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imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#1241
On March 05 2013 21:56 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Hmm goes to show that Zerg is just pretty much worse early game because there's nothing new they can take advantage of while e.g. Phoenixes are much better now.


not like it's a real problem as long as it doesn't dramastically improve the efficiency of some P 2b all ins.
Zest fanboy.
coL.hendralisk
Profile Joined September 2009
Zimbabwe1756 Posts
March 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#1242
On March 05 2013 21:56 LimitSEA wrote:
Mutas vs 2 stargate and fleet beacon.


Uh oh
CCa1ss1e
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3231 Posts
March 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#1243
anion pulse crystals.. what a name eh? gg blizzard.
~ The Ultimate Weapon
Swordland
Profile Joined March 2013
232 Posts
March 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#1244
lol wat happened to apollo?

I heard Group B has started guys
MarcH
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom362 Posts
March 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#1245
On March 05 2013 21:53 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 21:52 Gevna wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:46 HotShizz wrote:
yeah i agree with a lot of the sentiments about lack of HotS units. I mean, for all of the vipers, swarm hosts, etc. there is a lot of muta into bl corruptor deathball v deathball. It's still early for the game, so people are just doing what they know, I guess, but I feel like this breaking up the deathball plan has been pure fail so far. again, still early, but I feel underwhelmed.

I feel it's only true for protoss. I'm really sad that protoss still revolves (and more than before) around deathball. MSC and tempest are just designed to be used in deathball. I've good faith in other matchups.


sky T is a deathball too, and the best comp a T can get. So don't get too much hopes.

Thing is sky T is really hard to get too. It can be done but is really really difficult
Kergy
Profile Joined December 2010
Peru2011 Posts
March 05 2013 12:57 GMT
#1246
Great results, have there been good games?
Everyday Girl's Day~!
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
March 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#1247
On March 05 2013 21:57 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 21:56 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Hmm goes to show that Zerg is just pretty much worse early game because there's nothing new they can take advantage of while e.g. Phoenixes are much better now.


not like it's a real problem as long as it doesn't dramastically improve the efficiency of some P 2b all ins.


It is a real problem. Phoenix openings have always been viable, +1 range is a huge upgrade when it come down to it.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#1248
Mannnn, Phoenix vs Mutas with the range upgrade is pretty awesome/gruesome looking.
Long live the King of Wings
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
March 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#1249
On March 05 2013 21:57 MarcH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 21:53 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:52 Gevna wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:46 HotShizz wrote:
yeah i agree with a lot of the sentiments about lack of HotS units. I mean, for all of the vipers, swarm hosts, etc. there is a lot of muta into bl corruptor deathball v deathball. It's still early for the game, so people are just doing what they know, I guess, but I feel like this breaking up the deathball plan has been pure fail so far. again, still early, but I feel underwhelmed.

I feel it's only true for protoss. I'm really sad that protoss still revolves (and more than before) around deathball. MSC and tempest are just designed to be used in deathball. I've good faith in other matchups.


sky T is a deathball too, and the best comp a T can get. So don't get too much hopes.

Thing is sky T is really hard to get too. It can be done but is really really difficult


it's more map dependant than hard to get.
Zest fanboy.
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
March 05 2013 12:58 GMT
#1250
What a bright idea get mutas againts phoenixes.
Give thanks and praise!
DasHawk
Profile Joined August 2010
Denmark362 Posts
March 05 2013 12:59 GMT
#1251
Gotta love the mass phoenix
Qikz
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United Kingdom12042 Posts
March 05 2013 12:59 GMT
#1252
Nerchio is playing so badly.

He saw the phoenixs super early and still went mutas. What the?
FanTaSy's #1 Fan | STPL Caster/Organiser | SKT BEST KT | https://twitch.tv/stpl
imallinson
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United Kingdom3482 Posts
March 05 2013 12:59 GMT
#1253
On March 05 2013 21:57 CCa1ss1e wrote:
anion pulse crystals.. what a name eh? gg blizzard.

Well obviously if you negatively charge crystals it makes them fire further, makes perfect sense. :p
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LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
March 05 2013 12:59 GMT
#1254
YongHwaaaa, you beast. Lookin' good man.
Long live the King of Wings
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-05 13:00:24
March 05 2013 12:59 GMT
#1255
On March 05 2013 21:58 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 21:57 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:56 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Hmm goes to show that Zerg is just pretty much worse early game because there's nothing new they can take advantage of while e.g. Phoenixes are much better now.


not like it's a real problem as long as it doesn't dramastically improve the efficiency of some P 2b all ins.


It is a real problem. Phoenix openings have always been viable, +1 range is a huge upgrade when it come down to it.


so viable that they were rarely seen since it delays a lot the 3rd of the P without doing too much damage in WoL.
Zest fanboy.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
March 05 2013 12:59 GMT
#1256
Yougwha!!
FancyCaTSC2
Profile Joined February 2013
56 Posts
March 05 2013 13:00 GMT
#1257
Seems like phoenix needs the same range as in WOL again (4 and 6 with upgrade) Saw so many games like this on streams already
Thrillz
Profile Joined May 2012
4313 Posts
March 05 2013 13:01 GMT
#1258
Still going mutas after seeing that many phoenixes =\
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
March 05 2013 13:01 GMT
#1259
On March 05 2013 21:59 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2013 21:58 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:57 sAsImre wrote:
On March 05 2013 21:56 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Hmm goes to show that Zerg is just pretty much worse early game because there's nothing new they can take advantage of while e.g. Phoenixes are much better now.


not like it's a real problem as long as it doesn't dramastically improve the efficiency of some P 2b all ins.


It is a real problem. Phoenix openings have always been viable, +1 range is a huge upgrade when it come down to it.


so viable that they were rarely seen since it delays a lot the 3rd of the P without doing too much damage in WoL.


Phoenix openings seriously cannot be considered rare in WoL. I hope you're kidding.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
kafkaesque
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
Germany2006 Posts
March 05 2013 13:01 GMT
#1260
I'm deliriously happy that the most interesting group for me personally will be played on Thursday, the day that is most convenient for me. Grubby, TLO, Stephano and MVP in the same group? Fuck me sideways...
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