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MOD NOTE: The bracket on Liquipedia is not final and should be assumed to be speculative. If you are a competitor, trust what MLG Admins tell you over the bracket.
Terranist
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2496 Posts
April 21 2013 20:53 GMT
#3541
mario will be able to confirm there was no infrastructure to even begin tempest production it will be unfair either way
The Show of a Lifetime
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 21 2013 20:53 GMT
#3542
On April 22 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
I'm not usually a fan of "if you allow this it's easy to angle in the future", but this is really a case for it. If I get my army caught and lose it completely, what's to stop me from saying I had some sort of technical issue and ask for a rewind?

Another major drawback with online tournaments unfortunately. If it was an "offline" tournament then I can see a case to allow this. As it is I think Nony should get the win, it sets a bad precedence otherwise.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Ender985
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain910 Posts
April 21 2013 20:53 GMT
#3543
I think a regame is the way to go. Keyboard breaking is nobody's fault, and it results in an unfair game (as seen in the last battle xD), which nobody wants.
Member of the Pirate Party - direct democracy, institutional transparency, and freedom of information
Teoita
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Italy12246 Posts
April 21 2013 20:53 GMT
#3544
If he had problems he should have said it the instant the keyboard got broken, not after he lost his maxed mech army. Wtf.
ModeratorProtoss all-ins are like a wok. You can throw whatever you want in there and it will turn out alright.
Bommes
Profile Joined June 2010
Germany1226 Posts
April 21 2013 20:53 GMT
#3545
If they allow regames in online tournaments it allows just for all sorts of cheating and it's just a matter of time until it would happen. Let's face it, the resume from replay in a tournament situation is never viable in an online environment, unless one competitor disconnects and they resume from the exact same spot they were interrupted. No way in a million years rollbacks of games in an online environment can happen ever as far as I'm concerned.

Really sucks for Mario, I would have loved to see him win to be honest. Not my favourite Mech TvP games ever, but seeing Mech is definitely refreshing nonetheless.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45925 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 20:55:05
April 21 2013 20:53 GMT
#3546
I'm looking at the four different tiers of the losers bracket, and the first tier (the one with Revival, DeMusliM, Jaedong, Zenio, Center, etc.) looks sooo much tougher than the second tier (the one with Comm and Miya). Jesus x.x

(Reference: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2013_WCS_Season_1_America/Qualifier/Premier )
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
IshinShishi
Profile Joined April 2012
Japan6156 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 20:56:22
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3547
On April 22 2013 05:51 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:50 IshinShishi wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: If you were NonY, would you restart a few sec earlier or take the win?

take the win (83)
 
78%

restart (24)
 
22%

107 total votes

Your vote: If you were NonY, would you restart a few sec earlier or take the win?

(Vote): restart
(Vote): take the win


lol, the amount of pathetic is astounding.

Actually, "pathetic" means emotional, and your decision to label anyone "pathetic" is actually one of the more "pathetic" things one can do.

be slower bro, if you weren't so quick to the gun!

also, it's pathetic how you choose to ignore one of the most common meanings of the word just to use it later on on the same phrase.
So... what that make you? Good? You're not good. You just know how to hide, how to lie
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12461 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3548
On April 22 2013 05:53 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
I'm not usually a fan of "if you allow this it's easy to angle in the future", but this is really a case for it. If I get my army caught and lose it completely, what's to stop me from saying I had some sort of technical issue and ask for a rewind?


Admins can just check the replay if he was issuing any commands or not.


I can stop typing on my keyboard, doesn't mean it isn't working.
No will to live, no wish to die
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3549
On April 22 2013 05:52 arioch wrote:
Also.. why on earth have they cut from the commentary team here - this is awesome juicy stuff that they should be discussing in detail and analysing... This is where they should be earning their money!


This!

MLG depresses me..
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
iotiX
Profile Joined August 2010
United States13 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3550
On April 22 2013 05:52 Musicus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:50 Beakyboo wrote:
Trying to do a resume from replay would be such a mess this game. They'd both just be watching the whole replay up to starting the game at an arbitrary point... There's so many issues with that. Sucks for Mario, but the win has to just go to NonY.


You do not see the replay or game with recover, what is used in tournaments, it's different from resume from replay.


either player could still load up the replay on the downtime, no? since it's not played offline there's no one stopping them from doing so...
trias_e
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States520 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3551
On April 22 2013 05:53 JacobShock wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:49 trias_e wrote:
Am I the only one that doesn't get this? I've never in my life experienced a keyboard that just stops working and then starts working again a few seconds later.


unplug, plug it back in? happens


Yeah, fair enough I guess. I've never seen a keyboard that stops working and then works again when you unplug it/plug it back in either though. I guess it could be a USB port issue.
Inf-badguy
Profile Joined July 2003
Canada171 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3552
They have to give it to Tyler. Anything else is just a barrel of honey, and you're allergic to honey and it's full of acid too.
Empirimancer
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada1024 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3553
On April 22 2013 05:50 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:47 Empirimancer wrote:
Eh, I'm sorry for Mario but it's not Nony's fault his equipment sucks. Also he could have paused using the mouse. It's not very classy even asking for a resume from replay.


No one is blaming Nony.


What? Of course not, I'm blaming Mario.

hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3554
On April 22 2013 05:52 arioch wrote:
Also.. why on earth have they cut from the commentary team here - this is awesome juicy stuff that they should be discussing in detail and analysing... This is where they should be earning their money!

Just cutting away is weird... can you imagine in a football game when something crazy happens they just cut straight to adverts and carry on when its over as if nothing happened!


YES. I want to know what they are talking about too. This is potentially more interesting than the match wtf.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3555
On April 22 2013 05:53 Ysellian wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
I'm not usually a fan of "if you allow this it's easy to angle in the future", but this is really a case for it. If I get my army caught and lose it completely, what's to stop me from saying I had some sort of technical issue and ask for a rewind?


Admins can just check the replay if he was issuing any commands or not.

There won't be any commands if his keyboard stopped working. There also wouldn't be any commands if he simply kicked his feet up.

It's too bad, but this absolutely has to be a win for NonY.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
gedatsu
Profile Joined December 2011
1286 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3556
On April 22 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
I'm not usually a fan of "if you allow this it's easy to angle in the future", but this is really a case for it. If I get my army caught and lose it completely, what's to stop me from saying I had some sort of technical issue and ask for a rewind?

It's pretty easy to check in the replay that he stopped giving commands completely. A person who gets caught unaware and decides to fake heart attack will still have some reaction to the battle before he makes that decision. If Mario stopped entering commands before the battle happened, it's obvious that he's telling the truth.
Tppz!
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany1449 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3557
On April 22 2013 05:53 trias_e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
I'm not usually a fan of "if you allow this it's easy to angle in the future", but this is really a case for it. If I get my army caught and lose it completely, what's to stop me from saying I had some sort of technical issue and ask for a rewind?


100% agree. Especially in an online tournament where it's totally unconfirmable.


look into the replay and see that he his apm drops to 0?
didnt you guys look at the buildingscreen? he didnt do anything. he just got 5k mins and 3k gas and didnt click on any units. no way that was intended
Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7032 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3558
On April 22 2013 05:51 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:50 IshinShishi wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:48 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Poll: If you were NonY, would you restart a few sec earlier or take the win?

take the win (83)
 
78%

restart (24)
 
22%

107 total votes

Your vote: If you were NonY, would you restart a few sec earlier or take the win?

(Vote): restart
(Vote): take the win


lol, the amount of pathetic is astounding.

Actually, "pathetic" means emotional, and your decision to label anyone "pathetic" is actually one of the more "pathetic" things one can do.

+ Show Spoiler +


The word makes for evocative titles too. :p
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Zorgaz
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden2951 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3559
On April 22 2013 05:52 Zarahtra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:50 SiguR wrote:
Nony would've killed the army with an A-Move even if mario microd and was way ahead on upgrades.

Just sayin'.

That simply isn't true. I think Mario was fucked, but going up that ramp would've been a death sentence for nony.


Yeah i think if Mario was sieged he would take that battle, not sure though because of the upgrade deficit.
Furthermore, I think the Collosi should be removed! (Zorgaz -Terran/AbrA-Random/Zorg-Dota2) Guineapigs <3
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
April 21 2013 20:54 GMT
#3560
On April 22 2013 05:52 arioch wrote:
Also.. why on earth have they cut from the commentary team here - this is awesome juicy stuff that they should be discussing in detail and analysing... This is where they should be earning their money!

Just cutting away is weird... can you imagine in a football game when something crazy happens they just cut straight to adverts and carry on when its over as if nothing happened!


Because it's likely that whatever analysis the commentators make will not affect the official MLG decision? i.e. there is a possibility for them to call the game contrary to the decision made by admins/players which would create even more controversy for this event. ~_~
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