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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#2161
On March 10 2013 01:04 Glubschauge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:03 Daswollvieh wrote:
Has anybody used Oracles in IEM?


first vs dream :D


rip scv's x_x
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
mordk
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Chile8385 Posts
March 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#2162
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.

No. Players figuring things out will make them go away.
Scootaloo
Profile Joined January 2012
655 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-09 16:09:12
March 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#2163
Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.

First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.

But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.
Either way, I'm watching something else, this tourny had a lot of PvZ, which was fascinating, but PvT is just a boring matchup now.

User was temp banned for this post.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#2164
On March 10 2013 01:07 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.


What imbalances are super obvious from this series? I see First playing like trash.


But he's playing like trash because terran is imba.

User was temp banned for this post.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 09 2013 16:07 GMT
#2165
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.


First beat YoDa 2-1 on the first day...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44792 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#2166
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.


1. Like what?
2. No one knows how to play correctly yet; the game isn't even out.
3. General metagame shifts often fix small, perceived imbalances.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#2167
The other big problem with clamining balance on Speedvacs is when you have players like First playing like that (which is really badly it seems) then you can't claim it's due to balance, it's bad play. ^^
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archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#2168
I realized during the highlights replay that abedesi doesn't use 'full screen mode' that often which is something he must work on. In big battles please use that feature so that the spectators is given extra vision.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
essencez
Profile Joined February 2012
342 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#2169
First floating on 800~ adding 4 extra gates during a major engagement :\.
essence.gg - "Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try Again. Fail again. Fail better." - Samuel Beckett
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#2170
On March 10 2013 01:05 Badfatpanda wrote:
People coughing this up to mines and speed medivacs are myopic. YoDa's decision making and engagements have been great. Every time he's prevented First for going for storm flanks and has constantly denied observers and harassment while being active on the map himself.


His macro is incredible whilst harassing all over the place as well. As tod and apollo point out, never above 500 minerals. He's just a macro beast.

Exarl25
Profile Joined November 2010
1887 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#2171
On March 10 2013 01:07 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:07 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.


What imbalances are super obvious from this series? I see First playing like trash.


But he's playing like trash because terran is imba.


That's just what you want to believe. PartinG did much better against Yoda than First is.
4ZakeN87
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden1071 Posts
March 09 2013 16:08 GMT
#2172
Many terrans defending terran balance, everyone else seems more doubtfoul, weird conicidence isnt it ^^

Personally my guess would be that speed medivac and void ray will be the two first units to get nerfed, or should get at least.
"Everything should be made as simple as possible, but not simpler" Einstein
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2173
I hope yoda just goes mech next game because, why not.
Glubschauge
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria1216 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2174
On March 10 2013 01:07 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:04 Glubschauge wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:03 Daswollvieh wrote:
Has anybody used Oracles in IEM?


first vs dream :D


rip scv's x_x



was a good feeling as a protoss player :D
Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2175
On March 10 2013 01:07 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.

No. Players figuring things out will make them go away.

This! Please Blizzard don't do what you did early in WoL and blast everything with nerfs! Let the game stabilize a bit! I mean it hasn't even been fucking released yet, give people time to play around with new unit comps and strats and ways to handle them etc.

The worst thing Blizzard could do is cave into the mindless whining and nerf everything into oblivion!
"Are you talking to me? Because your authority is not recognized in fort kick ass!"" ||Park Jung Suk|| |MC|HerO|HyuN|
Sapphire.lux
Profile Joined July 2010
Romania2620 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2176
On March 10 2013 01:00 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 00:58 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:55 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:51 Sapphire.lux wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:48 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:44 Sapphire.lux wrote:
There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP lol


Complete bullshit. Name that patch. It's like this thread is full of people who have never seen a game of HotS before this.

Queen change for TvZ. There are others i'm sure.


You said TvP not TvZ. But even when talking about TvZ, if you actually believe that the queen patch had more impact on the matchup than the entirety of the HotS changes then you don't even have a functional brain.

Thank you! I am talking about what we see in this tournament of course.


What...? I give up, you have to be trolling me.



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Open the notepad and write the following:
1)First post by me (Sapphire), : There have been patchs that had a bigger impact on play then HOTS has on WOL for TvP
-patch in WOL with a bigger impact on PLAY then...
-HOTS had on TvP
2)First post by you:slight insult and asking for clarification;
3)Second post by me: clarification by example give;
4)Second post by you: reading comprehension failuire that brings further insults


Goooo Yoda!!!
Head Coach Park: "They should buff tanks!"
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2177
On March 10 2013 01:07 Scootaloo wrote:
Hilarious to see all terran screaming "SKILL" when this happens in practically every HotS PvT, turns out you basically can't lose with drops now, even if you drop badly, just scoot scoot away.

First might not be playing the best right now, but when you get constantly dropped, and even when you catch it you lose more then they do, that tends to fuck with someones nerves.

But whatever, after this tournament Blizzard will nerf all the patch-terrans.


Sorry, but if you want to start a trend, you need a more catchy name. Also HotS is not a patch...
SpikeStarcraft
Profile Joined October 2011
Germany2095 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2178
hots is number 1 on twitch.tv with 60k viewers....

yaaaaaaaaaaaaay...
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2179
On March 10 2013 01:08 Exarl25 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 10 2013 01:07 nomyx wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:07 Exarl25 wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:05 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:01 mordk wrote:
On March 10 2013 01:00 Dwayn wrote:
On March 10 2013 00:56 theBALLS wrote:
crappy, one sided finals terran is not fun to watch atm. cant wait for the next balance patch


I really hope blizzard doesn't wait too long before making some drastic balance changes.

They should wait quite a while. Rushing into balance changes made Zerg what it became in the end of WoL. They need to give players the chance to figure out ways to defeat their enemies.

No they should not, some imbalances are super obvious and waiting won't make them go away.


What imbalances are super obvious from this series? I see First playing like trash.


But he's playing like trash because terran is imba.


That's just what you want to believe. PartinG did much better against Yoda than First is.


Nope. First actually beat Yoda on the first day..
GreYMisT
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States6736 Posts
March 09 2013 16:09 GMT
#2180
I think the key here is for First to stop losing
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