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AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
March 06 2013 09:59 GMT
#321
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I'm not feeling the feeding/killing of own buildings though. Does it work on creep tumors? That would be a good snack, methinks.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 06 2013 09:59 GMT
#322
On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects?


I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#323
On March 06 2013 18:58 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:56 Laryleprakon wrote:
So many average games


I'm sure we'll get some better games from the quarterfinals onwards when all the Koreans have to play are each other.


Hopefully, we had some good games yesterday. It really is showing who played a lot of HOTS + the skill gap between a lot of these guys.
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
March 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#324
Vintage WoL Sting TvZ this
WoodLeagueAllStar
Profile Joined August 2012
United States806 Posts
March 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#325
Wow this Violet game is still going?
In 1984, I was hospitalized for approaching perfection. --Random Rules
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#326
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


We'll see how the balance works when Terrans start sniping and using emp on them. It'll be interesting to see how Zerg use Vipers to double-pull and cloud Protoss.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
March 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#327
On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects?


I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me.

it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#328
On March 06 2013 18:59 AlternativeEgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I'm not feeling the feeding/killing of own buildings though. Does it work on creep tumors? That would be a good snack, methinks.


They wanted to make the unit similar to the defiler but different

so instead of eating zerglings you siphon the bug juice out of buildings

Also, sting's marine micro. wow
DJHelium
Profile Joined December 2010
Sweden13480 Posts
March 06 2013 10:01 GMT
#329
Does locust benefit from upgrades?
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Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
March 06 2013 10:02 GMT
#330
--- Nuked ---
Giriath
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden2412 Posts
March 06 2013 10:03 GMT
#331
On March 06 2013 19:01 DJHelium wrote:
Does locust benefit from upgrades?


They do.
Education should be our seniors guiding us to be "who" we want to be, not "what" we want to be.
furo
Profile Joined March 2012
Germany449 Posts
March 06 2013 10:03 GMT
#332
On March 06 2013 19:01 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Wow this Violet game is still going?

sting messed up the engagements but was superfar ahead in macro
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 06 2013 10:03 GMT
#333
On March 06 2013 19:01 Giriath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


We'll see how the balance works when Terrans start sniping and using emp on them. It'll be interesting to see how Zerg use Vipers to double-pull and cloud Protoss.


Yeah, sniping them with Vikings kinda works.. Sting was just late on Vikings. But I've experienced good players just pulling 3/4 vikings at once into hydras and then you are exposed to Vipers again. I think it requires large number of widow mines to hold ground vs it.
Everlong
Profile Joined April 2010
Czech Republic1973 Posts
March 06 2013 10:03 GMT
#334
On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects?


I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me.

it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks.


Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end..
graNite
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany4434 Posts
March 06 2013 10:04 GMT
#335
snute should go for mass muta again, there is almost no anti air except the phoenixes
"Oink oink, bitches" - Tasteless on Pigbaby winning a map against Flash
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 06 2013 10:04 GMT
#336
On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects?


I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me.

it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks.


Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end..


I don't know why anyone would want to go mech in non-TvT now
Pandemona *
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Charlie Sheens House51485 Posts
March 06 2013 10:05 GMT
#337
Lolzipop. Snute just killed himself. Mana the favorite now some how xD
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Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12022 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 10:06:49
March 06 2013 10:06 GMT
#338
On March 06 2013 19:04 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects?


I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me.

it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks.


Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end..


I don't know why anyone would want to go mech in non-TvT now


Mech is still good vs zerg, but Sting wasn't prepared for the vipers at all (you need turrets infront of your tanks and have your tanks further back with hellbats to buffer) and he was also down 80 supply.

Mech is also good in TvP but none of the Korean terrans are using it currently.
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nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 06 2013 10:06 GMT
#339
Dropped again

Lol
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-06 10:11:49
March 06 2013 10:06 GMT
#340
On March 06 2013 19:03 Everlong wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2013 19:01 Insoleet wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:59 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:58 nomyx wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:57 Everlong wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:56 Asha` wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:55 AxionSteel wrote:
On March 06 2013 18:53 WoodLeagueAllStar wrote:
Blinding Cloud is so good, even works on PF's, that element may even be OP but I won't go there its just a good ability. Took forever but I think Zergs will be using it so much now. Violet showed us right there.

Looks incredibly strong vs mech


It is just another nail in the coffin of tanks.

I can't begrudge it though, Viper is the best designed and most interesting new unit.


I think, Cloud working on PF is too much.. I mean, you can diseable all tanks and just overrun everything with hydra/roach.. Even if there is good split on Tanks (as Sting had). Isn't it overkill that you can't even defend your PF? :/


If it works against PF, it should work against missile turrets, corrects?


I'm not sure, I haven't seen Cloud used on my Turrets once in my beta games. I think it doesn't work on Missile Turrets. It Seems kinda like bug that it works on PF to me.

it does work on turrets actually. good support to mutalisks.


Wow, really? ... Man, good Zergs are going to abuse it on PF and Turrets to no end..


I am pretty sure terrans will stop making PF vs zergs. They have mines/hell bats to deal with ling runbys. And in large engagements, they will get clouded. So might as well make oribitals and get more eco.
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