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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2013 13:41 GMT
#1441
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.
Zest fanboy.
R3m3mb3rM3
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany954 Posts
March 05 2013 13:41 GMT
#1442
On March 05 2013 22:38 ZenithM wrote:
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On March 05 2013 22:35 Ghanburighan wrote:
Wtf is a "semi-allin"!

That's when a caster doesn't want to go all-in on his prediction because he doesn't really know what's going on.


actually Id say it has to to damage or else your dead. But it doesnt have to end the game cause you can transition out of it.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 13:41 GMT
#1443
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.


Let's not forget he had the colossus ahead of the HT so a yank would have been pretty easy to accomplish


Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1444
On March 05 2013 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
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On March 05 2013 22:34 Grumbels wrote:
omg whoever posted that pic on the last page should be shot, it's so disturbing

grow up.

OT: Air Toss in the hands of non-foreigners looks quite strong i guess :D. I am really looking forward if any cheese builds will shown them selves in later stages of this tourny.

maybe I have a phobia, but I saw that image and instantly screamed and fell out of my chair just.. yuck
Well, now I tell you, I never seen good come o' goodness yet. Him as strikes first is my fancy; dead men don't bite; them's my views--amen, so be it.
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1445
I bet Parting will lose his stalker. He always loses his stalker.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
Scrubwave
Profile Joined July 2010
Poland1786 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1446
--- Nuked ---
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1447
cya nerd
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1448
esl twitch lags like a whore for anyone?
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1449
20 lings to deal with 2 stalkers?
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1450
On March 05 2013 22:41 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.


Let's not forget he had the colossus ahead of the HT so a yank would have been pretty easy to accomplish




which means late game PvZ micro might be more than neural/vortex :p
Zest fanboy.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12396 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1451
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.

it's quite hard while HTs ready to feedback and colossus are shooting lazers...lol
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Aunvilgod
Profile Joined December 2011
2653 Posts
March 05 2013 13:42 GMT
#1452
Told you.
ilovegroov | Blizzards mapmaker(s?) suck ass | #1 Protoss hater
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
March 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#1453
On March 05 2013 22:42 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 Grumbels wrote:
omg whoever posted that pic on the last page should be shot, it's so disturbing

grow up.

OT: Air Toss in the hands of non-foreigners looks quite strong i guess :D. I am really looking forward if any cheese builds will shown them selves in later stages of this tourny.

maybe I have a phobia, but I saw that image and instantly screamed and fell out of my chair just.. yuck

lolwat
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
Lysanias
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands8351 Posts
March 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#1454
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.


We can keep doing this But as some one posted above, Colosi counter that again.
You are correct Slivko is not the right example to use, but i don't think we have zergs with that kind of control yet.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#1455
On March 05 2013 22:42 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.



How many zergs throughout wotl showed micro capabilities?
You could probably count them all with one hand with 2 fingers cut off.


life/leenock/drg/stephano.
Deal. :D
Zest fanboy.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 13:45:13
March 05 2013 13:43 GMT
#1456
On March 05 2013 22:42 Scrubwave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.



How many zergs throughout wotl showed micro capabilities?
You could probably count them all with one hand with 2 fingers cut off.


HotS is going to be good for zergs; it will allow the great ones to separate themselves from the expansion zergs with great decision making and high level micro. The later is something that was lacking severely in WoL. As Artosis said on State of the Game a lot of zerg players will fall off the map and we will have to wait and see which ones do and which ones rise from the ashes.
Lukeeze[zR]
Profile Joined February 2006
Switzerland6838 Posts
March 05 2013 13:44 GMT
#1457
On March 05 2013 22:42 Grumbels wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:37 gingerfluffmuff wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 Grumbels wrote:
omg whoever posted that pic on the last page should be shot, it's so disturbing

grow up.

OT: Air Toss in the hands of non-foreigners looks quite strong i guess :D. I am really looking forward if any cheese builds will shown them selves in later stages of this tourny.

maybe I have a phobia, but I saw that image and instantly screamed and fell out of my chair just.. yuck


AlternativeEgo's image (last page) is a lot creepier, I think i pooped a litlle bit
Terran & Potato Salad.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
March 05 2013 13:44 GMT
#1458
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown). +6 damage doesn't seem like a lot, but the void ray attacks every .6 seconds (faster than marine)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Actually their attack speed got buffed too with hots, it_s now 0.5 -.-.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2013 13:45 GMT
#1459
On March 05 2013 22:43 Lysanias wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.


We can keep doing this But as some one posted above, Colosi counter that again.
You are correct Slivko is not the right example to use, but i don't think we have zergs with that kind of control yet.


On March 05 2013 22:42 ETisME wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 22:41 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:39 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:38 dainbramage wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:37 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:34 tenacity wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:32 Lysanias wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:31 nomyx wrote:
On March 05 2013 22:30 tenacity wrote:
are voidrays stronger in hots?


they have an active ability that gives them +6 damage vs armored for 20 seconds (1 minute cooldown)

but they cost 4 supply in HotS, only 3 in WoL.


Hell yes they are, is the right awnser.


so wouldnt be hydras (not armored i guess?) very good against voidrays in combination with infestors and vipers to snipe collossi ?


Vipers die to fast to voidrays

All they need to do is get within 9 range of a colossus and yank...


If Parting didnt have HT's maybe.


you can fungle HTs. it's all about micro, something Slivko didn't really show.

it's quite hard while HTs ready to feedback and colossus are shooting lazers...lol


it's just a micro battle and considering the speed of HTs i'm not sure P have the better deal here.
Let's wait for life :p
Zest fanboy.
DOUDOU
Profile Joined October 2011
Wales2940 Posts
March 05 2013 13:45 GMT
#1460
On March 05 2013 22:42 Arceus wrote:
esl twitch lags like a whore for anyone?

nor my twitch stream nor my whores lags at all
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