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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:52 Wintex wrote: Great game tbh. I guess people just hate ZvZ. Nah, I actually liked last seasons / WoL ZvZ. HotS ZvZ is just muta vs muta mostly. WoL ZvZ, there were lots of crazy strategies. HotS is WoL ZvZ minus fun strategies and more mutalisk. Zerg needs Scourge, Mutalisk micro from BW, and maybe the the SC2 Devourer at lair tech. | ||
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Mythal
Spain108 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:52 Archybaldie wrote: For the next ZvZ loop this It improves the viewer experience HAHAHAHAHA good one xD! ZvZ is a mess right now. Although the other day a zerg pro (dont remember his name) shared his no muta build with him. It was kind of cool. I hope the matchup evolves away from the mutawars. | ||
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Fishriot
United States621 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote: https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/319748768146788352/photo/1 KR stream gets a new UI but we dont :O Damn that actually looks really cool. I wonder if/when they will implement it on the English stream. | ||
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YoungTyTy
United States801 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:51 Corrosive wrote: give corruptors splash bra I agree that this could be a good idea, possibly, maybe. Might help zerg deal with voids and mutas while not being a huge deal in other areas. | ||
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felisconcolori
United States6168 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote: https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/319748768146788352/photo/1 KR stream gets a new UI but we dont :O That's just the demo UI blizzard put together, I think. Plus, the Korean stream has more production staff. | ||
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Musicus
Germany23579 Posts
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Insoleet
France1806 Posts
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Assirra
Belgium4169 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:49 DJHelium wrote: Woulnd't it be a good idea to split up your mutas? Just run away with the part that your opponent chooses to defend. I think as muta vs muta gets more figured out we will get to see smaller packs of mutas harassing more often. I think it could get more exciting than this. You attack different bases with different packs, your opponent simply goes to your base and straight up kills you. | ||
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Veldril
Thailand1817 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote: Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.- After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh? I think the next step of ZvZ is trying to squeeze in infestors into the composition without dying to muta first. The timing must be really really tight, though. | ||
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RogerChillingworth
Chad3132 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote: Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.- After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh? 150 gas for the pit + 150 gas energy upgrade + 150 gas/infestor. it has to come at the perfect time or, if you get engaged, you're like 6 mutas behind and just lose immediately. i think we'll see it more and more just as a natural evolution of things, but in this style--especially with top korean mechanics--it's hard to justify just "throwing that down". it's not a question of supply or zerglings. it's all about the gas. and if you have a 1k gas bank, you could even justify a faster muta remax in some situations. still, i don't like the style at all. | ||
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote: Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.- After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh? Even before that you could start teching to infestors. With a few spores at your expansions you can survive any attack even with the fewer mutas while you're waiting for the iinfestors. | ||
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WigglingSquid
5194 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:52 Dodgin wrote: https://twitter.com/Khaldor/status/319748768146788352/photo/1 KR stream gets a new UI but we dont :O That's actually quite good. More game estate, less useless clutter. | ||
stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:55 Veldril wrote: I think the next step of ZvZ is trying to squeeze in infestors into the composition without dying to muta first. The only way to do that is to get 1/1 lings and keep the other zerg so far behind defending your lings that you can tech to infestors. | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:53 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL S2 2013 Code S Ro32 Group A  RorO vs CrazyGame 2: 1-0 Map: Daybreak 0:00 RorO spawns in the bottom left Crazy spawns in the top right2:00 pool first for Crazy hatch first for RorO gas for RorO hatch for Crazy pool for RorO gas for Crazy 3:00 queens and drones 4:00 ling speed for RorO ling speed for Crazy baneling nest for RorO baneling nest for Crazy 5:00 both players making a couple lings defensive banelings for both 2nd gas for RorO | ||
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GulpyBlinkeyes
United States1449 Posts
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rothsbury
Australia1654 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:56 RogerChillingworth wrote: 150 gas for the pit + 150 gas energy upgrade + 150 gas/infestor. it has to come at the perfect time or, if you get engaged, you're like 6 mutas behind and just lose immediately. i think we'll see it more and more just as a natural evolution of things, but in this style--especially with top korean mechanics--it's hard to justify just "throwing that down". it's not a question of supply or zerglings. it's all about the gas. and if you have a 1k gas bank, you could even justify a faster muta remax in some situations. still, i don't like the style at all. What if you have spores at your bases? The only way you can't avoid an engagement is if they attack one of your expos; a few spores would make up for the muta deficit, wouldn't it? | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
I want to listen to Zerg music... WHEN ZERGS ARE PLAYING! What happened Blizzard ? | ||
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stuchiu
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
On April 04 2013 18:57 MCDayC wrote: Who are you, and what have you done with Artosis? He's betrayed everything he ever stood for. DT dropper. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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