On March 09 2013 19:02 Schelim wrote: really? she's gonna ask that question again? "do you want your team mate to win or to lose?" really?
i really can't stand rachel as a host at all tbh. i don't know why they couldn't just get Soe, this tournament is in germany ffs.
I think she is doing a great job hosting, and she looks good. I'm totally fine with it
i disagree on both, but everybody's entitled to their opinion i guess. for some reason she really ticks me off, and it's not only the constant barrage of stupid questions...
people need to stop caring about the casters and hosts and start focusing on the actual game play it self, its so shameful to see theres more comments in LR threads about casters/hosts then there is about the actual game.
i care much more about the game but when there's nothing else to do in between games, i'll take the time and talk about something i don't like. it's still part of tournament production.
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
Specially after what happened with the infestor. All zergs cried it was useless and after the +20% (fungal) damage on armored it became the most OP unit ever? C'mon...
For now maybe zergs need to corrupt + focus the Collo down one by one, so Hydras have a fight chance against Voids.
I agree with Ret in that Voids are the big problem for zerg atm.
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
A little won't do much, because they get massacred by storm/colossus so hard.
yonghwa played that match amazingly well, but is a protoss of yonghwa's caliber actually beatable by Zerg? I don't see it happening, yonghwa engaged without the voidray buff in one of those engagements and still absolutely roflstomped ret's army.
Imo the problem is they buffed Voidrays while nerfing Infestors, just revert one or the other and the unit in it self should be fine, that or they could just make Prismatic Alignment an upgrade on Fleet Beacon perhaps but that would still leave the late game in shambles.
On March 09 2013 19:00 nkr wrote: these arent live report threads, they're live balance whine threads TT
It'll be like this for the next ~2 years, at which point Blizz will massively buff zerg in every regard.
History is a great teacher.
Uh it'll be like this forever, terrans QQ'd galore, protosses QQ'd galore, zergs QQ'd galore. It's never going to stop even if the game is 100% balanced.
Eh, I'm just referring to the "OMG what can zerg do toss so imba gg davie fuck rocks." People are gonna whine no matter what, it's just this particular flavor of whining.
On March 09 2013 19:06 Megabuster123 wrote: As a zerg player, it was difficult to watch this series. It felt like those were my corrupters being absolutely useless...
Well they are, voidray's counter them after all, that's what the zerg currently struggle with, there is nothing air to match voidray's, so something ground has to trade efficient, we have Violet playing so who knows perhaps he found a different tactic.
Void Ray colossus gets buffed, and the original response to it, the infestor, gets nerfed to shit. Morrow, you speak true thoughts.
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
Specially after what happened with the infestor. All zergs cried it was useless and after the +20% damage on armored it became the most OP unit ever? C'mon...
For now maybe zergs need to corrupt + focus the Collo down one by one, so Hydras have a fight chance against Voids.
I agree with Ret in that Voids are the big problem for zerg atm.
You clearly haven't seen what a small mass of void rays with PA does vs Hydra.
Theres no pleasing people with casters or hosts, cannot see how you can get more complex questions when not even a native English speaker. I thought the answer that he would rather play a Violet was telling and decent. Remember she is talking to a rock so of course there will be awkwardness especially with language barrier.
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
A little won't do much, because they get massacred by storm/colossus so hard.
yonghwa played that match amazingly well, but is a protoss of yonghwa's caliber actually beatable by Zerg? I don't see it happening, yonghwa engaged without the voidray buff in one of those engagements and still absolutely roflstomped ret's army.
If you add like 10hp it is a gigantic amount of hp to a big hydra ball. Little buffs make huge differences. Just look at the end of 2011 Protoss buffs. They made upgrades cheaper and gave the Immortals 1 more range and Protoss was the best race for the next 6 months.
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
Specially after what happened with the infestor. All zergs cried it was useless and after the +20% (fungal) damage on armored it became the most OP unit ever? C'mon...
Yeah people don't realize that patches change the metagame just as much if not more than anything else. The change got people to try infestors out more and led to infestor-heavy compositions, but if you took PvZ right now in WoL and reverted the Fungal buff, it wouldn't the endgame issues at all.
On March 09 2013 19:00 nkr wrote: these arent live report threads, they're live balance whine threads TT
It'll be like this for the next ~2 years, at which point Blizz will massively buff zerg in every regard.
History is a great teacher.
Uh it'll be like this forever, terrans QQ'd galore, protosses QQ'd galore, zergs QQ'd galore. It's never going to stop even if the game is 100% balanced.
Eh, I'm just referring to the "OMG what can zerg do toss so imba gg davie fuck rocks." People are gonna whine no matter what, it's just this particular flavor of whining.
the particular "flavor" that every single race has done? please get over yourself. every race has whined like this, some more justified than others
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
A little won't do much, because they get massacred by storm/colossus so hard.
yonghwa played that match amazingly well, but is a protoss of yonghwa's caliber actually beatable by Zerg? I don't see it happening, yonghwa engaged without the voidray buff in one of those engagements and still absolutely roflstomped ret's army.
If you add like 10hp it is a gigantic amount of hp to a big hydra ball. Little buffs make huge differences. Just look at the end of 2011 Protoss buffs. They made upgrades cheaper and gave the Immortals 1 more range and Protoss was the best race for the next 6 months.
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
Specially after what happened with the infestor. All zergs cried it was useless and after the +20% (fungal) damage on armored it became the most OP unit ever? C'mon...
For now maybe zergs need to corrupt + focus the Collo down one by one, so Hydras have a fight chance against Voids.
I agree with Ret in that Voids are the big problem for zerg atm.
I think vipers are the key to this matchup now, maybe it is a better choice than massing corrupters , I know feedback is basically a direct counter but for a protoss to go void ray, templar , collosus on the 3 bases takes a while and I am sure there will be some good timing attacks designed around this idea. I think as a zerg player we got lazy scouting protoss past the midgame, we need to know if they are transitioning hard to voids, or going mass collosus etc and then react accordingly
On March 09 2013 19:02 Liquid`Ret wrote: hehe, you can focus the collosus and everything will die to voidrays? I think you have to out muscle the air units to have a chance, the collosus arent the biggest problem since locust will eventually kill them, the air doesnt go away though
Great run Ret, sad that you didn't go further, but I disagree. If you have Hydras(and you had them), you could handled Voids since they don't do extra damage vs. Hydras. Also, with four Colossi, Locusts don't get to them, like AT ALL, they melt before even touching them, and that is why none of the Colossi died. But that is just my opinion, hope you do better next time.
On March 09 2013 19:04 unteqair wrote: I hope they give it a couple of months before nerfing things. If anything, I'd prefer more tools of attack given to races struggling with a matchup.
Yeah if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two then instead of nerfing voids they should just buff something zerg maybe hydras a little? Just a little more hp/damage would make a huge difference.
A little won't do much, because they get massacred by storm/colossus so hard.
yonghwa played that match amazingly well, but is a protoss of yonghwa's caliber actually beatable by Zerg? I don't see it happening, yonghwa engaged without the voidray buff in one of those engagements and still absolutely roflstomped ret's army.
If you add like 10hp it is a gigantic amount of hp to a big hydra ball. Little buffs make huge differences. Just look at the end of 2011 Protoss buffs. They made upgrades cheaper and gave the Immortals 1 more range and Protoss was the best race for the next 6 months.
Which 6 months?
Yea I'm also having a hard time remembering protoss being the strongest race for 6 months
EPT
I think you have to out muscle the air units to have a chance, the collosus arent the biggest problem since locust will eventually kill them, the air doesnt go away though
