EPT[WCS EU] RO32 Group G Premier Season 1 2013 - Page 20
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Benjamin99
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Mouzone
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Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:02 Abominous wrote: Just came in, how was Stephano vs KrasS? Some good games, game one is definately worth checking out | ||
KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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Boucot
France15997 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:02 Mouzone wrote: I missed Grubby vs. Babyknight, how close was it? Grubby learned that Colossi are not good against Tempests. =/ | ||
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Abominous
Croatia1625 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:03 Heartland wrote: Some good games, game one is definately worth checking out Thanks. | ||
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KristofferAG
Norway25712 Posts
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:01 Markwerf wrote: Tempests are only a bit better than corruptors actually. 2 corruptors cost the exact same as 1 tempest and do pretty much the same DPS (if you're using corrupt which is easy on colossi). HP is also quite similar, though tempests are obviously better once the colossi have died. Tempests take a long time to make though and have a heavier investment cost, Grubby should have exploited that by using his range colossi earlier and/or expanding faster. Hm well you safe to robo bay cost, but yeah Grubby could've played better and I am not saying having Tempests is a free wins vs Colossi or something, but I don't think your statement that it doesn't work is true either. I just think it can work, just as corruptors can work or maybe even better. Edit: Also you can force fights, which is nice I think. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:01 Markwerf wrote: Tempests are only a bit better than corruptors actually. 2 corruptors cost the exact same as 1 tempest and do pretty much the same DPS (if you're using corrupt which is easy on colossi). HP is also quite similar, though tempests are obviously better once the colossi have died. Tempests take a long time to make though and have a heavier investment cost, Grubby should have exploited that by using his range colossi earlier and/or expanding faster. True but a main difference is that Tempest has a siege advantage over Corruptor. And they can still siege even though you pull those Collosus. Unlike corruptor which you have to rush them in to fight the Collosus and the toss player can target fire Corruptor and pull back Collosus. So they are more supply efficient. | ||
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On May 09 2013 02:54 VikingKong wrote: To be fair, part of the reason why they're not used ZvP is because holy SHIT are void rays good against Zerg. Don't really need tempests! And even the threat of Tempests basically removes the Broodlord as anything other than a very niche unit against Toss. They don't even need to build them, just their existence in the game means that BL ZvP is basically dead. I don't really see what makes void rays good in PvZ, can you explain that? I love when protosses make void rays against me, means they have less resources for units that are actually a threat. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
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clementdudu
France819 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:06 Zenbrez wrote: Stephano has gotten supply blocked 5 times already, lol larvae timings | ||
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Mouzone
3937 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:04 Boucot wrote: Grubby learned that Colossi are not good against Tempests. =/  Hope he can bounce back and grab two wins now. | ||
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FakeDeath
Malaysia6060 Posts
Stephano going the Roro build. Get ready guys for the long haul. | ||
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YoungTyTy
United States801 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:05 Zheryn wrote: I don't really see what makes void rays good in PvZ, can you explain that? I love when protosses make void rays against me, means they have less resources for units that are actually a threat. I don't know what makes them so good specifically but I've seen mass voidray win a few times already. For example, Stats defeated Soulkey in proleague very recently with it. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23570 Posts
yeah, supply management as zerg is not the same as as terran | ||
Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:07 FakeDeath wrote: Hohoho. Stephano going the Roro build. Get ready guys for the long haul. Are you talking about swarmhost viper hydra static def? (Cant watch atm) cause blade55555 and the ROOT zergs have been using and advocating that style for a while now | ||
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Zheryn
Sweden3653 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:08 YoungTyTy wrote: I don't know what makes them so good specifically but I've seen mass voidray win a few times already. For example, Stats defeated Soulkey in proleague very recently with it. Yeah but it's more the suprise factor they are good for, it's not like the unit void ray is better than other protoss units against the zerg if zerg scouts. Void rays are good against armored units, and zerg doesn't have that many armored units. | ||
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AlternativeEgo
Sweden17309 Posts
On May 09 2013 03:07 FakeDeath wrote: Hohoho. Stephano going the Roro build. Get ready guys for the long haul. I watched ROOT vs mouz. I'm ready for this. | ||
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McBengt
Sweden1684 Posts
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