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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12714 Posts
March 08 2013 14:16 GMT
#1941
On March 08 2013 23:15 mordk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 08 2013 23:04 Herect wrote:
On March 08 2013 22:56 Hylirion wrote:
On March 08 2013 22:53 ETisME wrote:
On March 08 2013 22:49 Fragile51 wrote:
On March 08 2013 22:49 FakeDeath wrote:
On March 08 2013 22:46 Gevna wrote:
On March 08 2013 22:35 Hylirion wrote:
LoL looks so unimpressive if these are the highlights. Still don't understand how it is such a viewer hit.

To be honest I completely fail to understand the hype around lol, and I've played it a lot. Yeah it's free, easy and spamming spells might be fun for few months. Actually something was funny when everybody in LR was whining about broodlords infestors being boring, and saying that's why LoL was more attractive. Well, in a LoL game nothing happens, just 10 dudes last hitting creeps. And in the end you have impressive score like 12-6 in 30 minutes. This is the real boredom.

I don't get it. LoL (beside skill ceiling)feel empty, long and there isn't real possibility of coming back. It's just pale near Dota 2 or Sc2. And I don't even want to compare it to BW or Quake.


Basically agreed with what you said.

But comebacks are more likely to happen in LOL.


Comebacks being more likely to happen isn't exactly a good thing. Them being rare is what makes them special.

I think it really depends. Just look at Dota games for example, if one team are getting denied in early farm for too long, the game is basically a slow and painful death. And the game might just be really one sided all the way till finish (and the game usually lasts like 40 mins+)
Having a BIGGER chance to come back means that we can always expect the game to change and we all waiting for that moment and see how it all reveals


But simply the graphics is what I don't understand. The animations look so weird, to me it's like everyone is slowly wobbling over the screen in LoL. I think anyone can watch 'the play'' bij Navi from Dota2 and even though they don't have a clue what is going on, it will still look impressive. But with LoL highlights I don't get that vibe at all.


You need to play a lot. You need to understand which effect every spell has. The spells don't speak by themselves. Their design is focused on create impact and express power/awesomeness. SC2 is a more elegant, though. A LOT more elegant.

SC2 needs exposure. You actually don't need to play a lot to enjoy watching. I have friends that played only the campaign and a few multiplayer games, but it still watch some tournaments. LoL doesn't have this. Everyone watching pretty much plays a lot.



I've attempted to watch LoL on many, many occasions, and play as well. And basically, I feel like LoL is Dota on an excessive dose of sleeping pills. They slowed down the game to a crawl, and in the pro scene the games really have little action. The first stage of the game is the most boring, because of no denying and how easy it is to avoid ganks when you're at least a little versed in the game. It's way too slow for me, Dota is more dynamic.

Also from a metagame standpoint, LoL is stagnant, while Dota keeps changing, which makes the picking phase and lineup analysis more interesting.

I personally find LoL early game to be more exciting than Dota. While there is no deny creep, there is constantly a fight over bush vision which I think is great
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Ramiz1989
Profile Joined July 2012
12124 Posts
March 08 2013 14:17 GMT
#1942
On March 08 2013 23:11 Psychobabas wrote:
So this is a HotS tournament with nobody making any HotS units lol. Well done Blizzard. Oh yeah medivac speed upgrade, I forgot xD

The most stupid thing you can say is "Well done Blizzard."

Yes, because Blizzard is controlling what will players do. New units aren't bad at all, players just didn't experiment with them much to know the timings, openings and how good those units really are.
"I've been to hell and back, and back to hell…and back. This time, I've brought Hell back with me."
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2013 14:18 GMT
#1943
On March 08 2013 23:16 AxionSteel wrote:
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On March 08 2013 23:15 Mowr wrote:
On March 08 2013 23:14 AxionSteel wrote:
He never made a MSC did he?


He did but it did not come out until the game was already lost.

I'm no protoss expert but I would've thought that would be an essential unit to make if you're going for a greedy build like that


you can't be greedy if you get a MsC, cuts in tech and eco at the same time. Basically the first thing to delay for as much as possible unless you want to attack with it.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
March 08 2013 14:18 GMT
#1944
On March 08 2013 23:15 Ketch wrote:
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On March 08 2013 23:14 Roqshu wrote:
On March 08 2013 23:11 Psychobabas wrote:
So this is a HotS tournament with nobody making any HotS units lol. Well done Blizzard. Oh yeah medivac speed upgrade, I forgot xD

New Ultralisks, new Medivacs, Mothership Core, Oracles (&halluzinated ones), Mines were very often used. Nearly in every longer game.
And we also have seen Viper, Swarm host, Hellbats in this tournament.



What I take from this atm is that the WoL to HoTS transition is not as big as was expected


what did you expect? That everyone was exclusively going for the 2-3 new units?
Of course people will still play mostly with the 10-15units from WoL...
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
March 08 2013 14:18 GMT
#1945
pewpewpewpew

I'm broke now ;;
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Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20327 Posts
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1946
PAIN
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45856 Posts
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1947
Hahahaha that oracle success.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-08 14:19:23
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1948
Holy pelican that thing is strong rofl
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9297 Posts
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1949
lol sting y u no pull your scvs?
You're now breathing manually
DifuntO
Profile Joined November 2011
Greece2376 Posts
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1950
Oracles are like stimmed banshees holy shit.
All I do is Stim.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9223 Posts
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1951
Finally an oracle destroying a worker line.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1952
i dont get why we see oracles every game.
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
Swiipii
Profile Joined January 2012
2195 Posts
March 08 2013 14:19 GMT
#1953
Well that's hilarious .
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33603 Posts
March 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#1954
wow if he had the 3rd oracle, this would ahve been hilariously one sided
AdministratorHey HP can you redo everything youve ever done because i have a small complaint?
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
March 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#1955
wow oracles so good
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#1956
Dream totally misreading the game
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FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
March 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#1957
On March 08 2013 23:11 Psychobabas wrote:
So this is a HotS tournament with nobody making any HotS units lol. Well done Blizzard. Oh yeah medivac speed upgrade, I forgot xD


Had to happen after this comment.
liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
March 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#1958
wow the oracle is a great tool to use for breaking bunkers rather than relying on good forcefields.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Talionis
Profile Joined November 2010
Scotland4085 Posts
March 08 2013 14:20 GMT
#1959
lololoracles.

Pretty good unit
kyllinghest
Profile Joined December 2011
Norway1607 Posts
March 08 2013 14:21 GMT
#1960
Those oracles would have melted so fast if they had been targeted. Such a weird game from Dream.
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