EPTWell, personally I rarely get Archons specifically, mostly just recycle energy-less Templar. Seems like just making them straight up is a good choice against mech.
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
Well, personally I rarely get Archons specifically, mostly just recycle energy-less Templar. Seems like just making them straight up is a good choice against mech. | ||
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Qikz
United Kingdom12025 Posts
He was trading really well against the heavy robo comp, but where he had so many bad engagements he eventually got ran over. | ||
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
Instead the meta is doomed to be "maek marine" and run them in circles. TvP was one of the most boring match-ups in WOL and the only thing that changed is that you have the MSC and occasionally some hellbats to tank. It's getting old. | ||
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larse
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 29 2013 09:18 Toadvine wrote: Well, personally I rarely get Archons specifically, mostly just recycle energy-less Templar. Seems like just making them straight up is a good choice against mech. Oh yeah, I see what you mean, you're right. I still don't get why people go mech in TvP. The good units in Theognis composition are hellbats, vikings and ghosts, which you make in bio TvP anyway. Tanks on the other hand suck ass. The only reason you would make them is to hold positions and stuff, but they don't even do that, Protoss has enough muscle to crush a sieged army cost efficiently. Bio. Still the way to go. :D | ||
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edgeOut
United States945 Posts
Glad Major won, too bad he will play Violet next, he probably has no chance there. | ||
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Apoptotic
United States137 Posts
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Zarahtra
Iceland4053 Posts
On May 29 2013 09:23 ZenithM wrote: Oh yeah, I see what you mean, you're right. I still don't get why people go mech in TvP. The good units in Theognis composition are hellbats, vikings and ghosts, which you make in bio TvP anyway. Tanks on the other hand suck ass. The only reason you would make them is to hold positions and stuff, but they don't even do that, Protoss has enough muscle to crush a sieged army cost efficiently. Bio. Still the way to go. :D It is very good as timing attacks or if the 3rd isn't so defensive. If you can get into an econ lead and just keep trading hellbats for toss gas(since zlots get raped if archons/storms dont massacre the hellbats), they eventually break. | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On May 29 2013 09:20 Qikz wrote: I wouldn't use game 2 as a game to say mech doesn't work, if you actually watch that game back you'll see theognis' positioning was very questionable and in some instances he had his army either too split or too clumped which allowed state to engage in the perfect places to either not take maximum damage or pick it off from one side (zerg can do this too). He was trading really well against the heavy robo comp, but where he had so many bad engagements he eventually got ran over. The thing is, State wasn't playing that well either. What you essentially said is that if Theognis had been playing far better than he can, against already quite a low-tier opponent, he could have won with mech :D Flash can probably beat State with Reaper-Viking, that doesn't make that composition a viable way to play TvP :/ | ||
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Toadvine
Poland2234 Posts
On May 29 2013 09:20 Bagi wrote: Really sucks to watch games like that because it's obvious that mech has the potential to be viable if Blizzard only wanted it to be. Instead the meta is doomed to be "maek marine" and run them in circles. TvP was one of the most boring match-ups in WOL and the only thing that changed is that you have the MSC and occasionally some hellbats to tank. It's getting old. Well, from a Protoss perspective, HotS added more all-ins, and made the thing that causes us to play so passively (medivacs) even better at doing so. I doubt it's going to change. | ||
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KelsierSC
United Kingdom10443 Posts
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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LimeNade
United States2125 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On May 29 2013 09:27 Toadvine wrote: Well, from a Protoss perspective, HotS added more all-ins, and made the thing that causes us to play so passively (medivacs) even better at doing so. I doubt it's going to change. I agree and its quite baffling to me how far they went with their buffs to bio. But I would imagine even protoss players agree I think mech could make the match-up way more interesting. Protoss could actually play the aggressive part with blink and warp prisms. Even skytoss is a viable way to play against mech. The whole mech TvP meta is nearly unexplored because Blizzard disencourages it by refusing to give the siege tank its long overdue buff. | ||
Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On May 29 2013 09:33 LimeNade wrote: Challenger league is still real time/live cast right? I just tuned in for my first CL match for WCS NA Yes. It's live but the games are played online rather than at the studio. | ||
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Undead1993
Germany17651 Posts
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govie
9334 Posts
On May 29 2013 09:33 teddyoojo wrote: time for demuslim to get owned hmm.. xy and demuslim dont really have many tvt's in hots yet. Agilugac says 60 demu/40 XY but both didnt have topterrans in there results tho. | ||
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
Gogo Demuslim. | ||
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