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On March 10 2013 01:08 AxionSteel wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote: People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself. His macro is incredible whilst harassing all over the place as well. As tod and apollo point out, never above 500 minerals. He's just a macro beast.
how was the game vs MVP, couldnt watch it T_T
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C'mon First win at least one match...Go Go!
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On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote: Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.
First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.
But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans. Either way, I'm watching something else, this tourny had a lot of PvZ, which was fascinating, but PvT is just a boring matchup now. Thanks for the laugh :D
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On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote: Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.
First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.
But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.
It would be expansion terrans not patch terrrans, and if this was WoL we would still see YoDa dominating First. Speed drops have been integral in his performance but First is not playing up to his usual level of skill. He's just getting destroyed through harassment and very strong timing attacks.
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On March 10 2013 01:10 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:08 AxionSteel wrote:On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote: People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself. His macro is incredible whilst harassing all over the place as well. As tod and apollo point out, never above 500 minerals. He's just a macro beast. how was the game vs MVP, couldnt watch it T_T
One of the best series at this event
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Impressive play by YoDa. :o I thought FIrst would have the edge, but apparantly not!
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On March 10 2013 01:09 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:08 Exarl25 wrote:On March 10 2013 01:07 nomyx wrote:On March 10 2013 01:07 Exarl25 wrote:On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:crappy, one sided finals  terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes. They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies. No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away. What imbalances are super obvious from this series? I see First playing like trash. But he's playing like trash because terran is imba. That's just what you want to believe. PartinG did much better against Yoda than First is. Nope. First actually beat Yoda on the first day..
We are talking about this series obviously. Christ I need to get out of this thread for the sake of my sanity. I cannot believe how brain dead this community can be at times.
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On March 10 2013 01:10 ES.Genie wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote: Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.
First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.
But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans. Either way, I'm watching something else, this tourny had a lot of PvZ, which was fascinating, but PvT is just a boring matchup now. Thanks for the laugh :D
We're not patch terrans, we're expansion terrans.
Much more fearsome.
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On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote: People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself.
Even as a Zerg player I agree with this sentiment (No bias needed!). Glad to see a lot of the new options in HOTS are creating what is, imo, a more exciting game to watch. If any changes are made they should be made in the direction that other races get proper responses to things considered powerful rather than nerfing everything that's powerful into oblivion.
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Hahaha, coach Kang with hilarious rules.
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Wow that's pretty hardcore^^, welcome to twitter Yoda .
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On March 10 2013 01:08 essencez wrote: First floating on 800~ adding 4 extra gates during a major engagement :\.
It can be kinda tricky in the high pressure moments to control your economy. Do you get 3 zealots now or 2 gates. If you get the 3 zealots now then you might not die. But you might lose control on your macro a few minutes down the line. Or you might not have enough gates finished when the next attack comes.
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It is telling that First just moved his ball into Yoda yet Yoda sucessfully engaged on three fronts while macroing far, far better than First.
It's not speedvacs. It's just that finally, all that drop practice and TvP skill that Terrans had to hone through years of dealing with the vastly superior Protoss deathball is finally paying off. Protoss need to adapt and need to start to play better.
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On March 10 2013 01:10 Topin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:08 AxionSteel wrote:On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote: People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself. His macro is incredible whilst harassing all over the place as well. As tod and apollo point out, never above 500 minerals. He's just a macro beast. how was the game vs MVP, couldnt watch it T_T
It was a high quality tvt series, if you enjoy tvt you should watch it 
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On March 10 2013 01:10 nomyx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:10 ES.Genie wrote:On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote: Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.
First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.
But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans. Either way, I'm watching something else, this tourny had a lot of PvZ, which was fascinating, but PvT is just a boring matchup now. Thanks for the laugh :D We're not patch terrans, we're expansion terrans. Much more fearsome.
And we'll mass ghosts/bc's.
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Nerfs will come look at the first IEM, speed Reaper to victory. Speed boost to victory on this IEM. Blizzard hasn't seen high enough play to make any changes before release, they might wait longer, but it'll come sooner or later. I just hope it ain't late like Infestor nerfs.
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On March 10 2013 01:09 Big J wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote: Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.
First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.
But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.
Sorry, but if you want to start a trend, you need a more catchy name. Also HotS is not a patch...
HotS has been patched numerous times, this medivac crap has only been going on since a couple weeks.
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On March 10 2013 00:50 Lazzi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 00:49 syroz wrote:On March 10 2013 00:45 PetitCop wrote: Those drops seem to safe vs protoss low anti air dps. Yeah. But iam sure that stargate opener can be really relevant here. One oracle to harass, a handfull of phoenix to handle drops, VR for viking and cover colossi. They need new builds. Right, I think Protoss need new builds. You can see that Yoda is using a HotS build whereas First is doing a WoL build. Protoss player here (just incase). Well first of all, Yoda is actually just doing a normal MMM build with a couple early widowmines. No different from WoL except that you get much better defense early game, and you get much better aggression with speed medivacs instead of regular ones.
Those 2 things enable Yoda to snowball the game out of control and win with a 3 base timing. The new toss oracle is easily deterred by the widowmines and the mothership core does not help with defense as much as the new medivacs help with offense.
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Personally, as a shitty terran, I feel the first nerf to speedivacs shouulf be slightly increased cooldown, also the cooldown shouulfd start when they pop from the starpor.
BUT IM BOOZED ON CANDIAN CLUB SO FUCK ITT WE OWN YOU CUNTS. Z+P=BADDIES.
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On March 10 2013 01:11 ShamW0W wrote:Show nested quote +On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote: People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself. Even as a Zerg player I agree with this sentiment (No bias needed!). Glad to see a lot of the new options in HOTS are creating what is, imo, a more exciting game to watch. If any changes are made they should be made in the direction that other races get proper responses to things considered powerful rather than nerfing everything that's powerful into oblivion.
I hope that Protoss can find a way to go for phoenix to deal with the drops. If not, give phoenix 3more range and buff their speed to 8.
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