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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 08 2013 13:18 GMT
#81
lol dis game
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-08 13:20:07
April 08 2013 13:18 GMT
#82
On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings?


I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this.


You're doing a fine job, keep it up sir.

Phoenix/colossus isn't standard and requires a non-standard response. Marines are not exactly what you want against it. At all. Ground units don't really exist to phoenix/colossus. If you don't want those, you also don't want medivacs. What you really want is VIKINGS and nothing else. Maybe BCs.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Deckkie
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands1595 Posts
April 08 2013 13:20 GMT
#83
On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings?


I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this.


Except that you need the Vikings against collosus. It is the standard, not the exception. Pretty much the first rule in TvP.
Always look on the bright side of life
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 08 2013 13:20 GMT
#84
On April 08 2013 22:17 MCDayC wrote:
WTF did he suicide his probes?!


#YOLO

There are two ways Terran can react to that, both are viable and effective if controlled well.
Go mass bio and ignore the phoenix, trying to position yourself in the best engage possible on a high economy as the Protoss has a difficult time moving out with phoenix colossi until they reach a critical mass.
Make mass fucking vikings and just use static defense to defend your third/fourth location with turrets/bunkers/a few mines.

I've seen both work well in pro matches depending on the map.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
April 08 2013 13:22 GMT
#85
On April 08 2013 22:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings?


I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this.


You're doing a fine job, keep it up sir.

Phoenix/colossus isn't standard and requires a non-standard response. Marines are not exactly what you want against it. At all. Ground units don't really exist to phoenix/colossus. If you don't want those, you also don't want medivacs. What you really want is VIKINGS and nothing else. Maybe BCs.

Ghost / viking do quite well against colossi / phenixes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 08 2013 13:23 GMT
#86
On April 08 2013 22:22 Gevna wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 22:18 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings?


I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss you're not playing standard. Nobody does this.


You're doing a fine job, keep it up sir.

Phoenix/colossus isn't standard and requires a non-standard response. Marines are not exactly what you want against it. At all. Ground units don't really exist to phoenix/colossus. If you don't want those, you also don't want medivacs. What you really want is VIKINGS and nothing else. Maybe BCs.

Ghost / viking do quite well against colossi / phenixes.


Well controlled ghost/viking beats every protoss composition, lol. You don't really need both on 2 bases though. Mass vikings should do the job. What really doesn't do the job is a mix of some ground and some air like we saw that game. If he'd gone super heavy on one of the two (ground/air), he'd have been better off to take his third earlier and outmacro Lure.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 08 2013 13:25 GMT
#87
LOL they brought out Tod, jeeze thats shows millenium's lack of depth.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
April 08 2013 13:25 GMT
#88
Still waiting for ToD to travel to Korea and become the caster everyone is waiting for.
betaman
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom355 Posts
April 08 2013 13:26 GMT
#89
Forget Vikings, a bloody missle turret in both of the mineral lines would have won Dayshi the game.
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
April 08 2013 13:27 GMT
#90
On April 08 2013 22:17 TotalBiscuit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 22:15 Deckkie wrote:
I understand that TB doesnt know alot about sc2, and I amgenerally fine with that. But doesnt it go a little far when he doesnt understand that the Terran needs the Vikings?


I think the only one that doesn't know much about SC2 is you. When you have almost more Vikings than you have Marines against Toss and next to no medivacs in a 2 base game you're not playing standard. Nobody does this.


The marines were just the resulting mineral sink. He needed the vikings to attempt to deal with the phoenix colossi composition which is not all that standard itself. Not scouting the second stargate really hurt Dayshi as I feel he was a bit overconfident after killing off 8 of Lure phoenix.

That was really well played by Lure hiding his phoenix count while getting ups for them and using the stalkers to zone Dayshi's vikings.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
Gevna
Profile Joined August 2010
France2332 Posts
April 08 2013 13:27 GMT
#91
Each time Tod or Grubby lose a game, a part of the kid I was dies :-/
Otolia
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
France5805 Posts
April 08 2013 13:27 GMT
#92
On April 08 2013 22:25 MCDayC wrote:
LOL they brought out Tod, jeeze thats shows millenium's lack of depth.

Why ? ToD is still playing a lot. He is not Incontrol you know.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 08 2013 13:28 GMT
#93
poor tod
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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Penev
Profile Joined October 2012
28530 Posts
April 08 2013 13:28 GMT
#94
Oracle coming in
I Protoss winner, could it be?
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 08 2013 13:28 GMT
#95
On April 08 2013 22:27 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 22:25 MCDayC wrote:
LOL they brought out Tod, jeeze thats shows millenium's lack of depth.

Why ? ToD is still playing a lot. He is not Incontrol you know.


Wooohoooo, defend one player by bashing another
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
PixelNite
Profile Joined August 2011
France1008 Posts
April 08 2013 13:28 GMT
#96
and here comes the oracle.... gg
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 08 2013 13:29 GMT
#97
ye, that was not pretty...
Bermuda
Profile Joined October 2010
Belgium411 Posts
April 08 2013 13:30 GMT
#98
Tod dying super fast to two gates pressure... well that was weird.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 08 2013 13:30 GMT
#99
lolol these games are jankey as hell
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
April 08 2013 13:30 GMT
#100
On April 08 2013 22:27 Otolia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2013 22:25 MCDayC wrote:
LOL they brought out Tod, jeeze thats shows millenium's lack of depth.

Why ? ToD is still playing a lot. He is not Incontrol you know.

Well I don't mean to bash ToD but goswer was still an option and they're gonna revive forGG I'd personally have considered goswer over ToD but I'm not too aware of their hots performances so this based off what I saw at the end of WoL.
Glorious SEA doto
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