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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
May 29 2013 00:37 GMT
#121
On May 29 2013 09:35 govie wrote:
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On May 29 2013 09:33 teddyoojo wrote:
time for demuslim to get owned


hmm.. xy and demuslim dont really have many tvt's in hots yet. Agilugac says 60 demu/40 XY but both didnt have topterrans in there results tho.

demuslim almost lost to maker before lol
Esports historian since 2000. Creator of 'The Universe' and 'The best scrambled Eggs 2013'. Host of 'Star Wars Marathon 2015'. Thinker of 'teddyoojo's Thoughts'. Earths and Moons leading CS:GO expert. Lord of the Rings.
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12032 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 00:39:23
May 29 2013 00:38 GMT
#122
On May 29 2013 09:27 ZenithM wrote:
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On May 29 2013 09:20 Qikz wrote:
I wouldn't use game 2 as a game to say mech doesn't work, if you actually watch that game back you'll see theognis' positioning was very questionable and in some instances he had his army either too split or too clumped which allowed state to engage in the perfect places to either not take maximum damage or pick it off from one side (zerg can do this too).

He was trading really well against the heavy robo comp, but where he had so many bad engagements he eventually got ran over.

The thing is, State wasn't playing that well either. What you essentially said is that if Theognis had been playing far better than he can, against already quite a low-tier opponent, he could have won with mech :D

Flash can probably beat State with Reaper-Viking, that doesn't make that composition a viable way to play TvP :/


It may not be fully viable, but if people can show that it can sort of work at the pro level maybe work nearly to the state of being viable if we're going to use that word against Toss, maybe Blizzard will buff it. If people just ignore it completely and say it's not possible, Blizzard will look and say that needs too much work.

Theognis wasn't playing the best he could have and he certainly could have played better that game.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 29 2013 00:38 GMT
#123
On May 29 2013 09:35 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 09:33 teddyoojo wrote:
time for demuslim to get owned


hmm.. xy and demuslim dont really have many tvt's in hots yet. Agilugac says 60 demu/40 XY but both didnt have topterrans in there results tho.

Demuslim looked pretty shaky in his first round match against Maker but he said he didnt sleep the night before and was really nervous. Hopefully he has that all under control this time. As for XY, the only TvT I've seen from him was in the qualifiers versus Center, where he held his own for a while but couldn't keep up. If Demuslim plays like he did in round 1 he'll lose. If he plays like he does on stream it should be a really good match.
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Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 29 2013 00:38 GMT
#124
a ladder warrior woah, that will be how i will call myself if someone says i am playing too much sc2! :D
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-29 00:41:50
May 29 2013 00:38 GMT
#125
Dang Demuslim almost perfectly coinflip. Now its time to shine... so throw your hands up in the skyyyy!

Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 29 2013 00:39 GMT
#126
Go XY!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
May 29 2013 00:39 GMT
#127
On May 29 2013 09:34 Undead1993 wrote:
never thought one could make it happen but i am finally annoyed of this NYC stuff >.<


I like the live shots outside of the office. It got really dark really fast over there.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
SCST
Profile Joined November 2011
Mexico1609 Posts
May 29 2013 00:40 GMT
#128
If DeMuslim can play up to his normal level he should be fine against XY. That's just the problem though . . . last time he played WCS he almost lost to Maker, a guy who he is like 25-0 against on ladder. Pretty sure he's the HerO of foreigners when it comes to nerves. I hope he can overcome!
"The weak cannot forgive. Forgiveness is an attribute of the strong." - Gandhi
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 29 2013 00:42 GMT
#129
Where do people know XY from? Is he famous in SC2 or from some other game?
I don't know him at all :'(
.maLice.
Profile Joined December 2011
United States174 Posts
May 29 2013 00:44 GMT
#130
On May 29 2013 09:42 ZenithM wrote:
Where do people know XY from? Is he famous in SC2 or from some other game?
I don't know him at all :'(


It's just because he's chinese and they don't really get a lot of exposure.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
May 29 2013 00:45 GMT
#131
So sloppy banshee defense. I'm disappointed
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
May 29 2013 00:46 GMT
#132
I love Banshee play it makes games so intense sometimes!
Sein
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1811 Posts
May 29 2013 00:47 GMT
#133
Nooooo DeMuslim, don't go Bio on this map!!
Undead1993
Profile Joined January 2012
Germany17651 Posts
May 29 2013 00:48 GMT
#134
On May 29 2013 09:44 .maLice. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 09:42 ZenithM wrote:
Where do people know XY from? Is he famous in SC2 or from some other game?
I don't know him at all :'(


It's just because he's chinese and they don't really get a lot of exposure.

another point is that everyone is looking forward to have none american players in the season 3 premier league am! <3
SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO SEKO
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
May 29 2013 00:51 GMT
#135
XY is pretty good
So happy to see some of his matches cast.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
May 29 2013 00:51 GMT
#136
XY showing him some of that Chinese technology. (though I've seen this in both EU and KR)
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ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 29 2013 00:51 GMT
#137
On May 29 2013 09:48 Undead1993 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 09:44 .maLice. wrote:
On May 29 2013 09:42 ZenithM wrote:
Where do people know XY from? Is he famous in SC2 or from some other game?
I don't know him at all :'(


It's just because he's chinese and they don't really get a lot of exposure.

another point is that everyone is looking forward to have none american players in the season 3 premier league am! <3

Oh yeah that's right, we wouldn't want to have Demuslim the american player up there :D
Toadvine
Profile Joined November 2010
Poland2234 Posts
May 29 2013 00:51 GMT
#138
On May 29 2013 09:34 Bagi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 29 2013 09:27 Toadvine wrote:
On May 29 2013 09:20 Bagi wrote:
Really sucks to watch games like that because it's obvious that mech has the potential to be viable if Blizzard only wanted it to be.

Instead the meta is doomed to be "maek marine" and run them in circles. TvP was one of the most boring match-ups in WOL and the only thing that changed is that you have the MSC and occasionally some hellbats to tank. It's getting old.


Well, from a Protoss perspective, HotS added more all-ins, and made the thing that causes us to play so passively (medivacs) even better at doing so. I doubt it's going to change.

I agree and its quite baffling to me how far they went with their buffs to bio.

But I would imagine even protoss players agree I think mech could make the match-up way more interesting. Protoss could actually play the aggressive part with blink and warp prisms. Even skytoss is a viable way to play against mech. The whole mech TvP meta is nearly unexplored because Blizzard disencourages it by refusing to give the siege tank its long overdue buff.


Hey, I really like playing against mech, it's like the only time as a Protoss in sc2 where you can actually spread your army around the map and not have it all get owned piecemeal. And you actually get to expand aggressively and harass, tons of fun. I am totally in favor of a Tank buff, although with free Siege, I think it could introduce some very nasty bio/tank all-ins. That 2 base bio/tank push Mvp does in TvP looks quite strong with current tanks.
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DeathProfessor
Profile Joined March 2012
United States1052 Posts
May 29 2013 00:51 GMT
#139
XX/XY

Demuslim 'Felt The Magic' there
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
May 29 2013 00:52 GMT
#140
On May 29 2013 09:51 Badfatpanda wrote:
XY is pretty good
So happy to see some of his matches cast.

He's also supposed to be one of the Chinese players pretty high up on the Korean ladder right? Top 50 or something?
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