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Game 1 bad mana, Game 2 good mana Game 3 ???
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On March 06 2013 19:04 nomyx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there. Looks incredibly strong vs mech It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks. I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit. I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/ If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects? I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me. it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks. Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end.. I don't know why anyone would want to go mech in non-TvT now
Mech is strong tvz if used properly, also mechs good tvp from what I have seen :O. Well in tvz that's what top zergs say, but I personally don't struggle vs mech xD
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On March 06 2013 19:06 Qikz wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:04 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there. Looks incredibly strong vs mech It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks. I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit. I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/ If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects? I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me. it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks. Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end.. I don't know why anyone would want to go mech in non-TvT now Mech is still good vs zerg, but Sting wasn't prepared for the vipers at all (you need turrets infront of your tanks and have your tanks further back with hellbats to buffer) and he was also down 80 supply. Mech is also good in TvP but none of the Korean terrans are using it currently.
Byun went mass Siege tank widow mine vs a protoss teammate (probably creator) the other day during the Gisado KOTH. Byun absolutely wrecked him.
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wow I really wanted to see that 3rd game...
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On March 06 2013 19:06 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there. Looks incredibly strong vs mech It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks. I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit. I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/ If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects? I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me. it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks. Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end.. I am pretty sure terrans will stop making PF vs zergs. They have mines/hell bats to deal with ling runbys. And in large engagements, they will get clouded. So might as well make planetary and get more eco.
Hellbats and Mines cost supply....
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Snute looked kind of inexperienced using the swarm hosts, he didn't move them back after releasing locust and overall positioned them kind of weird.
Otherwise his play looks great imo, love the constant runbys.
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On March 06 2013 19:07 Scrubwave wrote: Terrible play by Snute.
BO-loss. double Robo against someone who doesn't turtle to Hive is a freewin for Protoss.
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On March 06 2013 19:04 nomyx wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote: Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there. Looks incredibly strong vs mech It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks. I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit. I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/ If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects? I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me. it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks. Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end.. I don't know why anyone would want to go mech in non-TvT now
Give it some time. Good Terrans are going to do miracles with Widow Mines, Hellbats, energy-less Thors, free Siege Mode and shared upgrades.. It is just completely different story for 9/10 Terrans to go mech now in TvP and TvZ...
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is there a link to get the replays ? can't find them on IEM website :s
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Snute looks like he's about to fall asleep any time now :D
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Pandemona
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On March 06 2013 19:07 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:Game 1 bad mana, Game 2 good mana Game 3 ??? 
Close
Game 1 Bad Mana Game 2 Bad Snute Game 3 ......
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WTF Nathanias has the worst luck of any caster ever. So sorry for him
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On March 06 2013 19:08 Big J wrote:BO-loss. double Robo against someone who doesn't turtle to Hive is a freewin for Protoss.
Disagree. That was bad play from snute, he lost half his swarmhosts so fast. Corruptor/swarmhost/hydra is strong vs that composition that mana did.
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On March 06 2013 19:07 Fragile51 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:06 Qikz wrote:On March 06 2013 19:04 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote: [quote] Looks incredibly strong vs mech It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks. I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit. I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/ If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects? I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me. it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks. Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end.. I don't know why anyone would want to go mech in non-TvT now Mech is still good vs zerg, but Sting wasn't prepared for the vipers at all (you need turrets infront of your tanks and have your tanks further back with hellbats to buffer) and he was also down 80 supply. Mech is also good in TvP but none of the Korean terrans are using it currently. Byun went mass Siege tank widow mine vs a protoss teammate (probably creator) the other day during the Gisado KOTH. Byun absolutely wrecked him.
Protoss wrecked himself you big liar
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On March 06 2013 19:08 Pandemona wrote:Show nested quote +On March 06 2013 19:07 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:Game 1 bad mana, Game 2 good mana Game 3 ???  Close Game 1 Bad Mana Game 2 Bad Snute Game 3 ......
Aye, I think you are right I was distracted by that Violet game.
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Analysis desk: please look at the camera more
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goddamnit. I wait 2 damn hours for a series I can't even see the conclusion of. So stupid
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There sooooo much delay between games. Blah.
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