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Topin
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Peru10084 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2181
On March 10 2013 01:08 AxionSteel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote:
People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself.


His macro is incredible whilst harassing all over the place as well. As tod and apollo point out, never above 500 minerals. He's just a macro beast.



how was the game vs MVP, couldnt watch it T_T
i would define my style between a mix of ByuN, Maru and MKP
Zerg.Zilla
Profile Joined February 2012
Hungary5029 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2182
C'mon First win at least one match...Go Go!
(•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■) ~Keep calm and inject Larva~
ES.Genie
Profile Joined July 2011
Germany1370 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2183
On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote:
Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.

First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.

But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.
Either way, I'm watching something else, this tourny had a lot of PvZ, which was fascinating, but PvT is just a boring matchup now.

Thanks for the laugh :D
No Mvp, no care. ~ the King will be back | Shawn Ray, Kevin Levrone, Phil Heath |
Badfatpanda
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States9719 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2184
On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote:
Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.

First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.

But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.


It would be expansion terrans not patch terrrans, and if this was WoL we would still see YoDa dominating First. Speed drops have been integral in his performance but First is not playing up to his usual level of skill. He's just getting destroyed through harassment and very strong timing attacks.
Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy. -Beethoven | Mech isn't a build, it's a way of life. -MajOr | Charlie.Sheen: "What is sarcastic, kids who have no courage to fight?" | #TerranPride #yolo #swag -Naama after 2-0'ing MC at HSC VI
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2185
On March 10 2013 01:10 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:08 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote:
People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself.


His macro is incredible whilst harassing all over the place as well. As tod and apollo point out, never above 500 minerals. He's just a macro beast.



how was the game vs MVP, couldnt watch it T_T


One of the best series at this event
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2186
Impressive play by YoDa. :o I thought FIrst would have the edge, but apparantly not!
Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2187
On March 10 2013 01:09 vthree wrote:
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On March 10 2013 01:08 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:07 nomyx wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:07 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.


What imbalances are super obvious from this series? I see First playing like trash.


But he's playing like trash because terran is imba.


That's just what you want to believe. PartinG did much better against Yoda than First is.


Nope. First actually beat Yoda on the first day..


We are talking about this series obviously. Christ I need to get out of this thread for the sake of my sanity. I cannot believe how brain dead this community can be at times.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 16:10 GMT
#2188
On March 10 2013 01:10 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote:
Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.

First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.

But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.
Either way, I'm watching something else, this tourny had a lot of PvZ, which was fascinating, but PvT is just a boring matchup now.

Thanks for the laugh :D


We're not patch terrans, we're expansion terrans.

Much more fearsome.
ShamW0W
Profile Joined March 2010
160 Posts
March 09 2013 16:11 GMT
#2189
On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote:
People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself.


Even as a Zerg player I agree with this sentiment (No bias needed!). Glad to see a lot of the new options in HOTS are creating what is, imo, a more exciting game to watch. If any changes are made they should be made in the direction that other races get proper responses to things considered powerful rather than nerfing everything that's powerful into oblivion.
Half-Man Half-Amazing
Assirra
Profile Joined August 2010
Belgium4169 Posts
March 09 2013 16:11 GMT
#2190
Hahaha, coach Kang with hilarious rules.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 09 2013 16:11 GMT
#2191
Wow that's pretty hardcore^^, welcome to twitter Yoda .
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Archybaldie
Profile Joined June 2011
United Kingdom818 Posts
March 09 2013 16:11 GMT
#2192
On March 10 2013 01:08 essencez wrote:
First floating on 800~ adding 4 extra gates during a major engagement :\.


It can be kinda tricky in the high pressure moments to control your economy. Do you get 3 zealots now or 2 gates. If you get the 3 zealots now then you might not die. But you might lose control on your macro a few minutes down the line. Or you might not have enough gates finished when the next attack comes.
I'm in the bubblewrap league ... i just keep getting popped
Evangelist
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
1246 Posts
March 09 2013 16:11 GMT
#2193
It is telling that First just moved his ball into Yoda yet Yoda sucessfully engaged on three fronts while macroing far, far better than First.

It's not speedvacs. It's just that finally, all that drop practice and TvP skill that Terrans had to hone through years of dealing with the vastly superior Protoss deathball is finally paying off. Protoss need to adapt and need to start to play better.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#2194
On March 10 2013 01:10 Topin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:08 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote:
People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself.


His macro is incredible whilst harassing all over the place as well. As tod and apollo point out, never above 500 minerals. He's just a macro beast.



how was the game vs MVP, couldnt watch it T_T


It was a high quality tvt series, if you enjoy tvt you should watch it

Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#2195
On March 10 2013 01:10 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:10 ES.Genie wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote:
Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.

First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.

But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.
Either way, I'm watching something else, this tourny had a lot of PvZ, which was fascinating, but PvT is just a boring matchup now.

Thanks for the laugh :D


We're not patch terrans, we're expansion terrans.

Much more fearsome.


And we'll mass ghosts/bc's.
Terran & Potato Salad.
biaxiong
Profile Joined March 2011
United States180 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 16:12:51
March 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#2196
Nerfs will come look at the first IEM, speed Reaper to victory. Speed boost to victory on this IEM. Blizzard hasn't seen high enough play to make any changes before release, they might wait longer, but it'll come sooner or later. I just hope it ain't late like Infestor nerfs.
WhiteRa: More GG, more skill.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
March 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#2197
On March 10 2013 01:09 Big J wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote:
Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.

First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.

But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.


Sorry, but if you want to start a trend, you need a more catchy name. Also HotS is not a patch...


HotS has been patched numerous times, this medivac crap has only been going on since a couple weeks.
Fig
Profile Joined March 2010
United States1324 Posts
March 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#2198
On March 10 2013 00:50 Lazzi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:49 syroz wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:45 PetitCop wrote:
Those drops seem to safe vs protoss low anti air dps.


Yeah. But iam sure that stargate opener can be really relevant here. One oracle to harass, a handfull of phoenix to handle drops, VR for viking and cover colossi. They need new builds.

Right, I think Protoss need new builds. You can see that Yoda is using a HotS build whereas First is doing a WoL build. Protoss player here (just incase).

Well first of all, Yoda is actually just doing a normal MMM build with a couple early widowmines. No different from WoL except that you get much better defense early game, and you get much better aggression with speed medivacs instead of regular ones.

Those 2 things enable Yoda to snowball the game out of control and win with a 3 base timing. The new toss oracle is easily deterred by the widowmines and the mothership core does not help with defense as much as the new medivacs help with offense.
Can't elope with my cantaloupe
Misoza
Profile Joined June 2010
Australia571 Posts
March 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#2199
Personally, as a shitty terran, I feel the first nerf to speedivacs shouulf be slightly increased cooldown, also the cooldown shouulfd start when they pop from the starpor.




BUT IM BOOZED ON CANDIAN CLUB SO FUCK ITT WE OWN YOU CUNTS. Z+P=BADDIES.

User was temp banned for this post.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 09 2013 16:12 GMT
#2200
On March 10 2013 01:11 ShamW0W wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote:
People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself.


Even as a Zerg player I agree with this sentiment (No bias needed!). Glad to see a lot of the new options in HOTS are creating what is, imo, a more exciting game to watch. If any changes are made they should be made in the direction that other races get proper responses to things considered powerful rather than nerfing everything that's powerful into oblivion.


I hope that Protoss can find a way to go for phoenix to deal with the drops. If not, give phoenix 3more range and buff their speed to 8.
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