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The usual: Don't flame casters or players. Don't discuss balance in this or any LR thread. Don't call your fellow posters idiots. Be excited, happy and entertained.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
March 16 2013 18:54 GMT
#1901
We need to get Mvp vs MC on stream already before EU goes to sleep and break 100k on main stream.
Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1902
On March 17 2013 03:54 VKCA wrote:
If I subscribe to the user "MLG" on twitch will I also get access to the vods of "MLGSC2"?

i'm 99.9% sure you will.
Darkhorse
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
United States23455 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1903
Don't really like how Husky says Taeja but atleast he's not commentating Nony lol.
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Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42400 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1904
On March 17 2013 03:54 VKCA wrote:
If I subscribe to the user "MLG" on twitch will I also get access to the vods of "MLGSC2"?


Pretty sure the streams are linked.
"If I had force-fields in Brood War, I'd never lose." -Bisu
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11086 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 18:56:11
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1905
On March 17 2013 03:52 Qikz wrote:
Am I the only one who honestly thinks these drops are not that much of a big deal?

Tosses I've seen are scouting them when they're just outside their base and they'd take exactly the same amount of damage with or without speedboost.

I think people are using the speedboost (outside of cloud kingdom as it's silly) as an excuse for having bad drop defense. Not once have I seen in HoTS (outside of Parting vs Yoda?) in IEM tosses actually leaving units back to defend.


I honestly don't think you understand how the matchup plays from the toss perspective. Drops are resulting in almost free damage ontop of the more subtle power of keeping that third and consequently tech tosses need to fight somewhat evenly with a terran ball. This toss army has to throw economy at terran drops because terran drops are just so so so much more efficient than raw gateway units. Speedvacs are effecting everything.


WHY DTS
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
ELA
Profile Joined April 2010
Denmark4608 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1906
Haha, the 1 Zealot, 1 Stalker contain
The first link of chain forged, the first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1907
DT!
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1908
On March 17 2013 03:51 AgentW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 03:50 gamerdude12345 wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:48 MCDayC wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:47 MCDayC wrote:
This game is just too damn skillbased T_T

Blizzard is going to lose all their gambling addict fans

TheBB is gonna win all the liquibets.


his program gave huk a 47% chance to beat bogus T.T

He doesn't have much HotS data yet, but that's still seems quite off.


Both of them were in the 1400's, huk in the lower end and bogus at the higher end
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1909
On March 17 2013 03:54 VKCA wrote:
If I subscribe to the user "MLG" on twitch will I also get access to the vods of "MLGSC2"?


The vods are free on the MLG website.
The curse is real
VKCA
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada391 Posts
March 16 2013 18:55 GMT
#1910
On March 17 2013 03:55 Tayar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 03:54 VKCA wrote:
If I subscribe to the user "MLG" on twitch will I also get access to the vods of "MLGSC2"?

i'm 99.9% sure you will.

yeah I'd assume so, because that'd be pretty poor form on mlg's part if it didn't, just wanted to make sure
AgentW
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United States7725 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1911
On March 17 2013 03:55 Darkhoarse wrote:
Don't really like how Husky says Taeja but atleast he's not commentating Nony lol.

He's actually the only guy who pronounces NonY correctly. Tyler has said that's how he pronounces it.
Who's the bigger scrub, the scrub, or the scrub who loses to him?
_SpiRaL_
Profile Joined December 2012
Afghanistan1636 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1912
On March 17 2013 03:51 Badfatpanda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 03:48 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:47 Linwelin wrote:
YEAHHHH
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[image loading]


Bomber needs an adult, he's being raped in mid-air ;;

though not as bad as Goswser that game


It's OK guys, Goswser is Foreigner hope, he got dis 3-1 ezpz. Are foreigner zergs aside from Ret just hitting a brick wall in the transition right now in TvZ, kinda seems like it. I know the skill disparity between the players hasn't been the greatest representation in the statistics we have thus far from the first 2 hots tournies but dayum son.


Who has Ret beaten in HoTs though? Its a small sample and he has lost against all the good koreans so I don't even think Ret is doing any better than other foreigners to be honest, other than by chance.
Red and yellow are all I see
Pure-SC2
Profile Joined November 2011
United Kingdom1440 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1913
On March 17 2013 03:55 Sabu113 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 03:52 Qikz wrote:
Am I the only one who honestly thinks these drops are not that much of a big deal?

Tosses I've seen are scouting them when they're just outside their base and they'd take exactly the same amount of damage with or without speedboost.

I think people are using the speedboost (outside of cloud kingdom as it's silly) as an excuse for having bad drop defense. Not once have I seen in HoTS (outside of Parting vs Yoda?) in IEM tosses actually leaving units back to defend.


I honestly don't think you understand how the matchup plays from the toss perspective. Drops are resulting in almost free damage ontop of the more subtle power of keeping that third and consequently tech tosses need to fight somewhat evenly with a terran ball. This toss army has to throw economy at terran drops because terran drops are just so so so much more efficient than raw gateway units. Speedvacs are effecting everything.


WHY DTS


When no hope, DT's!
"Every time I visit community sites, I'm just embarrassed. There's so much witch hunting and name calling and arguing and gossip. Misogynist comments against women. It's just embarrassing." – Tasteless
gamerdude12345
Profile Joined August 2011
Korea (South)378 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1914
Meanwhile, artosis is freaking out
'One does not simply walk into Mordor"
diverzee
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden992 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1915
Haha, incontrol's convoluted analogies. Love his casts ^^
Parting
bankobauss
Profile Joined December 2012
204 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1916
On March 17 2013 03:52 Qikz wrote:
Am I the only one who honestly thinks these drops are not that much of a big deal?

Tosses I've seen are scouting them when they're just outside their base and they'd take exactly the same amount of damage with or without speedboost.

I think people are using the speedboost (outside of cloud kingdom as it's silly) as an excuse for having bad drop defense. Not once have I seen in HoTS (outside of Parting vs Yoda?) in IEM tosses actually leaving units back to defend.


the speed of the drops create moments where you are defending your third and the medivacs can see your units there then speed into your main

blink is so slow to get, and blink stalkers also pretty much suck in the matchup at anything other than drop defense

i think the answer to this is pheonix / zealots (instead of stalkers)
instead of nerfing terran id say protoss could stand some slight buffing when it comes to buildtimes

i believe pheonix are the perfectly designed unit protoss already has to deal with medivacs. the cost/strength of phoenix, 150/100/2food gives you a pretty powerful unit to deal with drops and small marauding bio forces

imagine instead of every 2 stalkers (250/100) you had 1zealot and 1pheonix (250/100). think about it the pheonix are so much faster and superior and can actually get those darn medivacs

imagine if a protoss had 15 pheonix's spread out on the map to intercept drops and a strong ground army of collossi/storm/etc and when you see the terran moving in you can tell if its most of his army the pheonix are so fast they can respond and join the fight within 13 seconds while you retreat and drop down defensive storms for those 13 seconds.

pheonix IMO in that situation is much better than stalkers. Imagine you can have 30 stalkers OR 15 pheonix 15 zealot in your forces. Obviously the pheonix is more desire-able they can kill medivacs and even in that amount kill the drops themselves too

the problem is protoss as a race is just "so slow" right now... the COST of pheonix is good but its just the mechanics of protoss race where they are so forced into massing gateway units all game just to have a surviving chance..... it seems protoss ALREADY has the proper units to deal with this stuff with proper cost and balance and strength, its just the design of the race mechanics that makes it so difficult and i believe imo thats where the fixes should be addressed
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1917
On March 17 2013 03:55 gamerdude12345 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 03:51 AgentW wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:50 gamerdude12345 wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:48 MCDayC wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:47 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On March 17 2013 03:47 MCDayC wrote:
This game is just too damn skillbased T_T

Blizzard is going to lose all their gambling addict fans

TheBB is gonna win all the liquibets.


his program gave huk a 47% chance to beat bogus T.T

He doesn't have much HotS data yet, but that's still seems quite off.


Both of them were in the 1400's, huk in the lower end and bogus at the higher end

Bogus only has 14 games played before that series in TLPD and he was 4-10 in TvP. That's why he was rated so low. When he starts playing more games his rating will be more accurate
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stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1918
I know Innovation told people that DTs are hard to deal with, but I think the Protosses are taking this too much to heart.
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Tayar
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1439 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1919
oh god if taeja had found that pylon it would be game.
Karis Vas Ryaar
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States4396 Posts
March 16 2013 18:56 GMT
#1920
On March 17 2013 03:55 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 17 2013 03:54 VKCA wrote:
If I subscribe to the user "MLG" on twitch will I also get access to the vods of "MLGSC2"?


The vods are free on the MLG website.


dont you have to pay for instant access? they usually release them free like a week after the event
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