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On April 04 2013 18:56 rothsbury wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.- On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors. So how come there weren't *any*? Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope. After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh? Even before that you could start teching to infestors. With a few spores at your expansions you can survive any attack even with the fewer mutas while you're waiting for the iinfestors.
then you're conceding all map control and will probably just get behind in a base. which means you're banking on really great fungals for a single engagement.
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The only thing I like about ZvZ now is the early game ling/baneling wars.
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According to Blade55555(I think), 0 attack - 2 armor beats 2 attack - 0 armor and 1 attack - 1 armor quite heavily. And it is quite logical to be honest.
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On April 04 2013 18:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:57 MCDayC wrote:
Who are you, and what have you done with Artosis? He's betrayed everything he ever stood for. DT dropper.
LOL. Almost forgot how Artosis hated DTs so much in BW. Oh, the irony. :p
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ZvZ is like getting mouth to mouth respiration by a sow.. grmbl
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On April 04 2013 18:57 stuchiu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:57 MCDayC wrote:
Who are you, and what have you done with Artosis? He's betrayed everything he ever stood for. DT dropper.
Yeah... when he switched from Terran to Zerg then to Protoss...
Who is this guy?
Also funny thing, he complained about DTs in the final OSL finals (Jangbi vs Fantasy)... in 2012 (when he was playing Protoss in SC2).
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On April 04 2013 18:57 Goldfish wrote:
Why are observers Terran only now instead of randomly one of races playing?
I want to listen to Zerg music... WHEN ZERGS ARE PLAYING!
What happened Blizzard ?
Plainly saidm, Terran music is better... And I'm Toss T.T
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I hope Roro wins game 2 so we dont have to watch more ZvZ
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On April 04 2013 18:56 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.- On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors. So how come there weren't *any*? Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope. After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh? 150 gas for the pit + 150 gas energy upgrade + 150 gas/infestor. it has to come at the perfect time or, if you get engaged, you're like 6 mutas behind and just lose immediately. i think we'll see it more and more just as a natural evolution of things, but in this style--especially with top korean mechanics--it's hard to justify just "throwing that down". it's not a question of supply or zerglings. it's all about the gas. and if you have a 1k gas bank, you could even justify a faster muta remax in some situations. still, i don't like the style at all.
Crazy was already playing quite passive. He could have afforded a little bit of turtling with spore crawlers until the infestors are out, or? (although it is quite risky to give up that much map presence,not sure im not a zerg player  )
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'Unforgiving', Tastosis' favorite word.
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Is there no timing to kill this spire muta play?
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Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
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On April 04 2013 18:58 RogerChillingworth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:56 rothsbury wrote:On April 04 2013 18:53 Miragee wrote:Goddamn. ZvZ is the same boring shit as in WoL just with other units. -.- On April 04 2013 18:51 Thrillz wrote:On April 04 2013 18:49 MasterOfPuppets wrote:On April 04 2013 18:49 Dodgin wrote:
Imagine like 2 infestors. So how come there weren't *any*? Investing in infestors is cost intensive, which means less mutas. Ur pretty much bettin on hitting a money fungal as your only hope. After hitting 200/200 of turteling and avoiding fights you might want to add an infestor pit and replace some zerglings with a few infestors uh? Even before that you could start teching to infestors. With a few spores at your expansions you can survive any attack even with the fewer mutas while you're waiting for the iinfestors. then you're conceding all map control and will probably just get behind in a base. which means you're banking on really great fungals for a single engagement.
What about when they were both on 3-4 bases?
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On April 04 2013 18:58 Mythal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:57 Goldfish wrote:
Why are observers Terran only now instead of randomly one of races playing?
I want to listen to Zerg music... WHEN ZERGS ARE PLAYING!
What happened Blizzard ? Plainly saidm, Terran music is better... And I'm Toss T.T
In WoL, maybe.
But in HotS, I think Zerg music is actually the best.
One of the music is the Heart of the Swarm trailer music (which is epic IMO).
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Wouldn't it be cool to see a burrowed baneling in front of that spine crawler?
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opterown
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this ling-baneling is actually pretty fun
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On April 04 2013 18:57 Shellshock1122 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 04 2013 18:53 Shellshock1122 wrote: GSL S2 2013 Code S Ro32 Group A  RorO vs Crazy Game 2: 1-0 Map: Daybreak 0:00 RorO spawns in the bottom left Crazy spawns in the top right 2:00 pool first for Crazy hatch first for RorO gas for RorO hatch for Crazy pool for RorO gas for Crazy 3:00 queens and drones 4:00 ling speed for RorO ling speed for Crazy baneling nest for RorO baneling nest for Crazy 5:00 both players making a couple lings defensive banelings for both 2nd gas for RorO
6:00
Lair for Crazy
2 more gas for Crazy
Lair for RorO
2 more gas for RorO
7:00
spine in the natural for Crazy
spire for Crazy
8:00
spire for RorO
few ling and bane skirmishes outside the natural of Crazy
spine in the natural for RorO
3rd base for Crazy
3rd base for RorO
9:00
RorO putting on some more ling pressure at the natural of Crazy but Crazy is able to push him back
lings attacking at the building 3rd of Crazy and kill the spine
banes kill almost all the lings of RorO
mutas started for both players
10:00
+1 air carapace started for RorO
+1 air carapace started for Crazy
2 more gas for both players
RorO is ahead by 15 supply
RorO harassing overlords of Crazy
ling runby is denied at the natural of RorO by banes
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Roro is actually too good
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On April 04 2013 19:00 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Is there no timing to kill this spire muta play?
There are mass ling / baneling timings, but it's really all in and difficult to pull off
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