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Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
April 04 2013 09:54 GMT
#881
On April 04 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote:
Great game tbh. I guess people just hate ZvZ.


Nah, I actually liked last seasons / WoL ZvZ.

HotS ZvZ is just muta vs muta mostly.

WoL ZvZ, there were lots of crazy strategies.

HotS is WoL ZvZ minus fun strategies and more mutalisk.

Zerg needs Scourge, Mutalisk micro from BW, and maybe the the SC2 Devourer at lair tech.
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Mythal
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Spain108 Posts
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#882
On April 04 2013 18:52 Archybaldie wrote:
For the next ZvZ loop this



It improves the viewer experience



HAHAHAHAHA good one xD!

ZvZ is a mess right now. Although the other day a zerg pro (dont remember his name) shared his no muta build with him. It was kind of cool. I hope the matchup evolves away from the mutawars.

"I wanna read the diary not smoke it!"
Fishriot
Profile Joined May 2010
United States621 Posts
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#883
On April 04 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/319748768146788352/photo/1

KR stream gets a new UI but we dont :O


Damn that actually looks really cool. I wonder if/when they will implement it on the English stream.
YoungTyTy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States801 Posts
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#884
On April 04 2013 18:51 Corrosive wrote:
give corruptors splash bra

I agree that this could be a good idea, possibly, maybe. Might help zerg deal with voids and mutas while not being a huge deal in other areas.
Any fool can ask more questions than a wise man can answer.
felisconcolori
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States6168 Posts
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#885
On April 04 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/319748768146788352/photo/1

KR stream gets a new UI but we dont :O


That's just the demo UI blizzard put together, I think. Plus, the Korean stream has more production staff.
Yes, I email sponsors... to thank them. Don't post drunk, kids. My king, what has become of you?
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#886
I love this Muta vs Muta zvz, playing and watching it's great imo. So mechanical and fast paced. Ling run bys all game long and sick upgrade timings, just a really skillful matchup imo. How can people say lasers vs lasers was better, when you have units being active on the map all game long in zvz now, instead of 2 balls being built up. It's a question of taste I guess, but I love it.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#887
Fungle with damage bonus to bio+air could fix it i guess.
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#888
On April 04 2013 18:49 DJHelium wrote:
Woulnd't it be a good idea to split up your mutas? Just run away with the part that your opponent chooses to defend.

I think as muta vs muta gets more figured out we will get to see smaller packs of mutas harassing more often. I think it could get more exciting than this.

You attack different bases with different packs, your opponent simply goes to your base and straight up kills you.
Veldril
Profile Joined August 2010
Thailand1817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 09:56:40
April 04 2013 09:55 GMT
#889
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:
Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.-

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors.


So how come there weren't *any*?


Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope.


After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh?


I think the next step of ZvZ is trying to squeeze in infestors into the composition without dying to muta first. The timing must be really really tight, though.
Without love, we can't see anything. Without love, the truth can't be seen. - Umineko no Naku Koro Ni
RogerChillingworth
Profile Joined March 2010
Chad3070 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 09:56:25
April 04 2013 09:56 GMT
#890
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:
Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.-

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors.


So how come there weren't *any*?


Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope.


After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh?


150 gas for the pit + 150 gas energy upgrade + 150 gas/infestor. it has to come at the perfect time or, if you get engaged, you're like 6 mutas behind and just lose immediately. i think we'll see it more and more just as a natural evolution of things, but in this style--especially with top korean mechanics--it's hard to justify just "throwing that down".

it's not a question of supply or zerglings. it's all about the gas. and if you have a 1k gas bank, you could even justify a faster muta remax in some situations.

still, i don't like the style at all.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 04 2013 09:56 GMT
#891
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:
Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.-

Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors.


So how come there weren't *any*?


Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope.


After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh?

Even before that you could start teching to infestors. With a few spores at your expansions you can survive any attack even with the fewer mutas while you're waiting for the iinfestors.
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
April 04 2013 09:56 GMT
#892
On April 04 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote:
https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/319748768146788352/photo/1

KR stream gets a new UI but we dont :O

That's actually quite good. More game estate, less useless clutter.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#893
On April 04 2013 18:55 Veldril wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:
Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.-

On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors.


So how come there weren't *any*?


Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope.


After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh?


I think the next step of ZvZ is trying to squeeze in infestors into the composition without dying to muta first.


The only way to do that is to get 1/1 lings and keep the other zerg so far behind defending your lings that you can tech to infestors.
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MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
April 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#894
Who are you, and what have you done with Artosis?
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
April 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#895
On April 04 2013 18:53 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S2 2013 Code S Ro32 Group A
RorO vs Crazy
Game 2: 1-0
Map: Daybreak

0:00
RorO spawns in the bottom left
Crazy spawns in the top right

2:00
pool first for Crazy
hatch first for RorO
gas for RorO
hatch for Crazy
pool for RorO
gas for Crazy

3:00
queens and drones

4:00
ling speed for RorO
ling speed for Crazy
baneling nest for RorO
baneling nest for Crazy

5:00
both players making a couple lings
defensive banelings for both
2nd gas for RorO
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GulpyBlinkeyes
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1449 Posts
April 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#896
Tastosis seems to think that a lot of things were unforgiving.
rothsbury
Profile Joined January 2012
Australia1654 Posts
April 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#897
On April 04 2013 18:56 RogerChillingworth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:
Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.-

On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors.


So how come there weren't *any*?


Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope.


After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh?


150 gas for the pit + 150 gas energy upgrade + 150 gas/infestor. it has to come at the perfect time or, if you get engaged, you're like 6 mutas behind and just lose immediately. i think we'll see it more and more just as a natural evolution of things, but in this style--especially with top korean mechanics--it's hard to justify just "throwing that down".

it's not a question of supply or zerglings. it's all about the gas. and if you have a 1k gas bank, you could even justify a faster muta remax in some situations.

still, i don't like the style at all.

What if you have spores at your bases? The only way you can't avoid an engagement is if they attack one of your expos; a few spores would make up for the muta deficit, wouldn't it?
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
April 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#898
Why are observers Terran only now instead of randomly one of races playing?

I want to listen to Zerg music... WHEN ZERGS ARE PLAYING!

What happened Blizzard ?
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
April 04 2013 09:57 GMT
#899
On April 04 2013 18:57 MCDayC wrote:
Who are you, and what have you done with Artosis?


He's betrayed everything he ever stood for. DT dropper.
Moderator
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
April 04 2013 09:58 GMT
#900
i like these banelings throwing the zerglings all over the place haha
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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