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Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
April 12 2013 12:37 GMT
#1181
On April 12 2013 21:34 Foxxan wrote:
holy holy shit, life played!
Will they realease vods?????


You have to buy a ticket to see them.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
suicideyear
Profile Joined December 2012
Ivory Coast3016 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 12:38:07
April 12 2013 12:37 GMT
#1182
On April 12 2013 21:34 Foxxan wrote:
holy holy shit, life played!
Will they realease vods?????


yes? the VODs are already up on gomtv. use a ticket or that free coupon they gave out the other day.
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argie
Profile Joined July 2010
Croatia31 Posts
April 12 2013 12:43 GMT
#1183
On April 12 2013 21:23 massivez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 21:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:10 argie wrote:
I think Life is just so good because of the fact the doesn't play full Macro game. He does Macro ofc, but he is very aggressive. There is no sitting in base for 10min and waiting.

True Zerg - ATTACK! Harrassing, Poking, etc asap + "mini-strats" (kill the tech lab

Many zergs today play a Macro game (20-25min) and lose. Not much zergs are aggressive from the minute they can.

Anyway, Life just pushes zerg race to the max and it pays off. His skill is obv insane but even with that skill he would lose maybe to Skytoss if he didn't harass with Hydras whenever he could. He just never stays still and waits for the opponent to come to him.

GG and great GSTL day.

Being aggressive is good, playing just one style limits you and makes you very predictable and yes that's what makes Life so good.


Yeh, he's good at these different styles but alot off his agression doesn't seem that allinish to me. A good example is his 10 Pool against Flash wich did absolutely nothing, but he still transitioned into a nice macro style. Today the roach agression against Byun backed with a third going up. Also in his game against Creator where he was attacking the whole time, it still didn't stop him to get base after base.

It's a very tight line to walk, and probably the hardest part about playing Zerg. Because under/overcommiting in economy/agression can lose you any basic game.


I agree Life is not allin player. He will rather harass and kill workers or destroy some tech than go all in (except if opponent is on the knees because of mistakes - game 3). In game one he killed 70 workers. Or more, but count was 66 last time they showed.

Yeah, against Creator he didnt sit and waited for SkyDeathBall. He pushed with Hydras all the time trying to snipe even 1 void ray and deny fourth so gas becomes a problem over time.

As for Macro/Aggressive plays, yeah that is true. Very thin line.

But since it is impossible for us to see SC2 as Life (or any other ST or PRIME member) see it, we maybe must play more Macro oriented and be aggressive when we can. Depends on skill but even many GM play "safe".

Anyway, can't wait for 16th GSL. We will see if anyone found a "cure" for Life
Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
April 12 2013 12:53 GMT
#1184
i just bought membership now at gomtv for life lol
love his play
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8509 Posts
April 12 2013 12:56 GMT
#1185
On April 12 2013 21:43 argie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 21:23 massivez wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:10 argie wrote:
I think Life is just so good because of the fact the doesn't play full Macro game. He does Macro ofc, but he is very aggressive. There is no sitting in base for 10min and waiting.

True Zerg - ATTACK! Harrassing, Poking, etc asap + "mini-strats" (kill the tech lab

Many zergs today play a Macro game (20-25min) and lose. Not much zergs are aggressive from the minute they can.

Anyway, Life just pushes zerg race to the max and it pays off. His skill is obv insane but even with that skill he would lose maybe to Skytoss if he didn't harass with Hydras whenever he could. He just never stays still and waits for the opponent to come to him.

GG and great GSTL day.

Being aggressive is good, playing just one style limits you and makes you very predictable and yes that's what makes Life so good.


Yeh, he's good at these different styles but alot off his agression doesn't seem that allinish to me. A good example is his 10 Pool against Flash wich did absolutely nothing, but he still transitioned into a nice macro style. Today the roach agression against Byun backed with a third going up. Also in his game against Creator where he was attacking the whole time, it still didn't stop him to get base after base.

It's a very tight line to walk, and probably the hardest part about playing Zerg. Because under/overcommiting in economy/agression can lose you any basic game.


I agree Life is not allin player. He will rather harass and kill workers or destroy some tech than go all in (except if opponent is on the knees because of mistakes - game 3). In game one he killed 70 workers. Or more, but count was 66 last time they showed.

Yeah, against Creator he didnt sit and waited for SkyDeathBall. He pushed with Hydras all the time trying to snipe even 1 void ray and deny fourth so gas becomes a problem over time.

As for Macro/Aggressive plays, yeah that is true. Very thin line.

But since it is impossible for us to see SC2 as Life (or any other ST or PRIME member) see it, we maybe must play more Macro oriented and be aggressive when we can. Depends on skill but even many GM play "safe".

Anyway, can't wait for 16th GSL. We will see if anyone found a "cure" for Life


What did SC2 do to the term "macro game"? Since the invention of macro games 10 years ago harassment always was an important part of a macro game.
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3805 Posts
April 12 2013 12:59 GMT
#1186
On April 12 2013 21:56 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 21:43 argie wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:23 massivez wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:10 argie wrote:
I think Life is just so good because of the fact the doesn't play full Macro game. He does Macro ofc, but he is very aggressive. There is no sitting in base for 10min and waiting.

True Zerg - ATTACK! Harrassing, Poking, etc asap + "mini-strats" (kill the tech lab

Many zergs today play a Macro game (20-25min) and lose. Not much zergs are aggressive from the minute they can.

Anyway, Life just pushes zerg race to the max and it pays off. His skill is obv insane but even with that skill he would lose maybe to Skytoss if he didn't harass with Hydras whenever he could. He just never stays still and waits for the opponent to come to him.

GG and great GSTL day.

Being aggressive is good, playing just one style limits you and makes you very predictable and yes that's what makes Life so good.


Yeh, he's good at these different styles but alot off his agression doesn't seem that allinish to me. A good example is his 10 Pool against Flash wich did absolutely nothing, but he still transitioned into a nice macro style. Today the roach agression against Byun backed with a third going up. Also in his game against Creator where he was attacking the whole time, it still didn't stop him to get base after base.

It's a very tight line to walk, and probably the hardest part about playing Zerg. Because under/overcommiting in economy/agression can lose you any basic game.


I agree Life is not allin player. He will rather harass and kill workers or destroy some tech than go all in (except if opponent is on the knees because of mistakes - game 3). In game one he killed 70 workers. Or more, but count was 66 last time they showed.

Yeah, against Creator he didnt sit and waited for SkyDeathBall. He pushed with Hydras all the time trying to snipe even 1 void ray and deny fourth so gas becomes a problem over time.

As for Macro/Aggressive plays, yeah that is true. Very thin line.

But since it is impossible for us to see SC2 as Life (or any other ST or PRIME member) see it, we maybe must play more Macro oriented and be aggressive when we can. Depends on skill but even many GM play "safe".

Anyway, can't wait for 16th GSL. We will see if anyone found a "cure" for Life


What did SC2 do to the term "macro game"? Since the invention of macro games 10 years ago harassment always was an important part of a macro game.

Sadly, some people consider NR10, NR15 and NR20 "macro games"
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
mikedebo
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada4341 Posts
April 12 2013 13:01 GMT
#1187
Surprised they used byun as ace... I thought he had mega nerve problems.
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 12 2013 13:03 GMT
#1188
On April 12 2013 22:01 mikedebo wrote:
Surprised they used byun as ace... I thought he had mega nerve problems.

it's not like they had anyone else
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KanoCoke
Profile Joined June 2011
Japan863 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 13:10:52
April 12 2013 13:10 GMT
#1189
Go ZeNEX!

Bring me dem points!
Will always cheer for: MMA Bomber Taeja Curious Life herO Zest
bo1b
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
Australia12814 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 13:19:58
April 12 2013 13:18 GMT
#1190
I dont understand why life is portrayed as someone who does poorly in teamleagues. The last teamleague that zenex was in he performed so disgustingly well, all killing liquid and then getting like 3-4 kills against nsh. I guess if it was expected for him to put out a drg-esque performance (back when drg was unbeatable in gstl) then yes he has underperformed, but I just don't think hes had the opportunity to put it out yet.
Holdinga
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Bulgaria300 Posts
April 12 2013 13:45 GMT
#1191
Life is a rapist.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
April 12 2013 13:59 GMT
#1192
On April 12 2013 21:59 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 21:56 Miragee wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:43 argie wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:23 massivez wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:12 NovemberstOrm wrote:
On April 12 2013 21:10 argie wrote:
I think Life is just so good because of the fact the doesn't play full Macro game. He does Macro ofc, but he is very aggressive. There is no sitting in base for 10min and waiting.

True Zerg - ATTACK! Harrassing, Poking, etc asap + "mini-strats" (kill the tech lab

Many zergs today play a Macro game (20-25min) and lose. Not much zergs are aggressive from the minute they can.

Anyway, Life just pushes zerg race to the max and it pays off. His skill is obv insane but even with that skill he would lose maybe to Skytoss if he didn't harass with Hydras whenever he could. He just never stays still and waits for the opponent to come to him.

GG and great GSTL day.

Being aggressive is good, playing just one style limits you and makes you very predictable and yes that's what makes Life so good.


Yeh, he's good at these different styles but alot off his agression doesn't seem that allinish to me. A good example is his 10 Pool against Flash wich did absolutely nothing, but he still transitioned into a nice macro style. Today the roach agression against Byun backed with a third going up. Also in his game against Creator where he was attacking the whole time, it still didn't stop him to get base after base.

It's a very tight line to walk, and probably the hardest part about playing Zerg. Because under/overcommiting in economy/agression can lose you any basic game.


I agree Life is not allin player. He will rather harass and kill workers or destroy some tech than go all in (except if opponent is on the knees because of mistakes - game 3). In game one he killed 70 workers. Or more, but count was 66 last time they showed.

Yeah, against Creator he didnt sit and waited for SkyDeathBall. He pushed with Hydras all the time trying to snipe even 1 void ray and deny fourth so gas becomes a problem over time.

As for Macro/Aggressive plays, yeah that is true. Very thin line.

But since it is impossible for us to see SC2 as Life (or any other ST or PRIME member) see it, we maybe must play more Macro oriented and be aggressive when we can. Depends on skill but even many GM play "safe".

Anyway, can't wait for 16th GSL. We will see if anyone found a "cure" for Life


What did SC2 do to the term "macro game"? Since the invention of macro games 10 years ago harassment always was an important part of a macro game.

Sadly, some people consider NR10, NR15 and NR20 "macro games"


I did nothing but place mines in their base and then leaving. They'd say "NR20 man!" And I'd say "I'm not attacking" then they're like "I can't place my buildings" and I'm like "build outside your base then :p"
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
April 12 2013 14:09 GMT
#1193
Life just to good, Prime never had a chance :D
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 12 2013 14:12 GMT
#1194
Even though I kinda knew this would happen, it's weird that this happened. I keep waiting for Life to not be so good, it's kind of surreal.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
EpiK
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5757 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 14:45:50
April 12 2013 14:32 GMT
#1195
On April 12 2013 23:12 sparklyresidue wrote:
Even though I kinda knew this would happen, it's weird that this happened. I keep waiting for Life to not be so good, it's kind of surreal.

I know what you mean. DRG and leenock have caused me to be hesitant towards hopping on bandwagons because they both slumped rather abruptly after their dominant phases. I want to believe life is something more. We'll have to wait and see.
KingPaddy
Profile Joined November 2010
1053 Posts
April 12 2013 14:41 GMT
#1196
Ah well, losing to Life isn't too disappointing.
Byun and Maru look good so far, but MKP and Creator need to find their shape in HotS imo.
Ejohrik
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden219 Posts
April 12 2013 15:21 GMT
#1197
Today's result is a big reason why I don't like this all-kill format. One or two good players is enough to win a team-game. :/
Roman666
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland1440 Posts
April 12 2013 15:24 GMT
#1198
On April 13 2013 00:21 Ejohrik wrote:
Today's result is a big reason why I don't like this all-kill format. One or two good players is enough to win a team-game. :/

I don't like it either, but I doubt that the format change would change the today's result drastically.
sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5523 Posts
April 12 2013 15:27 GMT
#1199
On April 13 2013 00:24 Roman666 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 00:21 Ejohrik wrote:
Today's result is a big reason why I don't like this all-kill format. One or two good players is enough to win a team-game. :/

I don't like it either, but I doubt that the format change would change the today's result drastically.

I agree, and think it works better in a format like Proleague, where there are multiple rounds and one or two of them are all-kill format, but the rest are bo1.
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
April 12 2013 15:38 GMT
#1200
On April 13 2013 00:21 Ejohrik wrote:
Today's result is a big reason why I don't like this all-kill format. One or two good players is enough to win a team-game. :/


Even if Life would have lost, Startale had Bomber & Curious. Then they have Hack & Sound, and a bunch of other players in Code A. Startale's roster is one of the deepest in GSTL.
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