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Integra
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Sweden5626 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3581
On April 22 2013 05:55 LiLSighKoh wrote:
Why did PhysicsLee get a DQ against Hwangsin?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=408425
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Herro_Korea
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
310 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3582
It takes long, come on if there's no rules in rulebook on equipment and such and it now comes down to admin making decision out of thin air...
(-_(-_(-_-)_-)_-)
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3583
Wonder why so many people discuss this. Can always ask the admins if something happens, its up to them to decide. And this is to a lesser extend a non standard situation, so a decision will take a bit. Yesterday tons of complaints because players didn't opened their mouth to ask stuff. Today the other way round.

Should get a warning for it anyway though, but doubt mlg has a warning system for pauses.
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3584
On April 22 2013 05:54 govie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:52 arioch wrote:
Also.. why on earth have they cut from the commentary team here - this is awesome juicy stuff that they should be discussing in detail and analysing... This is where they should be earning their money!


This!

MLG depresses me..


All casts do their best to avoid drama or discuss a players feelings. If someone quits a tournament match without a gg, they'd still say "and there's the gg" and act like nothing ever happened; instead of discussing how mentally taxing a game of sc2 is and how much emotion goes into it. Would make things much more exciting for a random spectator.
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BronzeKnee
Profile Joined March 2011
United States5226 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 20:56:48
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3585
Listen, deciding this doesn't set a precedent. Issues should be decided on a case by case basis.

Nony didn't have any huge advantage, heck he just lost an expansion for nothing!

The admins should look to see when he wasn't issuing commands and restart the game from there.
govie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
9334 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3586
nony gg. i hoped mario but nony deserves it!
The two NBA teams in states with legal weed are called the Nuggets and the Blazers...
LiLSighKoh
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States588 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3587
On April 22 2013 05:55 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:55 LiLSighKoh wrote:
Why did PhysicsLee get a DQ against Hwangsin?

He's a known hacker...

Ahh I just wanted to confirm~ thanks ;p
"Want some? Go get some!"
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3588
i think we have to give nony the win. unfortunately for both players really but this is the obvious drawback to online qualifiers. it's not really fair to go back to replay either since then both players get full map vision and they can replay that scenario over and over.


really unfortunate situation but in the end I think you have to give it to nony to keep tournament moving.
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Chronos.
Profile Joined February 2012
United States805 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3589
Resume from replay confirmed in twitch chat. The question now is, from where?
nihlon
Profile Joined April 2010
Sweden5581 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3590
Don't really agree with it but props to Nony.
Banelings are too cute to blow up
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3591
If it was an offline match I would go for a resume. Since it is online, by the time they restart, both of them can analyze the replay to death and put themselves in an unfair situation. I know it sucks, but given the circumstances I think Nony should get the win here.
Ippo
Profile Joined November 2010
708 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3592
Oh the Irony.

Hey guys screw Xlord for not giving a restart of the game to Pandatank.
Hey guys you can't restart a online game, it's Marios own fault his stuff is not working. Nony won.

Sounds familiar?
Beyonder
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands15103 Posts
April 21 2013 20:56 GMT
#3593
On April 22 2013 05:56 BronzeKnee wrote:
Listen, deciding this doesn't set a precedent. It should be decided on a case by case basis.

Nony didn't have any huge advantage, heck he just lost an expansion for nothing!

The admins should look to see when he wasn't issuing commands and restart the game from there.

Totally agree.
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feanor1
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1899 Posts
April 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#3594
On April 22 2013 05:54 iotiX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:52 Musicus wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:50 Beakyboo wrote:
Trying to do a resume from replay would be such a mess this game. They'd both just be watching the whole replay up to starting the game at an arbitrary point... There's so many issues with that. Sucks for Mario, but the win has to just go to NonY.


You do not see the replay or game with recover, what is used in tournaments, it's different from resume from replay.


either player could still load up the replay on the downtime, no? since it's not played offline there's no one stopping them from doing so...

Doesn't it say watching a replay on the friends list thing? Or just bring them into a lobby right away while you decide
Zarahtra
Profile Joined May 2010
Iceland4053 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-21 20:58:11
April 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#3595
On April 22 2013 05:56 Chronos. wrote:
Resume from replay confirmed in twitch chat. The question now is, from where?

I'm guessing exactly when he loaded the first medivac then. there were 2 medivacs and he was surely about to load both of them and drop the 3rd to get out of the 4th with his siege tanks.

Edit: Still feel it shouldn't be a resume from replay, rooting for mario, but sometimes you just get fucked by RNG.
Loxley
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Netherlands2480 Posts
April 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#3596
Just checked it aswell:

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월요 날 재미있
hitpoint
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1511 Posts
April 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#3597
On April 22 2013 05:56 trias_e wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 22 2013 05:54 Tppz! wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:53 trias_e wrote:
On April 22 2013 05:51 Nebuchad wrote:
I'm not usually a fan of "if you allow this it's easy to angle in the future", but this is really a case for it. If I get my army caught and lose it completely, what's to stop me from saying I had some sort of technical issue and ask for a rewind?


100% agree. Especially in an online tournament where it's totally unconfirmable.


look into the replay and see that he his apm drops to 0?
didnt you guys look at the buildingscreen? he didnt do anything. he just got 5k mins and 3k gas and didnt click on any units. no way that was intended


Or, he realized he trapped his army in the top left, and intentionally stopped making actions to make it look realistic that his keyboard failed.


Except that he wasn't trapped and if his tanks were seiged Nony couldn't have even gone up the ramp. He was about to win the game right there imo.
It's spelled LOSE not LOOSE.
UberNuB
Profile Joined December 2010
United States365 Posts
April 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#3598
Remember when Losira's keyboard was messing up (pretty much all tournament) at times completely not working. He just wrecked kids anyways with just the mouse, ^^.

It takes 2 clicks to siege tanks...
the absence of evidence, is not the evidence of absence.
dani`
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands2402 Posts
April 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#3599
On April 22 2013 05:56 crms wrote:
i think we have to give nony the win. unfortunately for both players really but this is the obvious drawback to online qualifiers. it's not really fair to go back to replay either since then both players get full map vision and they can replay that scenario over and over.


really unfortunate situation but in the end I think you have to give it to nony to keep tournament moving.

It's been said before but 'Recover Game' just displays a loading bar, nobody sees anything and is put in their own vision once the replay has loaded. It's different from watching a replay then using Take Command.
blae000
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway1640 Posts
April 21 2013 20:57 GMT
#3600
There is no way picking up the game is fair in anyway, specially if the players watch the replay or w/e.. IMO, nony gets the win or a total remake are the only two options.. That's my thoughts on the matter at least..
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