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On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP.
Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do.
Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base.
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Gah have to go teach right when we get to the fun part. Go ForGG!
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On April 08 2013 22:31 Badfatpanda wrote:
Gah have to go teach right when we get to the fun part. Go ForGG!
Give them a maths test and continue watching! ESPORTS
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On April 08 2013 22:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP. Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do. Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base.
At this point, he was behind. He tried something (wierd granted but it was something). I am not sure anyone know what Dayshi could have done at that point in the game.
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On April 08 2013 22:30 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:27 Otolia wrote:On April 08 2013 22:25 MCDayC wrote:
LOL they brought out Tod, jeeze thats shows millenium's lack of depth. Why ? ToD is still playing a lot. He is not Incontrol you know. Well I don't mean to bash ToD but goswer was still an option and they're gonna revive forGG I'd personally have considered goswer over ToD but I'm not too aware of their hots performances so this based off what I saw at the end of WoL.
Goswser played two times against Protoss recently in clan wars and lost both of them badly. It's unfortunate that Feast had to take a train (and so forced to play first) so that he could have been a good Protoss sniper.
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On April 08 2013 22:30 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:27 Otolia wrote:On April 08 2013 22:25 MCDayC wrote:
LOL they brought out Tod, jeeze thats shows millenium's lack of depth. Why ? ToD is still playing a lot. He is not Incontrol you know. Well I don't mean to bash ToD but goswer was still an option and they're gonna revive forGG I'd personally have considered goswer over ToD but I'm not too aware of their hots performances so this based off what I saw at the end of WoL.
goswser isn't available right now. ToD just place second in the francophone championship - which doesn't mean a lot on the world scene but he isn't that bad.
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Gateway expand on 2 player map in PvP...yeah, you're probably going to lose.
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Kinda sad we don't get to see Lure's PvZ. His PvZ is insaaaaaane
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On April 08 2013 22:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:31 Badfatpanda wrote:
Gah have to go teach right when we get to the fun part. Go ForGG! Give them a maths test and continue watching! ESPORTS
I thought he meant teaching Starcraft. He's a young student himself, if I recall correctly.
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On April 08 2013 22:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 08 2013 22:31 Badfatpanda wrote:
Gah have to go teach right when we get to the fun part. Go ForGG! Give them a maths test and continue watching! ESPORTS I thought he meant teaching Starcraft. He's a young student himself, if I recall correctly.
SC2 requires math knowledge too, give them a maths test and continue watching! lol
Can you do a 3 Nexus build in HotS? I gave up on it because medivacs punish you pretty hard.
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On April 08 2013 22:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP. Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do. Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base.
You are completely right. How could I be so stupid to think that Vikings are not always more viable against 5(4?) Colossus than Marines are. I heard that they do pretty good against 9 range rays of death.
Look, you dont have to listen to me, I am just a no name guy. Just realise that you are directly questioning Dayshi his decision making. To do that you have to be pretty arrogant.
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On April 08 2013 22:42 Deckkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP. Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do. Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base. You are completely right. How could I be so stupid to think that Vikings are not always more viable against 5(4?) Colossus than Marines are. I heard that they do pretty good against 9 range rays of death. Look, you dont have to listen to me, I am just a no name guy. Just realise that you are directly questioning Dayshi his decision making. To do that you have to be pretty arrogant.
How'd that work out for Dayshi?
He tried something funky and TB called it "not standard". I don't see what you're on about.
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On April 08 2013 22:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:42 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP. Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do. Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base. You are completely right. How could I be so stupid to think that Vikings are not always more viable against 5(4?) Colossus than Marines are. I heard that they do pretty good against 9 range rays of death. Look, you dont have to listen to me, I am just a no name guy. Just realise that you are directly questioning Dayshi his decision making. To do that you have to be pretty arrogant. How'd that work out for Dayshi?
Are you arguing that he had a better chance winning that with a different army composition?
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People question pro's decision-making all the time. You can be right or wrong but it's hardly stupid in itself.
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On April 08 2013 22:45 Deckkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 08 2013 22:42 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP. Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do. Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base. You are completely right. How could I be so stupid to think that Vikings are not always more viable against 5(4?) Colossus than Marines are. I heard that they do pretty good against 9 range rays of death. Look, you dont have to listen to me, I am just a no name guy. Just realise that you are directly questioning Dayshi his decision making. To do that you have to be pretty arrogant. How'd that work out for Dayshi? Are you arguing that he had a better chance winning that with a different army composition?
Yes. Full ground or full air. He went a mix of both and tried a contain without knowing what his opponent was doing. Turns out Lure went double stargate phoenix with 5 colossi still alive. That kind of DESTROYS a mix of ground and air.
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On April 08 2013 22:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:42 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP. Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do. Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base. You are completely right. How could I be so stupid to think that Vikings are not always more viable against 5(4?) Colossus than Marines are. I heard that they do pretty good against 9 range rays of death. Look, you dont have to listen to me, I am just a no name guy. Just realise that you are directly questioning Dayshi his decision making. To do that you have to be pretty arrogant. How'd that work out for Dayshi?
Not very fair to judge him on that move when Oracles killed more than 60 workers during the game.
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On April 08 2013 22:44 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:42 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:30 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:20 Deckkie wrote:On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings? I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this. Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP. Jesus christ I think we've found someone who does more surface level analysis than I do. Yes, every Bronze player knows "BUILD VIKING AGAINST COLOSSUS", what you do not do is build 12 of them on 2 bases with 2 ports at the expense of medivacs and then setup a bunker/missile turret contain outside your opponents base. You are completely right. How could I be so stupid to think that Vikings are not always more viable against 5(4?) Colossus than Marines are. I heard that they do pretty good against 9 range rays of death. Look, you dont have to listen to me, I am just a no name guy. Just realise that you are directly questioning Dayshi his decision making. To do that you have to be pretty arrogant. How'd that work out for Dayshi?
Positioning costed Dayshi hard. It was pheonix vs Viking, not Viking vs Colossi. It came down to the pheonix flank, but that's what happens when you let your opponent attack your position.
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On April 08 2013 22:38 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On April 08 2013 22:38 AlternativeEgo wrote:On April 08 2013 22:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:On April 08 2013 22:31 Badfatpanda wrote:
Gah have to go teach right when we get to the fun part. Go ForGG! Give them a maths test and continue watching! ESPORTS I thought he meant teaching Starcraft. He's a young student himself, if I recall correctly. SC2 requires math knowledge too, give them a maths test and continue watching! lol
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