EPT[IEM] World Championship Day 5 - Page 22
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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Archybaldie
United Kingdom818 Posts
It may sound weird but ret's been punishing any robo opening with swarm hosts throughout the tournament. But the stargate openers seemed tricky. | ||
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
On March 09 2013 19:25 Archybaldie wrote: Ive been wondering if vs a stargate opening you want to open with vipers but vs a robo opening you want to open with swarm hosts. It may sound weird but ret's been punishing any robo opening with swarm hosts throughout the tournament. But the stargate openers seemed tricky. open with hive? I don't believe you can do that reasonable even from 2base.  | ||
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ACrow
Germany6583 Posts
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Lukeeze[zR]
Switzerland6838 Posts
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ALPINA
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JJH777
United States4418 Posts
On March 09 2013 19:21 Salteador Neo wrote: Now this is an interesting idea compared to the previous 2 posts by other users who simply QQed and contributed with nothing. I don't have much experience with HotS yet but that's gonna change. The yoink ability seems really good against Collo, which I wish to see outside of just the obvious nasty timing pushes that are gonna pop around. I guess you missed me saying "if it still seems imbalanced in a month or two". I'm not QQing at all. I don't think that match indicated any sort of balance. YongHwa is far better than Ret. He would have 3-0'd him in WoL and no one will say PvZ there is Protoss favored. | ||
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RiZu
Singapore5715 Posts
On March 09 2013 19:33 Lukeeze[zR] wrote: LG-IM good unit. More like good race. | ||
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Thrillz
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PresenceSc2
Australia4032 Posts
http://i.imgur.com/f5ELvEg.jpg Too much esports | ||
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Archybaldie
United Kingdom818 Posts
On March 09 2013 19:27 Big J wrote: open with hive? I don't believe you can do that reasonable even from 2base. Opening probabaly wasnt exactly the correct term for me to use. But i mean ... roach hydra seems to be the staple of the midgame at the moment ... So compisitionally with roach/hydra/swarm host (possibly without the roaches) you can pressure a robo opening because when a protoss opens robo they have limited aggressive potential and have to play defensive (or all in) letting you position the swarm hosts to keep the protoss defensive (see ret's games from earlier in the tournament). However with a stargate opening the zerg is forced into being the defensive one because of the phoenixes. This limits the positioning and aggressive potential of swarm hosts and lets the protoss get the colossus/voidray/etc numbers up. So the protoss can build up more comfortaly. Additionally the phoenix opener forces hydralisks which requires the zerg have a way to protect the hydralisks in the big engagement when the zerg has stabalized from the harassment. The viper is a great tool for defending a hydralisk. Mainly the "yoink" ability to pull and kill off the colossus. Then the Blinding cloud letting the hydras engage better. | ||
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n0ise
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NeonFox
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Megabuster123
Canada1837 Posts
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Liquid`TLO
Germany767 Posts
On March 09 2013 19:33 ALPINA wrote: when will zergs understand that it's so much more efficient to consume energy from different buildings.. because of the 0,27 hp/sec regeneration that you gain? much more efficient, after 100 secs you'll have 27 more hp to consume  sorry for being cynical ;; edit: consume on evos is freaking awesome, not complaining :D | ||
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Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
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Ysellian
Netherlands9029 Posts
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Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
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United States4006 Posts
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