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Account252508
Profile Joined February 2012
3454 Posts
March 06 2013 20:25 GMT
#1381
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AimlessAmoeba
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada704 Posts
March 06 2013 20:31 GMT
#1382
Excited for Day 3. Talk about a group of death.

Hope to see Grubby and TLO do well, although it's going to be tough. Stephano, MVP and Golden will probably run the top three through.
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 20:33:53
March 06 2013 20:33 GMT
#1383
Scarlett was good before but the patch enhanced her strengths, spreading creep was made easier, queens were made better, she thrives on map control. So kind of a patchzerg made her Code B level but if not for patch she would be in the hunt anyway.

Results up to this point <Balance Report> SPOILERS

T+ Show Spoiler +
ERRAN W9-L11 GW24-GL26

Koreans(2) 7-3 17-8

Player AVG 6W 6.5L

ZERG W14-L21 GW35-GL48

Player AVG 5W 6.85L

Violet W5-0L 10GW-3GL


PROTOSS W22-L13 GW50-GL34

Korean(4) W15 L5

Player AVG 7.14W 4.85L

Trends: Foreigners have a losing record in all races. The best statistical player in YongHwa. Violet is a close second as Zerg. Without Violet Zerg would have a 9-21 record. Zerg went from 5.66 games won per player to 5 after yesterday.

Zerg are only 4-10 vs. Protoss.
Zerg are 4-4 vs. Terran
Terran are 4-6 vs. Protoss

Korean Protoss dominance shines through however PvZ may be considerably in trouble. ZvT is balanced. TvP is a bit off-kilter but may be Korean feeding off 2 foreigner more than game balance.
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
tomatriedes
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
New Zealand5356 Posts
March 06 2013 21:31 GMT
#1384
Surprised and impressed to see Mana managed to beat Vortix and Snute.
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
March 06 2013 21:42 GMT
#1385
Man I thought Socke was going to get out after he was 2 - 0 and Sting was 0 - 2 down. WP by Sting !
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
March 06 2013 22:10 GMT
#1386
On March 07 2013 05:33 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Scarlett was good before but the patch enhanced her strengths, spreading creep was made easier, queens were made better, she thrives on map control. So kind of a patchzerg made her Code B level but if not for patch she would be in the hunt anyway.

Results up to this point <Balance Report> SPOILERS

+ Show Spoiler +


TERRAN W9-L11 GW24-GL26

Koreans(2) 7-3 17-8

Player AVG 6W 6.5L

ZERG W14-L21 GW35-GL48

Player AVG 5W 6.85L

Violet W5-0L 10GW-3GL


PROTOSS W22-L13 GW50-GL34

Korean(4) W15 L5

Player AVG 7.14W 4.85L

Trends: Foreigners have a losing record in all races. The best statistical player in YongHwa. Violet is a close second as Zerg. Without Violet Zerg would have a 9-21 record. Zerg went from 5.66 games won per player to 5 after yesterday.

Zerg are only 4-10 vs. Protoss.
Zerg are 4-4 vs. Terran
Terran are 4-6 vs. Protoss

Korean Protoss dominance shines through however PvZ may be considerably in trouble. ZvT is balanced. TvP is a bit off-kilter but may be Korean feeding off 2 foreigner more than game balance.


Thanks for the work putting those numbers together. They say very little so far due to the number, but it's always useful to have them to think about.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
Sumahi
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Guam5609 Posts
March 06 2013 22:48 GMT
#1387
I've been traveling the past two days and I'm so behind on IEM. Golden is playing today and so now IEM you have my full attention.
Startale <3, ST_July <3, HongUn <3, Savior <3, Gretorp <3, Nada <3, Rainbow <3, Ret <3, Squirtle <3, Bomber <3
Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
March 06 2013 23:05 GMT
#1388
On March 07 2013 07:10 Ghanburighan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 07 2013 05:33 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Scarlett was good before but the patch enhanced her strengths, spreading creep was made easier, queens were made better, she thrives on map control. So kind of a patchzerg made her Code B level but if not for patch she would be in the hunt anyway.

Results up to this point <Balance Report> SPOILERS

+ Show Spoiler +


TERRAN W9-L11 GW24-GL26

Koreans(2) 7-3 17-8

Player AVG 6W 6.5L

ZERG W14-L21 GW35-GL48

Player AVG 5W 6.85L

Violet W5-0L 10GW-3GL


PROTOSS W22-L13 GW50-GL34

Korean(4) W15 L5

Player AVG 7.14W 4.85L

Trends: Foreigners have a losing record in all races. The best statistical player in YongHwa. Violet is a close second as Zerg. Without Violet Zerg would have a 9-21 record. Zerg went from 5.66 games won per player to 5 after yesterday.

Zerg are only 4-10 vs. Protoss.
Zerg are 4-4 vs. Terran
Terran are 4-6 vs. Protoss

Korean Protoss dominance shines through however PvZ may be considerably in trouble. ZvT is balanced. TvP is a bit off-kilter but may be Korean feeding off 2 foreigner more than game balance.


Thanks for the work putting those numbers together. They say very little so far due to the number, but it's always useful to have them to think about.


apart from the few numbers , Violet went 5-0 STOMPING the protosses in his group , dont think the state of plays now is indicative of overpowered stuff , just some people playing the game much better than others because of being more familiar with it.
arvinds94
Profile Joined April 2012
United States40 Posts
March 06 2013 23:15 GMT
#1389
Ma boy viOLet doin work. as always. i see him dominating the rest of the tournament as well
viOlet
juicyjames *
Profile Joined August 2011
United States3815 Posts
March 06 2013 23:26 GMT
#1390
Any recommended games?
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CosmicSpiral
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States15275 Posts
March 06 2013 23:30 GMT
#1391
Hmmm, is mass mutalisks in ZvZ the trend in HotS?
WriterWovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen.
Zealot Lord
Profile Joined May 2010
Hong Kong747 Posts
March 06 2013 23:33 GMT
#1392
On March 07 2013 03:09 monkybone wrote:
Oh man, the Zergs Snute, Vortix, Slivko and Xlord getting the four worst results so far in this tournament. I'm not gonna say anything, but this is somehow an appropriate start for HotS... At least morally.


I didn't watch any of the Xlord games so I can't comment - but Snute & Vortix played beyond bad in almost all their games yesterday. I'm not sure if it was just an off day, being shaken by the new metagame, lack of recent practice or what, but they really looked like normal ladder players rather than progamers. However, confusing play is sort of to be expected with so many new things to learn in HOTS.

Also while I admit I feel that some of their results in WoL were boosted by the strength of the race, I don't think its fair to say "this totally proves that they are patchzergs!" just because they are struggling in HOTS right now, not everyone is going to adjust as quickly to the new metagame. Especially for players like Vortix/Slivko who almost always went infestor/broodlord in WoL, I feel like they will have longer adjustment periods. If later on the balance of the game is considered relatively good, and yet they struggle mightily, only then can we say that perhaps they did make their living off of an imbalanced composition.

Meatloaf
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Spain664 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 23:42:50
March 06 2013 23:41 GMT
#1393
On March 07 2013 08:26 juicyjames wrote:
Any recommended games?


Violet vs Socke after seeing Snute vs Socke , shocked me as how Violet approached ZvP in contrast to Snute.
thepuppyassassin
Profile Joined April 2011
900 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-07 02:53:45
March 07 2013 02:52 GMT
#1394
lol sting was sweating during the interview after beating Socke. He made something up on the spot. "For this match I watched the replay by myself." followed by a long pause and "my girlfriend told me" when nothing came to mind.

No doubt the first part is true, but his tone was very defensive.

Nothing wrong with congregating with fellow high level players who speak your language to discuss strategy, but the way the question was framed and even translated, sounded almost accusatory of foul play, which is why he answered like he was being put on the stand.
Heouf
Profile Joined March 2012
Netherlands787 Posts
March 07 2013 15:04 GMT
#1395
genius zerg? are you kidding me? Never seen or heard him be named that. That guy must be making stuff up.
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