So unless Soulkey does a giant do or die in the beginning he will lose horrible on this map against bio. Should do a proxy nydus -> built the network near flash and nydus into his main.

rj rl

648 Posts

April 18 2013 11:33 GMT

#1525

Lol no in Australia you slide up onto the roof

Assirra

Belgium4169 Posts

April 18 2013 11:33 GMT

#1526

On April 18 2013 20:31 tribulator wrote:

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I'm guessing you don't play the roach hydra viper style much... the vipers are a must. You don't push without the vipers, it's suicide, especially against a player who can actually macro. You cut corners to make sure you get the vipers.

Yea because Flash with his nonstop haress would let him cut corners. Soulkey would have died earlier trying to do that.

Shellshock

United States97276 Posts

April 18 2013 11:33 GMT

#1527

On April 18 2013 20:29 Shellshock1122 wrote:

WCS KR S1 2013 Code S Ro32
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Soulkey vs [image loading]

Flash
Game 2 (0-1)
Map: Whirlwind

0:00

Soulkey spawns in the bottom right

Flash spawns in the top right

2:00
hatch first for Soulkey
CC first on the high ground for Flash
gas for Soulkey
rax for Flash
Soulkey scouts the CC first with his overlord
gas for Flash
pool for Soulkey

3:00
ling speed for Soulkey

4:00
Factory for Flash
bunker at the natural ramp for Flash
Flash floating down his natural OC
reactor for Flash

5:00
3rd CC for Flash inside his main
3rd base for Soulkey
reactored hellion production for Flash

pmp10

3325 Posts

April 18 2013 11:33 GMT

#1528

Oh god.
Now OGN is starting 'let me ask you a question' segment.

Rorra

Australia1066 Posts

April 18 2013 11:33 GMT

#1529

Onlinejaguar

Australia2823 Posts

April 18 2013 11:33 GMT

#1530

ok no Tasteless, we dont drink fosters here.

Zinthar

United States394 Posts

April 18 2013 11:33 GMT

#1531

Well, I like that Soulkey decided to try something different -- kinda sad that Flash just made almost exactly the same composition as he otherwise would have (save for more marauders here) and rolled him anyway. I think that map would have been an excellent test of some swarm host play with modest roach/hydra support.

Also, it's really lame that you can get away with burrowing a ton of mines together right in front of the opponent and they'll trade cost efficiently unless each one is set off by a high-health overlord, overseer, or roach. I think it would make much more sense if the mines triggered as soon as the unit enters range, even if another adjacent mine has already triggered, or, in the alternative, if a mine could friendly fire other burrowed mines -- then you'd have to space them apart a bit or the opponent could run one fast unit in and trigger the whole field at once.

ramask2

Thailand1024 Posts

April 18 2013 11:34 GMT

#1532

Fosters is not a good beer...

opterown

Australia54784 Posts

April 18 2013 11:34 GMT

#1533

On April 18 2013 20:33 pmp10 wrote:
Oh god.
Now OGN is starting 'let me ask you a question' segment.

not much to talk about tbh

Crazyahmed

Canada280 Posts

April 18 2013 11:34 GMT

#1534

yep no one in australia drinks fosters

shineq

United Kingdom1453 Posts

April 18 2013 11:34 GMT

#1535

Fosters, haha.

NarutO

Germany18839 Posts

April 18 2013 11:34 GMT

#1536

It might be just me, but Flash is so aggressive that it might be a good idea to shut it down with a 'lower' (notice: not low) drone count and massive ling/baneling to at least deflect or decimate his initial engagements. His whole plan after being ahead in economy is to constantly trade because Terran can produce units while building economy and expand, Zerg cannot. If he can force a situation where Zerg has good economy but cannot increase it and has to constantly build units, Zerg will eventually fall behind.

If SoulKey could crush the initial (advantage-taking push) of Flash he could easily get into a situation that doesn't prevent Flash from expanding but allows him to do so. That would allow him to tech and hold his ground more easily. Obviously I'm well aware that ling/bane is a horror to play against bio mine, but mutalisks basically are dead-supply in the direct engagement (until before you hit a ton) because they usually would need to harass, which they cannot because Flash does pressure early.

In the fight they are basically dead supply and can only be used to clear mines, but in my mind you'd be better with 1500/1500 in ling/bane instead of mutas, as they will not shut down mediacs (due to boost) mostly anyways. My analysis of it.