Scarlett to the top right. State to the bottom left.
0:00 to 4:00
Gateway in base for State. Double gas for State. Zealot for State. Mothership Core and second zealot for State.
Hatch first for Scarlett. 4 queens for Scarlett.
Nexus for State. MSC and 2 zealots moving acros the map for state. 3 gates and a stargate for state.
Scarlett addes two evo chambers. 1-1 melee upgrades for Scarlett.
State pulls back, now pushing forward with some sentries and zealots with the MSC. Phoenix production for state.
State pushing into the third base of Scarlett. Scarlett finishes 1-1 and pushes into the army with lings. state recalls home. Scarlett starts 2-2.
Forge and twilight council for state. Phoenix fly in for State and kill 2 queens. Third base for state.
Ling runby to the third denied by forcefields. +1 and blink for State.
12:00 to 16:00.
Ling runby into the main of Scarlett forces recall. Scarlett snipes third with yet more lings.
Third base secured for Scarlett. 2-2 finishes for Scarlett. Infestation pit finishes for Scarlett. Hive done for Scarlett. Ultra cavern on the way for Scarlett. 3-3 on the way for Scarlett.
Colossi production and range for state. +2 attack for state. Third base for State. Additional run-by to the nat denied. Templar archives and charge completes for state.
16:00 to 20:00.
Scarlett finishes 3-3 for melee. Scarlet with a high ultralisk count. Runby of lings to the third of State killing probes. Ultralisks push the building fourth and snipe it off. Greater Spire for Scarlett.
+3 attack for State. Lots of Immortals, 4 colossi for state. Blink was apparently cancelled, now coming for State. +3 finishes, +1 armor for State. State pushes forward, but 10 broodlords morph for Scarlett.
20:00 to end.
Scarlett now pushing toward the fourth of State through the middle. State is extremely lacking on anti-broodlord. Scarlett pushing forward with infestors, broodlords, and ultralisks.
State engages Scarlett in the middle. Scarlett takes a huge advantage in the fight. State army is vanishing.
State GGs! Scarlett wins game 1. State vs. Scarlett Game 2 Scarlett versus State. Set 1.
Game 2. Scarlett leads the series 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige.
Scarlett spawns to the top left State spawns to the bottom right.
0:00 to 4:00.
Pool first for Scarlett. Scarlett sends first 2 lings across map, and next to kill the pylons.
Forge first for State. Pylon block by State. Block at the third as well. Nexus starts for State.
4:00 to 8:00
2 lings of Scarlett enter the main of State. Natural and third for Scarlett. Lings still alive in State's main.
Warpgate for State. Stargate started for State. 2 additional gasses for State. Robo for State. Phoenix production begins for state.
2 gasses for Scarlett. Ling speed starts for Scarlett.
8:00 to 12:00.
2 evo chambers for Scarlett. 1-1 for ranged units for Scarlett. Hydra den for Scarlett.
Robotics bay for State. Phoenix fly into the main for State, but Scarlett is prepared. Colossi range for State. Cancels a +1 weapons upgrade. Mothership core for state.
Hydra speed started for Scarlett. 2-2 ranged for Scarlett.
State moving across the map with a colossus push. Scarlett snipes 2 phoenixes.
12:00 to end.
State pushing toward the third of Scarlett with 2 ranged colossi. Forcefields and time warp restricting Scarlett. Spells dissipate and Scarlett has large concave. Scarlett pushing through the colossus force. State's last colossus falls.
State GGs! Scarlett advances to the Winners Match 2-0. State vs. Scarlett Game 3
Violet spawns to the bottom left Oz spawns to the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Oz pylon on low ground. Forge first for Oz.
Pool first for Violet.
Oz pylon blocks natural and third. Nexus for Oz. 2 gasses for Oz.
Violet finally takes his two hatches.
4:00 to 8:00.
Cyber core for Oz. Scouting probe taken out by Violet.
2 gasses for Violet.
Stargate for Oz. Mothership Core for Oz. Warpgate for Oz. Phoenix production for Oz.
+1 armor for Violet's ground.
8:00 to 12:00.
Void ray started for Oz. Third base started for Oz.
Roach speed completes for Violet. Violet moving out with large ling-roach force.
Violet attacking into the third base. Oz decides he doesn't need forces and loses several sentries and immortals. Rally from Oz allows him to hold.
12:00 to 16:00
Attack is repulsed by Oz.
Spire starts for Violet. 4th base for Violet. 13 mutas and +1 air weapons for Violet. +1 melee ups for Violet. Violet flies into the nat of Oz with mutalisks killing probes. Violet kills a bunch of stalkers in the main. Overcharge forced by Oz.
Oz engaging Violet's mutalisks. Triple stargate now for Oz. +1 ground armor for Oz.
16:00 to 20:00.
Phoenix kill some mutas and pull back. Mutas fly into the third base and kills a cannon and a few probes. Oz traps the mutalisks and kills a few, but loses some phoenix. Oz continuing triple phoenix production. +2 air weapons for Violet. Ling runby to the third of Oz denied.
Phoenix engagement against corrupters and mutalisks of Violet. Ling counterattack to the third base kills it. Ground army of Oz kills the fourth base. Spine wall on top of Violet's third. Mutalisks kill all the colossi before the phoenix arrive. Oz is repulsed. New fourth for violet in the bottom right.
20:00 to 24:00
Oz attacking the new base of Violet with his ground army.
Muta-ling corrupter engages the only stalkers of Oz. Phoenix way out of position and the ground army dies. He kills the fourth but loses his ground force.
Oz GGs! Violet takes game 1. viOLet vs. Oz Game 2 viOLet versus Oz. Set 2.
Game 2. Violet leads the series 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige.
Violet spawns to the bottom right Oz spawns to the top left
0:00 to 4:00.
Oz with pylon on low ground. Forge first by Oz.
Pool first by Violet.
Pylon block by Oz at both natural and third. Nexus started for Oz. Probe dies for Oz but replaces pylon at the third. 2 hatchs for Violet
4:00 to 8:00
Cyber core for Oz. 2 gasses for Oz. Stargate for Oz. Gasses 3 and 4 for Oz. Mothership core for Oz.
2 gasses for Violet.
Phoenix production begin for Oz.
Evo chamber and roach warren for Violet. Spores for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00
+1 ground armor for Violet. Lair done for Violet. Hydra den for Violet.
Robo and +1 attack for Oz. Phoenix scout the hydra den, kill a drone or 2.
Ling speed and Hydra speed for Violet.
Robotics BAY! (not colossus den Schamtoo) for Oz. Third base for Oz.
Hydra production for Violet. Hydra-ling moving out for Violet. Attacks straight into the natural. Violet snipes the forge making +1 armor.
12:00 to 16:00
Violet now pushing the third and killing some probes. Spire done for Violet. Bunch of mutas and +1 air weapons for Violet.
Second stargate for Oz. Void ray production for Oz.
Mutalisks fly into the main of Oz forcing a pull. Bunch of probes fall for Oz. Hydra ling push to the third shut down by colossi.
Violet pushing into the natural of Oz. Oz goes for a counterattack.
Both players lose their natural. Oz attempting to turtle at his third base with cannons. Main army of Oz moves into Violet's main. Mutalisks fly back to Violet's main base. Phoenix are horribly out of position. Ground AA of Oz is dying as well as colossi. Phoenix finally rejoin the fight but the muta count is huge.
The rest of Violet's force terrorizes the main of Oz.
(My stream crashes)
Oz GGs! Violet advances to face Scarlett in the Winners match 2-0. Oz will play in the Losers Match versus State. viOLet vs. Oz Game 3
Scarlett spawns in top right. Violet to the bottom left.
0:00 to 4:00.
Pool first for Violet. Hatch for Violet. Gas for Violet.
Hatch first for Scarlett. Pool for Scarlett. Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00.
Violet with 2 lings kills 1 of the 2 lings of Scarlett.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett.
Baneling nest for Violet. Ling speed for Violet.
Lair for Scarlett. 1 more gas for Scarlett.
Roach warren and 2 more gas for Violet.
Spire starts for Scarlett.
10 roaches for Violet. Roaches move out along with more lings in production.
8:00 to 12:00.
Violet moving across the map and morphing banelings. A ton of spines for Scarlett.
Violet pushing in before the spines finish. Scarlett's banelings die. Violet breaks through the spines before they finish.
Violet moves into Scarlett's main. Drones of Scarlet being obliterated. Mutas pop for Scarlett. Almost no drones for Scarlett. More lings in Scarlett's natural.
Scarlett GGs! Violet leads 1-0. Winners' Match Game 2 viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match.
Game 2, Violet leads 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige. (NOT BEACH)
Violet spawns in the bottom right. Scarlett spawns in the top left.
0:00 to 4:00.
Violet pool first. Hatch for Violet. Gas for Violet.
Hatch first for Scarlett. Pool for Scarlett. Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00.
Ling speed for Violet. Baneling nest for Violet.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett.
Scarlett kills an overlord of Violet with queens.
Lair for Scarlett. 3 more gas for Scarlett.
Lair for Violet. 3 more gas for Violet.
Scarlett catches 2 morphing banelings of Violet.
Spire for Scarlett. Third for Scarlett.
Spire for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00.
Violet starts a third base. Violet starts +1 air armor but cant start mutas.
Scarlett starts 7 mutas and +1 air armor.
Scarlett holds at her natural from a ling runby with good baneling hits. Scarlett runs into the third of Violet killing the gas drones. Scarlett avoids a muta engagement from Violet.
Scarlett runs back into Violet's third and kills more gas drones. Scarlett's mutas kill a queen in the main. Scarlett starts +1 attack.
Violet starts +1 attack.
12:00 to end.
Scarlett taking total control of the game. Scarlett up quite a bit of supply. Scarlett moving her mutas into the natural of Violet.
Violet GGs! Scarlett ties the series at 1! Winners' Match Game 3 viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match
Game 3. Series is tied 1-1. Map is Daybreak.
Violet spawns in the bottom left Scarlett spawns in the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Hatch first (15) for Violet. Gas next for violet. Pool for Violet.
16 hatch for Scarlett. Pool next for Scarlett Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00
Ling speed for Violet. Baneling nest for Violet Later Lair and 3 more gas for Scarlett.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett. Lair and 2 more gas for Scarlett. 4th gas for Scarlett.
Ling baneling push by Violet killing a couple of drones.
Scarlett counters with her own ling-bane killing an identical 3 workers.
Spire for Scarlett.
Spire for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00.
Third for Violet. Slight drone lead for Violet. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for Violet.
Later third for Scarlett. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for scarlett.
Violet snipes a mutalisk for free from Scarlett.
Scarlett attempts a fruitless runby at the third base.
Violet moving into the third base with mutas and ling-bane. Violet sends his lings to the natural, but Scarlett defends. Scarlett loses 1 drone in the natural. Slight muta engagement but no significant losses.
More Violet lings in the main of Scarlett now killing workers.
12:00 to 16:00
Violet runby into the natural. Violet up almost 20 drones.
Violet contaminates Scarlett's +1 air weapons. Scarlett now only has a 20 second advantage.
Violet ling runby into the natural again. Scarlett mutas forced to pull back while Violet finishes +1 weapons.
16:00 to end.
Scarlett now pushing across the map with her mutalisks. Violet meets her in his natural for an engagement. Queens providing extra DPS for Violet. Scarlett losing the battle.
Losers' Match Game 2 Oz versus State. Loser's Match
Game 2. Oz leads 1-0. Map is Whirlwind.
12:00- State sneaks some DTs into Oz's main and natural, snipes a few probos and manages to snipe the Pylon powering both of Oz's Robos.
Oz remaining on Robo tech and throws down a third Nexus around 13 minutes. Phoenixes return to poke and kills quite a few Probes at the natural. Oz sends his Phoenixes over to the main where he gravitons a few Templar. Nice snipes from Oz there.
Both players on 3 bases vs three, and similar supplies. Oz throwing down his Templar archives around the 15 minute mark but continues double Collosus production.
16:15- State attempts a bit of a recon poke with his stalkers, loses a few to Collosus lazers but blinks them back to safety. Both players posturing a bit, Oz moves out to the watchtower in the middle.
17:30- Oz researching +3 attack, State currently researching +2 and +3 armour. Oz has no armour or shield upgrades.
18:00- Big engagement! Oz comes out second-best against the heavy chargelot + upgrade army of State. Oz attempts a chargelot runby to buy time but State goes forth and into Oz's base. Oz ggs out.
Game 2, State ties it up! Losers' Match Game 3
Final Match Game 1 Final Match Game 2 Final Match Game 3
Tough group (aka: 2 koreans) ....I think she can beat Oz, but it will be close. Her ZvP has never been her strong suit. Violet too we've hardly seen him in HotS but if he's anywhere near his level in WoL, he's probably the favourite to top this group.
The only question is: who will assume LR kpop duties with our resident kpop expert out doing battle??
Sucks that I won't be able to watch this live anymore since I'll be at work. How long does it usually take them to get VODs up? At least East coast viewers will be OK...maybe? Are they also moving the other WCS leagues to accommodate other regions or is this an MLG decision?
kind cool how far Scarlett has come. She just narrowly lost to Oz in her debut, now she's (arguably) favored to go against him now. Its pretty cool imo
Scarlett to the top right. State to the bottom left.
0:00 to 4:00
Gateway in base for State. Double gas for State. Zealot for State. Mothership Core and second zealot for State.
Hatch first for Scarlett. 4 queens for Scarlett.
Nexus for State. MSC and 2 zealots moving acros the map for state. 3 gates and a stargate for state.
Scarlett addes two evo chambers. 1-1 melee upgrades for Scarlett.
State pulls back, now pushing forward with some sentries and zealots with the MSC. Phoenix production for state.
State pushing into the third base of Scarlett. Scarlett finishes 1-1 and pushes into the army with lings. state recalls home. Scarlett starts 2-2.
Forge and twilight council for state. Phoenix fly in for State and kill 2 queens. Third base for state.
Ling runby to the third denied by forcefields. +1 and blink for State.
12:00 to 16:00.
Ling runby into the main of Scarlett forces recall. Scarlett snipes third with yet more lings.
Third base secured for Scarlett. 2-2 finishes for Scarlett. Infestation pit finishes for Scarlett. Hive done for Scarlett. Ultra cavern on the way for Scarlett. 3-3 on the way for Scarlett.
Colossi production and range for state. +2 attack for state. Third base for State. Additional run-by to the nat denied. Templar archives and charge completes for state.
Ling+Infestor into Ultras. Scarlett being really active with her Lings, delaying the Protoss third for quite a bit and maintaining map control as she gets her Ultras up. The creep spread is pretty good too, but that's pretty much expected from her.
Scarlett to the top right. State to the bottom left.
0:00 to 4:00
Gateway in base for State. Double gas for State. Zealot for State. Mothership Core and second zealot for State.
Hatch first for Scarlett. 4 queens for Scarlett.
Nexus for State. MSC and 2 zealots moving acros the map for state. 3 gates and a stargate for state.
Scarlett addes two evo chambers. 1-1 melee upgrades for Scarlett.
State pulls back, now pushing forward with some sentries and zealots with the MSC. Phoenix production for state.
State pushing into the third base of Scarlett. Scarlett finishes 1-1 and pushes into the army with lings. state recalls home. Scarlett starts 2-2.
Forge and twilight council for state. Phoenix fly in for State and kill 2 queens. Third base for state.
Ling runby to the third denied by forcefields. +1 and blink for State.
12:00 to 16:00.
Ling runby into the main of Scarlett forces recall. Scarlett snipes third with yet more lings.
Third base secured for Scarlett. 2-2 finishes for Scarlett. Infestation pit finishes for Scarlett. Hive done for Scarlett. Ultra cavern on the way for Scarlett. 3-3 on the way for Scarlett.
Colossi production and range for state. +2 attack for state. Third base for State. Additional run-by to the nat denied. Templar archives and charge completes for state.
16:00 to 20:00.
Scarlett finishes 3-3 for melee. Scarlet with a high ultralisk count. Runby of lings to the third of State killing probes. Ultralisks push the building fourth and snipe it off. Greater Spire for Scarlett.
+3 attack for State. Lots of Immortals, 4 colossi for state. Blink was apparently cancelled, now coming for State. +3 finishes, +1 armor for State. State pushes forward, but 10 broodlords morph for Scarlett.
Scarlett to the top right. State to the bottom left.
0:00 to 4:00
Gateway in base for State. Double gas for State. Zealot for State. Mothership Core and second zealot for State.
Hatch first for Scarlett. 4 queens for Scarlett.
Nexus for State. MSC and 2 zealots moving acros the map for state. 3 gates and a stargate for state.
Scarlett addes two evo chambers. 1-1 melee upgrades for Scarlett.
State pulls back, now pushing forward with some sentries and zealots with the MSC. Phoenix production for state.
State pushing into the third base of Scarlett. Scarlett finishes 1-1 and pushes into the army with lings. state recalls home. Scarlett starts 2-2.
Forge and twilight council for state. Phoenix fly in for State and kill 2 queens. Third base for state.
Ling runby to the third denied by forcefields. +1 and blink for State.
12:00 to 16:00.
Ling runby into the main of Scarlett forces recall. Scarlett snipes third with yet more lings.
Third base secured for Scarlett. 2-2 finishes for Scarlett. Infestation pit finishes for Scarlett. Hive done for Scarlett. Ultra cavern on the way for Scarlett. 3-3 on the way for Scarlett.
Colossi production and range for state. +2 attack for state. Third base for State. Additional run-by to the nat denied. Templar archives and charge completes for state.
16:00 to 20:00.
Scarlett finishes 3-3 for melee. Scarlet with a high ultralisk count. Runby of lings to the third of State killing probes. Ultralisks push the building fourth and snipe it off. Greater Spire for Scarlett.
+3 attack for State. Lots of Immortals, 4 colossi for state. Blink was apparently cancelled, now coming for State. +3 finishes, +1 armor for State. State pushes forward, but 10 broodlords morph for Scarlett.
20:00 to end.
Scarlett now pushing toward the fourth of State through the middle. State is extremely lacking on anti-broodlord. Scarlett pushing forward with infestors, broodlords, and ultralisks.
State engages Scarlett in the middle. Scarlett takes a huge advantage in the fight. State army is vanishing.
On May 08 2013 07:25 Toastmold wrote: I'm pretty sure Scarlett targeted a changling with broodlords to generate a bunch of broodlings from a safe distance.
I think it was an infested terran instead of a changeling but yeah that was clever
On May 08 2013 07:24 BakedButters wrote: Loving it. Love the way zergs are changing the metagame against Protoss constantly
ahhahaha but i think it's tosses fault here not to do a 2 base timing i think 7 gates + blink and some sentries and teh game is over. the way zergs are playing is pretty greedy. and there is no chance for toss in lategame if he does not do anything to the economy of the zerg
On May 08 2013 07:32 KanoCoke wrote: Rob Simpson casting with Axslav?
What happened to Axeltoss?
I think I've heard that Axeltoss is taking a break from casting SC2 due to wrist pains.
Well that sucks.
Would be nice to have TotalBiscuit again as a 3rd caster.
I can't let you down like that, Axeltoss isn't in pain, just on vacation, that was joke because of the Scarlett thing that gets asked 35 times in every LR thread. In any case, he'll be away for a bit.
On May 08 2013 07:28 Wingblade wrote: Scarlett versus State. Set 1.
Game 2. Scarlett leads the series 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige.
Scarlett spawns to the top left State spawns to the bottom right.
0:00 to 4:00.
Pool first for Scarlett. Scarlett sends first 2 lings across map, and next to kill the pylons.
Forge first for State. Pylon block by State. Block at the third as well. Nexus starts for State.
4:00 to 8:00
2 lings of Scarlett enter the main of State. Natural and third for Scarlett. Lings still alive in State's main.
Warpgate for State. Stargate started for State. 2 additional gasses for State. Robo for State. Phoenix production begins for state.
2 gasses for Scarlett. Ling speed starts for Scarlett.
8:00 to 12:00.
2 evo chambers for Scarlett. 1-1 for ranged units for Scarlett. Hydra den for Scarlett.
Robotics bay for State. Phoenix fly into the main for State, but Scarlett is prepared. Colossi range for State. Cancels a +1 weapons upgrade. Mothership core for state.
Hydra speed started for Scarlett. 2-2 ranged for Scarlett.
State moving across the map with a colossus push. Scarlett snipes 2 phoenixes.
On May 08 2013 07:28 Wingblade wrote: Scarlett versus State. Set 1.
Game 2. Scarlett leads the series 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige.
Scarlett spawns to the top left State spawns to the bottom right.
0:00 to 4:00.
Pool first for Scarlett. Scarlett sends first 2 lings across map, and next to kill the pylons.
Forge first for State. Pylon block by State. Block at the third as well. Nexus starts for State.
4:00 to 8:00
2 lings of Scarlett enter the main of State. Natural and third for Scarlett. Lings still alive in State's main.
Warpgate for State. Stargate started for State. 2 additional gasses for State. Robo for State. Phoenix production begins for state.
2 gasses for Scarlett. Ling speed starts for Scarlett.
8:00 to 12:00.
2 evo chambers for Scarlett. 1-1 for ranged units for Scarlett. Hydra den for Scarlett.
Robotics bay for State. Phoenix fly into the main for State, but Scarlett is prepared. Colossi range for State. Cancels a +1 weapons upgrade. Mothership core for state.
Hydra speed started for Scarlett. 2-2 ranged for Scarlett.
State moving across the map with a colossus push. Scarlett snipes 2 phoenixes.
12:00 to end.
State pushing toward the third of Scarlett with 2 ranged colossi. Forcefields and time warp restricting Scarlett. Spells dissipate and Scarlett has large concave. Scarlett pushing through the colossus force. State's last colossus falls.
State GGs! Scarlett advances to the Winners Match 2-0.
Why does Scarlett have different names in the victory screen? First game was [123647]Scarlett and second [4MINUT]Scarlett (not exactly but something like that).
On May 08 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: Imagine if Scarlett was playing in Shoutcraft America :/ State qualified for it
i think we all know already that scarlett stomps NA see wcs na :>
It might even be more brutal this time. Didn't she actually drop a map last year?
Would be funny if she played the whole tournament like a Funday Monday, win one game with only infestors, next game proxy hatch rush, no ling/baneling speed allowed etc.
On May 08 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: Imagine if Scarlett was playing in Shoutcraft America :/ State qualified for it
Apparently she had an account in the top 10 but it wasnt a "qualified account" whatever that means....would have been easy money.
I think it was decided that barcodes couldnt play because that's what her account was. I think Illusion said he had a barcode up there, too.
On May 08 2013 07:44 teddyoojo wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: Imagine if Scarlett was playing in Shoutcraft America :/ State qualified for it
i think we all know already that scarlett stomps NA see wcs na :>
It might even be more brutal this time. Didn't she actually drop a map last year?
Would be funny if she played the whole tournament like a Funday Monday, win one game with only infestors, next game proxy hatch rush, no ling/baneling speed allowed etc.
Well, there are Koreans now, so that could prove to be fatal :p
On the other hand, YuGiOh already proved that you can still win games with infestors only.
On May 08 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: Imagine if Scarlett was playing in Shoutcraft America :/ State qualified for it
Apparently she had an account in the top 10 but it wasnt a "qualified account" whatever that means....would have been easy money.
I think it was decided that barcodes couldnt play because that's what her account was. I think Illusion said he had a barcode up there, too.
On May 08 2013 07:44 teddyoojo wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: Imagine if Scarlett was playing in Shoutcraft America :/ State qualified for it
i think we all know already that scarlett stomps NA see wcs na :>
It might even be more brutal this time. Didn't she actually drop a map last year?
Would be funny if she played the whole tournament like a Funday Monday, win one game with only infestors, next game proxy hatch rush, no ling/baneling speed allowed etc.
well, there are Koreans now, so that could prove to be fatal :p
On May 08 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: Imagine if Scarlett was playing in Shoutcraft America :/ State qualified for it
Apparently she had an account in the top 10 but it wasnt a "qualified account" whatever that means....would have been easy money.
I think it was decided that barcodes couldnt play because that's what her account was. I think Illusion said he had a barcode up there, too.
On May 08 2013 07:44 teddyoojo wrote:
On May 08 2013 07:42 Shellshock1122 wrote: Imagine if Scarlett was playing in Shoutcraft America :/ State qualified for it
i think we all know already that scarlett stomps NA see wcs na :>
It might even be more brutal this time. Didn't she actually drop a map last year?
Would be funny if she played the whole tournament like a Funday Monday, win one game with only infestors, next game proxy hatch rush, no ling/baneling speed allowed etc.
well, there are Koreans now, so that could prove to be fatal :p
I meant the Shoutcraft tourney.
oh, sorry
yeah, maybe next time, if she has recovered by then
that was really weird play by Oz... not using abilities combined with the fact that he spammed lift right at the end makes me wonder if he was alt-tabbed out or something by accident.
On May 08 2013 07:53 HeavenResign wrote: I didn't realize Cloud Kingdom was in the WCS map pool? I'm also surprised the current ladder pool hasn't affected the current WCS maps.
On May 08 2013 07:46 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Oz. Set 2.
Game 1 on Cloud Kingdom.
Violet spawns to the bottom left Oz spawns to the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Oz pylon on low ground. Forge first for Oz.
Pool first for Violet.
Oz pylon blocks natural and third. Nexus for Oz. 2 gasses for Oz.
Violet finally takes his two hatches.
4:00 to 8:00.
Cyber core for Oz. Scouting probe taken out by Violet.
2 gasses for Violet.
Stargate for Oz. Mothership Core for Oz. Warpgate for Oz. Phoenix production for Oz.
+1 armor for Violet's ground.
8:00 to 12:00.
Void ray started for Oz. Third base started for Oz.
Roach speed completes for Violet. Violet moving out with large ling-roach force.
Violet attacking into the third base. Oz decides he doesn't need forces and loses several sentries and immortals. Rally from Oz allows him to hold.
12:00 to 16:00
Attack is repulsed by Oz.
Spire starts for Violet. 4th base for Violet. 13 mutas and +1 air weapons for Violet. +1 melee ups for Violet. Violet flies into the nat of Oz with mutalisks killing probes. Violet kills a bunch of stalkers in the main. Overcharge forced by Oz.
Oz engaging Violet's mutalisks. Triple stargate now for Oz. +1 ground armor for Oz.
On May 08 2013 07:46 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Oz. Set 2.
Game 1 on Cloud Kingdom.
Violet spawns to the bottom left Oz spawns to the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Oz pylon on low ground. Forge first for Oz.
Pool first for Violet.
Oz pylon blocks natural and third. Nexus for Oz. 2 gasses for Oz.
Violet finally takes his two hatches.
4:00 to 8:00.
Cyber core for Oz. Scouting probe taken out by Violet.
2 gasses for Violet.
Stargate for Oz. Mothership Core for Oz. Warpgate for Oz. Phoenix production for Oz.
+1 armor for Violet's ground.
8:00 to 12:00.
Void ray started for Oz. Third base started for Oz.
Roach speed completes for Violet. Violet moving out with large ling-roach force.
Violet attacking into the third base. Oz decides he doesn't need forces and loses several sentries and immortals. Rally from Oz allows him to hold.
12:00 to 16:00
Attack is repulsed by Oz.
Spire starts for Violet. 4th base for Violet. 13 mutas and +1 air weapons for Violet. +1 melee ups for Violet. Violet flies into the nat of Oz with mutalisks killing probes. Violet kills a bunch of stalkers in the main. Overcharge forced by Oz.
Oz engaging Violet's mutalisks. Triple stargate now for Oz. +1 ground armor for Oz.
16:00 to 20:00.
Phoenix kill some mutas and pull back. Mutas fly into the third base and kills a cannon and a few probes. Oz traps the mutalisks and kills a few, but loses some phoenix. Oz continuing triple phoenix production. +2 air weapons for Violet. Ling runby to the third of Oz denied.
Phoenix engagement against corrupters and mutalisks of Violet. Ling counterattack to the third base kills it. Ground army of Oz kills the fourth base. Spine wall on top of Violet's third. Mutalisks kill all the colossi before the phoenix arrive. Oz is repulsed. New fourth for violet in the bottom right.
On May 08 2013 07:46 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Oz. Set 2.
Game 1 on Cloud Kingdom.
Violet spawns to the bottom left Oz spawns to the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Oz pylon on low ground. Forge first for Oz.
Pool first for Violet.
Oz pylon blocks natural and third. Nexus for Oz. 2 gasses for Oz.
Violet finally takes his two hatches.
4:00 to 8:00.
Cyber core for Oz. Scouting probe taken out by Violet.
2 gasses for Violet.
Stargate for Oz. Mothership Core for Oz. Warpgate for Oz. Phoenix production for Oz.
+1 armor for Violet's ground.
8:00 to 12:00.
Void ray started for Oz. Third base started for Oz.
Roach speed completes for Violet. Violet moving out with large ling-roach force.
Violet attacking into the third base. Oz decides he doesn't need forces and loses several sentries and immortals. Rally from Oz allows him to hold.
12:00 to 16:00
Attack is repulsed by Oz.
Spire starts for Violet. 4th base for Violet. 13 mutas and +1 air weapons for Violet. +1 melee ups for Violet. Violet flies into the nat of Oz with mutalisks killing probes. Violet kills a bunch of stalkers in the main. Overcharge forced by Oz.
Oz engaging Violet's mutalisks. Triple stargate now for Oz. +1 ground armor for Oz.
16:00 to 20:00.
Phoenix kill some mutas and pull back. Mutas fly into the third base and kills a cannon and a few probes. Oz traps the mutalisks and kills a few, but loses some phoenix. Oz continuing triple phoenix production. +2 air weapons for Violet. Ling runby to the third of Oz denied.
Phoenix engagement against corrupters and mutalisks of Violet. Ling counterattack to the third base kills it. Ground army of Oz kills the fourth base. Spine wall on top of Violet's third. Mutalisks kill all the colossi before the phoenix arrive. Oz is repulsed. New fourth for violet in the bottom right.
20:00 to 24:00
Oz attacking the new base of Violet with his ground army.
Muta-ling corrupter engages the only stalkers of Oz. Phoenix way out of position and the ground army dies. He kills the fourth but loses his ground force.
I just remembered Oz was the one who knocked out Scarlett during her breakthrough run at IPL way back. A rematch would be pretty cool to watch, especially considering how much Scarlett has improved since then.
On May 08 2013 08:05 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Oz. Set 2.
Game 2. Violet leads the series 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige.
Violet spawns to the bottom right Oz spawns to the top left
0:00 to 4:00.
Oz with pylon on low ground. Forge first by Oz.
Pool first by Violet.
Pylon block by Oz at both natural and third. Nexus started for Oz. Probe dies for Oz but replaces pylon at the third. 2 hatchs for Violet
4:00 to 8:00
Cyber core for Oz. 2 gasses for Oz. Stargate for Oz. Gasses 3 and 4 for Oz. Mothership core for Oz.
2 gasses for Violet.
Phoenix production begin for Oz.
Evo chamber and roach warren for Violet. Spores for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00
+1 ground armor for Violet. Lair done for Violet. Hydra den for Violet.
Robo and +1 attack for Oz. Phoenix scout the hydra den, kill a drone or 2.
Ling speed and Hydra speed for Violet.
Robotics BAY! (not colossus den Schamtoo) for Oz. Third base for Oz.
Hydra production for Violet. Hydra-ling moving out for Violet. Attacks straight into the natural. Violet snipes the forge making +1 armor.
12:00 to 16:00
Violet now pushing the third and killing some probes. Spire done for Violet. Bunch of mutas and +1 air weapons for Violet.
Second stargate for Oz. Void ray production for Oz.
Mutalisks fly into the main of Oz forcing a pull. Bunch of probes fall for Oz. Hydra ling push to the third shut down by colossi.
Violet pushing into the natural of Oz. Oz goes for a counterattack.
Both players lose their natural. Oz attempting to turtle at his third base with cannons. Main army of Oz moves into Violet's main. Mutalisks fly back to Violet's main base. Phoenix are horribly out of position. Ground AA of Oz is dying as well as colossi. Phoenix finally rejoin the fight but the muta count is huge.
The rest of Violet's force terrorizes the main of Oz.
(My stream crashes)
Oz GGs! Violet advances to face Scarlett in the Winners match 2-0. Oz will play in the Losers Match versus State.
On May 08 2013 08:19 Fig wrote: I have no idea why Oz didn't just proactively make phoenixes. They are the only way to beat mutas, which are a super common transition from hydras
Can you really outproduce the mutas? Even if you build phoenix, if the zerg just builds more mutas and a few corruptors, the phoenix dont even deal with the mutas all that well.
On May 08 2013 08:07 DeathProfessor wrote: Axslavs hair + beard combo makes him look like a Viking pilot with no visor with the helmet and chinstrap thing.
On May 08 2013 08:07 DeathProfessor wrote: Axslavs hair + beard combo makes him look like a Viking pilot with no visor with the helmet and chinstrap thing.
On May 08 2013 08:25 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match.
Game 1. Map is Neo Planet S.
Scarlett spawns in top right. Violet to the bottom left.
0:00 to 4:00.
Pool first for Violet. Hatch for Violet. Gas for Violet.
Hatch first for Scarlett. Pool for Scarlett. Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00.
Violet with 2 lings kills 1 of the 2 lings of Scarlett.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett.
Baneling nest for Violet. Ling speed for Violet.
Lair for Scarlett. 1 more gas for Scarlett.
Roach warren and 2 more gas for Violet.
Spire starts for Scarlett.
10 roaches for Violet. Roaches move out along with more lings in production.
8:00 to 12:00.
Violet moving across the map and morphing banelings. A ton of spines for Scarlett.
Violet pushing in before the spines finish. Scarlett's banelings die. Violet breaks through the spines before they finish.
Violet moves into Scarlett's main. Drones of Scarlet being obliterated. Mutas pop for Scarlett. Almost no drones for Scarlett. More lings in Scarlett's natural.
I think many zergs have gotten slightly complacent with ZvZ, expecting it to just be muta vs muta almost exclusively. A good reminder that solid timings still work just fine.
Zergs going muta don't try hard enough to scout all ins in the current meta imo. Its very difficult to hold without time to prepare as resources are banked for the muta's.
I don't really get why as even on ladder all ins are non-stop in ZvZ.
ZvZ has the potential to be cool, but as long as there is no real muta micro a la BW, it's basically going to be all about ramming your muta flock into your opponent's and hope you have more.
On May 08 2013 08:37 Wombat_NI wrote: ZvZ looks the worst HoTS matchup by a distance, I await to be convinced otherwise, hopefully some people will figure some cool stuff out.
It doesn't need much to be awesome again though. Just needs hydra, infestor to become viable and sometimes only a subtle change can allow this.
I have seen Stephano experimenting with a hydra queen build but not against elite zergs.
On May 08 2013 08:37 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match.
Game 2, Violet leads 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige. (NOT BEACH)
Violet spawns in the bottom right. Scarlett spawns in the top left.
0:00 to 4:00.
Violet pool first. Hatch for Violet. Gas for Violet.
Hatch first for Scarlett. Pool for Scarlett. Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00.
Ling speed for Violet. Baneling nest for Violet.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett.
Scarlett kills an overlord of Violet with queens.
Lair for Scarlett. 3 more gas for Scarlett.
Lair for Violet. 3 more gas for Violet.
Scarlett catches 2 morphing banelings of Violet.
Spire for Scarlett. Third for Scarlett.
Spire for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00.
Violet starts a third base. Violet starts +1 air armor but cant start mutas.
Scarlett starts 7 mutas and +1 air armor.
Scarlett holds at her natural from a ling runby with good baneling hits. Scarlett runs into the third of Violet killing the gas drones. Scarlett avoids a muta engagement from Violet.
Scarlett runs back into Violet's third and kills more gas drones. Scarlett's mutas kill a queen in the main. Scarlett starts +1 attack.
On May 08 2013 08:37 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match.
Game 2, Violet leads 1-0. Map is Bel'shir Vestige. (NOT BEACH)
Violet spawns in the bottom right. Scarlett spawns in the top left.
0:00 to 4:00.
Violet pool first. Hatch for Violet. Gas for Violet.
Hatch first for Scarlett. Pool for Scarlett. Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00.
Ling speed for Violet. Baneling nest for Violet.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett.
Scarlett kills an overlord of Violet with queens.
Lair for Scarlett. 3 more gas for Scarlett.
Lair for Violet. 3 more gas for Violet.
Scarlett catches 2 morphing banelings of Violet.
Spire for Scarlett. Third for Scarlett.
Spire for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00.
Violet starts a third base. Violet starts +1 air armor but cant start mutas.
Scarlett starts 7 mutas and +1 air armor.
Scarlett holds at her natural from a ling runby with good baneling hits. Scarlett runs into the third of Violet killing the gas drones. Scarlett avoids a muta engagement from Violet.
Scarlett runs back into Violet's third and kills more gas drones. Scarlett's mutas kill a queen in the main. Scarlett starts +1 attack.
Violet starts +1 attack.
12:00 to end.
Scarlett taking total control of the game. Scarlett up quite a bit of supply. Scarlett moving her mutas into the natural of Violet.
On May 08 2013 08:51 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match
Game 3. Series is tied 1-1. Map is Daybreak.
Violet spawns in the bottom left Scarlett spawns in the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Hatch first (15) for Violet. Gas next for violet. Pool for Violet.
16 hatch for Scarlett. Pool next for Scarlett Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00
Ling speed for Violet. Baneling nest for Violet Later Lair and 3 more gas for Scarlett.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett. Lair and 2 more gas for Scarlett. 4th gas for Scarlett.
Ling baneling push by Violet killing a couple of drones.
Scarlett counters with her own ling-bane killing an identical 3 workers.
Spire for Scarlett.
Spire for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00.
Third for Violet. Slight drone lead for Violet. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for Violet.
Later third for Scarlett. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for scarlett.
Violet snipes a mutalisk for free from Scarlett.
Scarlett attempts a fruitless runby at the third base.
Violet moving into the third base with mutas and ling-bane. Violet sends his lings to the natural, but Scarlett defends. Scarlett loses 1 drone in the natural. Slight muta engagement but no significant losses.
More Violet lings in the main of Scarlett now killing workers.
On May 08 2013 08:51 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match
Game 3. Series is tied 1-1. Map is Daybreak.
Violet spawns in the bottom left Scarlett spawns in the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Hatch first (15) for Violet. Gas next for violet. Pool for Violet.
16 hatch for Scarlett. Pool next for Scarlett Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00
Ling speed for Violet. Baneling nest for Violet Later Lair and 3 more gas for Scarlett.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett. Lair and 2 more gas for Scarlett. 4th gas for Scarlett.
Ling baneling push by Violet killing a couple of drones.
Scarlett counters with her own ling-bane killing an identical 3 workers.
Spire for Scarlett.
Spire for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00.
Third for Violet. Slight drone lead for Violet. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for Violet.
Later third for Scarlett. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for scarlett.
Violet snipes a mutalisk for free from Scarlett.
Scarlett attempts a fruitless runby at the third base.
Violet moving into the third base with mutas and ling-bane. Violet sends his lings to the natural, but Scarlett defends. Scarlett loses 1 drone in the natural. Slight muta engagement but no significant losses.
More Violet lings in the main of Scarlett now killing workers.
12:00 to 16:00
Violet runby into the natural. Violet up almost 20 drones.
Violet contaminates Scarlett's +1 air weapons. Scarlett now only has a 20 second advantage.
Violet ling runby into the natural again. Scarlett mutas forced to pull back while Violet finishes +1 weapons.
On May 08 2013 08:51 Wingblade wrote: viOLet versus Scarlett. Winners Match
Game 3. Series is tied 1-1. Map is Daybreak.
Violet spawns in the bottom left Scarlett spawns in the top right
0:00 to 4:00
Hatch first (15) for Violet. Gas next for violet. Pool for Violet.
16 hatch for Scarlett. Pool next for Scarlett Gas for Scarlett.
4:00 to 8:00
Ling speed for Violet. Baneling nest for Violet Later Lair and 3 more gas for Scarlett.
Ling speed for Scarlett. Baneling nest for Scarlett. Lair and 2 more gas for Scarlett. 4th gas for Scarlett.
Ling baneling push by Violet killing a couple of drones.
Scarlett counters with her own ling-bane killing an identical 3 workers.
Spire for Scarlett.
Spire for Violet.
8:00 to 12:00.
Third for Violet. Slight drone lead for Violet. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for Violet.
Later third for Scarlett. Mutalisks and +1 air armor for scarlett.
Violet snipes a mutalisk for free from Scarlett.
Scarlett attempts a fruitless runby at the third base.
Violet moving into the third base with mutas and ling-bane. Violet sends his lings to the natural, but Scarlett defends. Scarlett loses 1 drone in the natural. Slight muta engagement but no significant losses.
More Violet lings in the main of Scarlett now killing workers.
12:00 to 16:00
Violet runby into the natural. Violet up almost 20 drones.
Violet contaminates Scarlett's +1 air weapons. Scarlett now only has a 20 second advantage.
Violet ling runby into the natural again. Scarlett mutas forced to pull back while Violet finishes +1 weapons.
16:00 to end.
Scarlett now pushing across the map with her mutalisks. Violet meets her in his natural for an engagement. Queens providing extra DPS for Violet. Scarlett losing the battle.
On May 08 2013 09:06 -_- wrote: I'm a big fan of State. I've thought he had potential since NASL SEASON 1. But if he cheeses out Oz, I'm going to be pissed T_T.
Scarlett will murder him. Oz v Scarlet could be a classic.
On May 08 2013 09:06 -_- wrote: I'm a big fan of State. I've thought he had potential since NASL SEASON 1. But if he cheeses out Oz, I'm going to be pissed T_T.
Scarlett will murder him. Oz v Scarlet could be a classic.
I seriously dont think State has any realistic chance of beating OZ
On May 08 2013 09:06 -_- wrote: I'm a big fan of State. I've thought he had potential since NASL SEASON 1. But if he cheeses out Oz, I'm going to be pissed T_T.
Scarlett will murder him. Oz v Scarlet could be a classic.
I seriously dont think State has any realistic chance of beating OZ
I didn't think Hellokitty had a realistic chance of beating Heart either.
Not a boring game at all I would say. Very smart play by viOLet, his initial attack was slightly better and that contaminate really sealed the game. The muta vs muta fight was just a formality, the game was over before they engaged. WP!
Also Aligulac stats seem to say Oz vs Scarlett should be about even. The big difference in chance for 2nd game comes from 20% chance for Oz to lose to State, that contributed ~15% to Scarlett 2nd and takes away ~15% from Oz chance to get 2nd.
On May 08 2013 09:06 -_- wrote: I'm a big fan of State. I've thought he had potential since NASL SEASON 1. But if he cheeses out Oz, I'm going to be pissed T_T.
Scarlett will murder him. Oz v Scarlet could be a classic.
Did State play in NASL Season 1?
He didn't! You're right! I was misremembering IPL Season 2. He played Void Ray Archon against Goody's Mech and lost. But he adapted well.
6:40- State's Nexus finishes, Oz has had his up for longer.
Oz has a Stargate up, his second Stargate is scouted by State's Hallucinated Phoenix. State going Robo with a twlight finishing up shortly.
8:20- Blink started for State upon completion of his Twilight. Oz poking with his phoenixes and baits a Photon overcharge.
9:20- State throws down a double Forge, shortly after Oz starts his Robo. 1-1 started @ 10:20. Dark Shrine also down with Charge started @10:40. Chargelot timing incoming?
11:13- Oz's Robotics Bay completes, researching +1 and throwing down another Robo.
12:00- State sneaks some DTs into Oz's main and natural, snipes a few probos and manages to snipe the Pylon powering both of Oz's Robos.
Oz remaining on Robo tech and throws down a third Nexus around 13 minutes. Phoenixes return to poke and kills quite a few Probes at the natural. Oz sends his Phoenixes over to the main where he gravitons a few Templar. Nice snipes from Oz there.
Both players on 3 bases vs three, and similar supplies. Oz throwing down his Templar archives around the 15 minute mark but continues double Collosus production.
16:15- State attempts a bit of a recon poke with his stalkers, loses a few to Collosus lazers but blinks them back to safety. Both players posturing a bit, Oz moves out to the watchtower in the middle.
17:30- Oz researching +3 attack, State currently researching +2 and +3 armour. Oz has no armour or shield upgrades.
18:00- Big engagement! Oz comes out second-best against the heavy chargelot + upgrade army of State. Oz attempts a chargelot runby to buy time but State goes forth and into Oz's base. Oz ggs out.
On May 08 2013 09:37 stuchiu wrote: Yes, that's the quality of PvP I've come to expect from Oz.
I remember him as PvP God. Has he fallen off?
Around january of 2012, he went on record saying "PvP is all skill. Anybody who thinks it's luck can play me and I will prove them wrong."
He then went on to have literally a sub20% win rate for the next six months. It's mostly improved now; he's won some decent PvP's, but it was probably the most hilariously mistimed statement in SC2 history
On May 08 2013 09:37 stuchiu wrote: Yes, that's the quality of PvP I've come to expect from Oz.
I remember him as PvP God. Has he fallen off?
"PvP is pure skill. Pure micro. If anyone thinks they can win using luck, I will play you and I will beat you." - FXOz
Sadly it seems in this game if you show a positive mentality towards a matchup, you will start doing terribly and have people make fun of you for the next year.
Oz is now a ward of the State and must now do community service for the crime of being beaten by a Murican. There are many port-a-potties in Korea to clean now Oz!
That was really smart play by State, honestly. Not making a DT at his base with his first warpin would have cost him the game, and he still decided it was worth it to send another DT after one was shut down. That, plus his engagement (with a really risky I thought aggressive blink) was what won him the game. Yes Oz messed up, but State definitely played well.
On May 08 2013 09:37 stuchiu wrote: Yes, that's the quality of PvP I've come to expect from Oz.
I remember him as PvP God. Has he fallen off?
"PvP is pure skill. Pure micro. If anyone thinks they can win using luck, I will play you and I will beat you." - FXOz
Sadly it seems in this game if you show a positive mentality towards a matchup, you will start doing terribly and have people make fun of you for the next year.
I believe it is more general than just this game. If you talk the talk but can't walk the walk, everyone is going to make fun of you (or just ignore you if you're low enough on the game's hierarchy, which was not Oz's case)
On May 08 2013 09:37 stuchiu wrote: Yes, that's the quality of PvP I've come to expect from Oz.
I remember him as PvP God. Has he fallen off?
"PvP is pure skill. Pure micro. If anyone thinks they can win using luck, I will play you and I will beat you." - FXOz
Sadly it seems in this game if you show a positive mentality towards a matchup, you will start doing terribly and have people make fun of you for the next year.
I believe it is more general than just this game. If you talk the talk but can't walk the walk, everyone is going to make fun of you (or just ignore you if you're low enough on the game's hierarchy, which was not Oz's case)
For the record oz was 'walking the walk' at the time in question. But yeah, he's gloriously inconsistent lol, hopefully he can come up through Challengers, he did qualify pretty impressively after all
On May 08 2013 09:37 stuchiu wrote: Yes, that's the quality of PvP I've come to expect from Oz.
I remember him as PvP God. Has he fallen off?
"PvP is pure skill. Pure micro. If anyone thinks they can win using luck, I will play you and I will beat you." - FXOz
Sadly it seems in this game if you show a positive mentality towards a matchup, you will start doing terribly and have people make fun of you for the next year.
I believe it is more general than just this game. If you talk the talk but can't walk the walk, everyone is going to make fun of you (or just ignore you if you're low enough on the game's hierarchy, which was not Oz's case)
For the record oz was 'walking the walk' at the time in question. But yeah, he's gloriously inconsistent lol, hopefully he can come up through Challengers, he did qualify pretty impressively after all
I wasn't making fun of Oz. I thought he was amazing. I still like him, and he was the kind of guy you WANTED to do well. He made PvP exciting. It was just extremely ironic? (not sure if that's the perfect word...) that he slumped the same time as that statement.
If anyone of you missed the start of the show: Scarlett and Oz made a bet that Scarlett would get a third of Oz anime collection if she would beat him. Sadly that match got denied.
I really respect Scarlett as a player, but I find her style pretty boring to watch. That said, she plays well, and she should do whatever works for her.
On May 08 2013 10:10 Sub40APM wrote: did anyone doubt scarlet wouldnt destroy state? he's like an order of magnitude weaker than she is.
Well, he's also a teamless college student who IIRC is basically playing part-time. The fact that he beat Oz (who lives in a teamhouse, and gets coaching from Park) is already impressive
On May 08 2013 10:15 [OGN]Remmy wrote: MLG has 10 mins delay as usual. Not surprised.
You speak like that's a bad thing.... 10 minute delay is fine.
I agree. It's online, less than 10 minutes delay would makes it too easy to streamcheat, wheras 10 minutes old informations are most of the time useless...
Did he just say something like "Scarlett running away her lings, tail between the lags...welll there is no tail... but where a tail should be between the legs...." no offense could be my bad english, i almost cracked up, pretty sure that was what I heard but I mean it with no offense against scarlett, just thought it would be funnyi n a awkward way / Freud's error) (I know that the scarlett transgender topic is treated with big respect here, so i really don't want to be harsh or something, just wanted to know if i heard it right)
I just turned on the stream and wow, that was such a bad timing to attack the swarmhosts!! I mean cmon, he saw them right before he moved in, so why suicide half your army to kill 5 of them or something ><
On May 08 2013 10:30 Rollora wrote: Did he just say something like "Scarlett running away her lings, tail between the lags...welll there is no tail... but where a tail should be between the legs...." no offense could be my bad english, i almost cracked up, pretty sure that was what I heard but I mean it with no offense against scarlett, just thought it would be funnyi n a awkward way / Freud's error) (I know that the scarlett transgender topic is treated with big respect here, so i really don't want to be harsh or something, just wanted to know if i heard it right)
"Running away with one's tail between their legs" is a common idiom that means "running away in shame", don't think it was influenced at all by Scarlett's gender.
On May 08 2013 10:30 AlternativeEgo wrote: Need stormuuuu
Seriously, he needs air + storm + cannon. Stalker/colo is kinda pointless.
tempest maybe? I dunno protoss vs Zerg too well, so I guess it would have been a better choice than sending Blinkstalker and Colossi out to die again and again
On May 08 2013 10:30 Rollora wrote: Did he just say something like "Scarlett running away her lings, tail between the lags...welll there is no tail... but where a tail should be between the legs...." no offense could be my bad english, i almost cracked up, pretty sure that was what I heard but I mean it with no offense against scarlett, just thought it would be funnyi n a awkward way / Freud's error) (I know that the scarlett transgender topic is treated with big respect here, so i really don't want to be harsh or something, just wanted to know if i heard it right)
replace scarlett with hydra. And he said a hydra doesn't have legs
I don't understand why state only had like 2 colossi at a time, vs that many swarmhost and having 4 bases secured he should have had templar/colossi and then add in voids or even just pure colossi/templar will beat it. Really silly play by state that game mass gateway units +2 colossi well never kill that army.
On May 08 2013 10:33 Swords wrote: This feels vaguely like watching Broodlord Infestor, only a slower version of it.
I do think State is responding to this poorly though.
Yeah, really need some air to at least zone out vipers or preferably HT, and eventually storm. His timings to try to get on top of the swarmhosts and kill them were VERY bad in both games. They were literally as the locusts were spawning...and he saw this every time.
On May 08 2013 10:30 Rollora wrote: Did he just say something like "Scarlett running away her lings, tail between the lags...welll there is no tail... but where a tail should be between the legs...." no offense could be my bad english, i almost cracked up, pretty sure that was what I heard but I mean it with no offense against scarlett, just thought it would be funnyi n a awkward way / Freud's error) (I know that the scarlett transgender topic is treated with big respect here, so i really don't want to be harsh or something, just wanted to know if i heard it right)
"Running away with one's tail between their legs" is a common idiom that means "running away in shame", don't think it was influenced at all by Scarlett's gender.
Yeah he's right. Nothing to do with gender. Also he was talking about hydras running with tail between legs but a hydra doesn't have legs was what he said. nothing to even do with Scarlett
On May 08 2013 10:34 Whatson wrote: How do you fight that? Lots of templar/air transition?
Queens own everything air. Even if you get some feedbacks off, it's hard to have enough gas to have a meaningful army. If you can't get lucky with a base trade scenario before they end up with a lot of swarm hosts, I don't know if there's anything you can do as long as queens provide invincibility.
On May 08 2013 10:33 Swords wrote: This feels vaguely like watching Broodlord Infestor, only a slower version of it.
Not at all.
Broodlord Infestor is frustrating because you can almost never do anything.
This game is frustrating because there are a ton more things that you can do, and State isn't doing them.
Eh, games that get to a state where one player is massing one unit + static defense are usually pretty boring, even if you can beat it. I don't enjoy watching Thorzain camp on ghost/viking anymore either.
Anyway, congrats to Scarlett and props to State for beating Oz. The two best players advanced today, so we shouldn't complain.
Sucks that State lost, but he did have a pretty good showing today, upsetting Oz. 6 Zergs advanced today in WCS KR, EU and AM. This day truly belongs to the swarm
On May 08 2013 10:30 Rollora wrote: Did he just say something like "Scarlett running away her lings, tail between the lags...welll there is no tail... but where a tail should be between the legs...." no offense could be my bad english, i almost cracked up, pretty sure that was what I heard but I mean it with no offense against scarlett, just thought it would be funnyi n a awkward way / Freud's error) (I know that the scarlett transgender topic is treated with big respect here, so i really don't want to be harsh or something, just wanted to know if i heard it right)
"Running away with one's tail between their legs" is a common idiom that means "running away in shame", don't think it was influenced at all by Scarlett's gender.
Thx for declaration. Well i was aware about "Running away with one's tail between their legs", and I would never assume he meant it in an offensive way against scarlett (neither did i, as stated), but i found it kinda funny how he corrected himself with something like "well where the tail shoulda be" or "...normally is", which then made it really worse then better... if you know what I mean. Ofc he didn't think of harming Scarlett, more like correcting himself and making it worse then better or so. The special situation about her, makes this mistake hilarious, especially because it wasn't meant in an offensive way and we could then take it as a joke. It wouldn't work if he meant to be mean to her, but as a mistake he didn't want to make and didn't want to be offensive it's kinda funny. If you know what I mean (sry 4 bad english)
On May 08 2013 10:38 Bagration wrote: Sucks that State lost, but he did have a pretty good showing today, upsetting Oz. 6 Zergs advanced today in WCS KR, EU and AM. This day truly belongs to the swarm
Well... Look at the opponents for all the days games. If anyone thought a different outcome, they were kidding themselves.
On May 08 2013 10:35 NEOtheONE wrote: And this is why you go Skytoss vs Zerg.
ssort of..
When she hit 25 SH, ur fucked no matter if u go skytoss. Its baserace at that point, multiharras baserace. I saw Soulkey in code S, did similar against Protos semi skytoss and still won. 100 spores and 100 spines+100% SH+viper.. is death. Gotta take the engagement sooner or multiharras everywhere (no skytoss). The later u engage with whatever composition, the less chance u have.
the problem of SH-build is that is sux in defending at multiple places at once and is weaker when not enough static defense is present.
On May 08 2013 10:30 Rollora wrote: Did he just say something like "Scarlett running away her lings, tail between the lags...welll there is no tail... but where a tail should be between the legs...." no offense could be my bad english, i almost cracked up, pretty sure that was what I heard but I mean it with no offense against scarlett, just thought it would be funnyi n a awkward way / Freud's error) (I know that the scarlett transgender topic is treated with big respect here, so i really don't want to be harsh or something, just wanted to know if i heard it right)
"Running away with one's tail between their legs" is a common idiom that means "running away in shame", don't think it was influenced at all by Scarlett's gender.
Thx for declaration. Well i was aware about "Running away with one's tail between their legs", and I would never assume he meant it in an offensive way against scarlett (neither did i, as stated), but i found it kinda funny how he corrected himself with something like "well where the tail shoulda be" or "...normally is", which then made it really worse then better... if you know what I mean. Ofc he didn't think of harming Scarlett, more like correcting himself and making it worse then better or so. The special situation about her, makes this mistake hilarious, especially because it wasn't meant in an offensive way and we could then take it as a joke. It wouldn't work if he meant to be mean to her, but as a mistake he didn't want to make and didn't want to be offensive it's kinda funny. If you know what I mean (sry 4 bad english)
On May 08 2013 10:30 Rollora wrote: Did he just say something like "Scarlett running away her lings, tail between the lags...welll there is no tail... but where a tail should be between the legs...." no offense could be my bad english, i almost cracked up, pretty sure that was what I heard but I mean it with no offense against scarlett, just thought it would be funnyi n a awkward way / Freud's error) (I know that the scarlett transgender topic is treated with big respect here, so i really don't want to be harsh or something, just wanted to know if i heard it right)
"Running away with one's tail between their legs" is a common idiom that means "running away in shame", don't think it was influenced at all by Scarlett's gender.
Thx for declaration. Well i was aware about "Running away with one's tail between their legs", and I would never assume he meant it in an offensive way against scarlett (neither did i, as stated), but i found it kinda funny how he corrected himself with something like "well where the tail shoulda be" or "...normally is", which then made it really worse then better... if you know what I mean. Ofc he didn't think of harming Scarlett, more like correcting himself and making it worse then better or so. The special situation about her, makes this mistake hilarious, especially because it wasn't meant in an offensive way and we could then take it as a joke. It wouldn't work if he meant to be mean to her, but as a mistake he didn't want to make and didn't want to be offensive it's kinda funny. If you know what I mean (sry 4 bad english)
wasn't he talking about the hydras?
oh. Shame on me then. Thought he meant Scarlett or Scarlett's army. Because State cought a lot of Zerglings and they were trying go get out/run away, so i thought he meant the Zerglings/Army of Scarlett so... i thought he meant Scarlett, not her Hydralisks. But then again, i could have misheard, bc of my not so perfect understanding of the english language
On May 08 2013 10:35 NEOtheONE wrote: And this is why you go Skytoss vs Zerg.
ssort of..
When she hit 25 SH, ur fucked no matter if u go skytoss. Its baserace at that point, multiharras baserace. I saw Soulkey in code S, did similar against Protos semi skytoss and still won. 100 spores and 100 spines+100% SH+viper.. is death. Gotta take the engagement sooner or multiharras everywhere (no skytoss). The later u engage with whatever composition, the less chance u have.
the problem of SH-build is that is sux in defending at multiple places at once and is weaker when not enough static defense is present.
Eh, Flying lost that game only because he messed up. He needed a few more tempests and not to get all of his HTs killed for free, and he would win.
On May 08 2013 10:35 NEOtheONE wrote: And this is why you go Skytoss vs Zerg.
ssort of..
When she hit 25 SH, ur fucked no matter if u go skytoss. Its baserace at that point, multiharras baserace. I saw Soulkey in code S, did similar against Protos semi skytoss and still won. 100 spores and 100 spines+100% SH+viper.. is death. Gotta take the engagement sooner or multiharras everywhere (no skytoss). The later u engage with whatever composition, the less chance u have.
the problem of SH-build is that is sux in defending at multiple places at once and is weaker when not enough static defense is present.
Eh, Flying lost that game only because he messed up. He needed a few more tempests and not to get all of his HTs killed for free, and he would win.
man, tempest is NOT the way to deal with that strat....
On May 08 2013 10:35 NEOtheONE wrote: And this is why you go Skytoss vs Zerg.
ssort of..
When she hit 25 SH, ur fucked no matter if u go skytoss. Its baserace at that point, multiharras baserace. I saw Soulkey in code S, did similar against Protos semi skytoss and still won. 100 spores and 100 spines+100% SH+viper.. is death. Gotta take the engagement sooner or multiharras everywhere (no skytoss). The later u engage with whatever composition, the less chance u have.
the problem of SH-build is that is sux in defending at multiple places at once and is weaker when not enough static defense is present.
Eh, Flying lost that game only because he messed up. He needed a few more tempests and not to get all of his HTs killed for free, and he would win.
Could be, but i had the feeling he had no chance at all after soulkey had setup and could have gg-ed 15 minutes sooner
Does anyone else have major slowness trying to watch twitch TV's past broadcasts for WCS? I had to just give up watching and check the results because it was so frustrating. I was trying to watch at 240p and it was STILL too slow to watch in a constant stream. Extremely frustrating considering they just moved the start time of WCS NA to a time when it seems like a lot of NA is still working and can't actually watch.
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