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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12888 Posts
February 15 2013 12:02 GMT
#1021
leave your comments in this thread:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=395920
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 15 2013 12:02 GMT
#1022
On February 15 2013 21:00 totauksz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 20:55 sAsImre wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:52 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:49 sAsImre wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:47 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:35 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:30 liberate71 wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:28 BLinD-RawR wrote:
to be honest in starcraft the truest test of skill has always been a Bo5 not Bo7


Bullshit. HyuN. King of the world due to B09's



not bullshit, I know what i'm talking about.:/

Bo7s are tiring Bo9's are worse.

Bo5 pushes players to the limit without completely exhausting them by the time they reach Game 5.


i'm not sure the tiring effect of a best of 9 should be understood as a disadvantage for players who practice 12 hours a day. it even requires a different kind of skillshet because you're not likely to win as big bart of your games with weird builds and gimmicks.

Hyun beat everyone with solid macro that is really impressive


weird builds and gimmicks are a part of the game, you can't always hang on your good macro, limiting the series to a Bo5 gives you the best of everything, it gives you a chance to do a whole lot more even with what seems less.

its a completely different feeling being in the booth than in the practice house I can assure you that.


no. you don't have a solid argument just the misty " it gives you a chance to do a whole lot more even with what seems less"

best of 5s are only good for people who can prepare 3 really good builds that rely on being unpredicted, and that's it.

the longer the series are the more players rely on fundamentals and i'm cool with that since you can cheese as much as you want there too but the opponent has the chance to get to read your style.

and no stamina is not a problem to these guys, if they have nerve issues that's a different matter. a day of mlg is a hundred times more exhausting than best of 9 series. doesn't matter which booth they're in, if they have nerve issues they have them while playing in best of 3s and best of 243212331s either.


the longer the series goes, the more closer to ladder games it will be. That's why weekly tournament don't differ to ladder in term of builds/gameplay and that people who're excellent on the ladder (and zergs) are really good at them.


it's not the length, it's the ability to know who you're playing. even if it's a best of 31 you can prepare 16 builds if you have the time and put the effort in... nothing like in a ladder game.


you're example is so bad because despite being totally unrealistic (or give them 3months to prepare the final) you still have 15ladder builds if you play the 31games.
Just look at the IPL fightclub there are almost 0 specific strats prepared.


it's not like you can't make plans if you have to play more than 5 games. for a good creative player making plans for 9 game should be no problem.

you have absolutely no idea btw which of these games involves a lot of preparation so you're just arguing kinda out of your ass, sorry. every season some players say in interviews that they only rely on their fundamentals, i recall Squirtle saying this and others too. so what the heck is your point? apparently some players prepare map specific builds and others just rely on their fundamentals, every game is "ladder game" for them. and if a player can prepare 3 killer builds for a best of 5 he can do that for a best of 9 too, that's 3 wins in both series.


and 2ladder games in 1, 6 in the other. which is just my point, the longer the series goes, the closer to ladder games it'll look like.
Zest fanboy.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
February 15 2013 12:02 GMT
#1023
B4 prob shitting his pants right now
Refer to my post.
DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
February 15 2013 12:02 GMT
#1024
On February 15 2013 21:01 Vapaach wrote:
Void rays.. why would you start producing one of the most useless units in the game?

you already made carriers?
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2013 12:02 GMT
#1025
That army will probably deal a bit of damage
AdministratorBreak the chains
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
February 15 2013 12:03 GMT
#1026
I've never seen so much air units lol
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
February 15 2013 12:03 GMT
#1027
Tasteless is right, Starship Troopers 2 was fucking terrible, and 3 was bad too
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Korea (South)2437 Posts
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1028
I watched that movie until 5 minutes before code s today O_O
Progamer
Breach_hu
Profile Joined August 2009
Hungary2431 Posts
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1029
Parting will die, i am sorry to tell you this. BYE BYE!
Give thanks and praise!
MapleLeafSirup
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany950 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 12:04:44
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1030
On February 15 2013 21:02 DusTerr wrote:
Void rays.. why would you start producing one of the most useless units in the game?


Seems like you haven't watched MC's PVZ for quite some time
totauksz
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Ghana190 Posts
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1031
On February 15 2013 21:02 sAsImre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 21:00 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:55 sAsImre wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:52 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:49 sAsImre wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:47 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:35 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:30 liberate71 wrote:
[quote]

Bullshit. HyuN. King of the world due to B09's



not bullshit, I know what i'm talking about.:/

Bo7s are tiring Bo9's are worse.

Bo5 pushes players to the limit without completely exhausting them by the time they reach Game 5.


i'm not sure the tiring effect of a best of 9 should be understood as a disadvantage for players who practice 12 hours a day. it even requires a different kind of skillshet because you're not likely to win as big bart of your games with weird builds and gimmicks.

Hyun beat everyone with solid macro that is really impressive


weird builds and gimmicks are a part of the game, you can't always hang on your good macro, limiting the series to a Bo5 gives you the best of everything, it gives you a chance to do a whole lot more even with what seems less.

its a completely different feeling being in the booth than in the practice house I can assure you that.


no. you don't have a solid argument just the misty " it gives you a chance to do a whole lot more even with what seems less"

best of 5s are only good for people who can prepare 3 really good builds that rely on being unpredicted, and that's it.

the longer the series are the more players rely on fundamentals and i'm cool with that since you can cheese as much as you want there too but the opponent has the chance to get to read your style.

and no stamina is not a problem to these guys, if they have nerve issues that's a different matter. a day of mlg is a hundred times more exhausting than best of 9 series. doesn't matter which booth they're in, if they have nerve issues they have them while playing in best of 3s and best of 243212331s either.


the longer the series goes, the more closer to ladder games it will be. That's why weekly tournament don't differ to ladder in term of builds/gameplay and that people who're excellent on the ladder (and zergs) are really good at them.


it's not the length, it's the ability to know who you're playing. even if it's a best of 31 you can prepare 16 builds if you have the time and put the effort in... nothing like in a ladder game.


you're example is so bad because despite being totally unrealistic (or give them 3months to prepare the final) you still have 15ladder builds if you play the 31games.
Just look at the IPL fightclub there are almost 0 specific strats prepared.


it's not like you can't make plans if you have to play more than 5 games. for a good creative player making plans for 9 game should be no problem.

you have absolutely no idea btw which of these games involves a lot of preparation so you're just arguing kinda out of your ass, sorry. every season some players say in interviews that they only rely on their fundamentals, i recall Squirtle saying this and others too. so what the heck is your point? apparently some players prepare map specific builds and others just rely on their fundamentals, every game is "ladder game" for them. and if a player can prepare 3 killer builds for a best of 5 he can do that for a best of 9 too, that's 3 wins in both series.


and 2ladder games in 1, 6 in the other. which is just my point, the longer the series goes, the closer to ladder games it'll look like.



my point was that to some players every game is close to a ladder game so really don't know what you wanna say with that

and btw, if the series reward the ability to prepare builds, why shouldn't they reward the ability to have more solid fundamentals or the ability to adapt? longer series makes it only more fair.
Azurues
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia5612 Posts
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1032
HoTs sky toss is gonna be ultra ridiculous
nkr
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Sweden5451 Posts
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1033
tasteless ON FIRE
ESPORTS ILLUMINATI
Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo
Profile Joined March 2010
Germany2959 Posts
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1034
On February 15 2013 21:03 Die4Ever wrote:
Tasteless is right, Starship Troopers 2 was fucking terrible, and 3 was bad too


Just recently saw the first one because I always thought it was a complete bullshit movie but "so bad it's good".

But man was I pleased, super corny style but kinda awesome.
WrathBringerReturns said: No no no. Sarcasm is detected in the voice. When this forum is riddled with stupidity, you think I can tell every post apart? Fair enough it was intended sarcastically, was it obvious? Of course not.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2013 12:04 GMT
#1035
Sometimes Tastosis go overboard, but usually they're pretty fucking hilarious
AdministratorBreak the chains
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
February 15 2013 12:05 GMT
#1036
Artosis and Tasteless are hilarious today. Must be the weather.
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
February 15 2013 12:05 GMT
#1037
Why even have more than 4 Brood Lords? It's pure air.
I love crazymoving
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
February 15 2013 12:05 GMT
#1038
On February 15 2013 21:04 Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 21:03 Die4Ever wrote:
Tasteless is right, Starship Troopers 2 was fucking terrible, and 3 was bad too


Just recently saw the first one because I always thought it was a complete bullshit movie but "so bad it's good".

But man was I pleased, super corny style but kinda awesome.

I love the first movie too
"Expert" mods4ever.com
Killmouse
Profile Joined August 2010
Austria5700 Posts
February 15 2013 12:05 GMT
#1039
most boring long game this season
yo
imre
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
France9263 Posts
February 15 2013 12:05 GMT
#1040
On February 15 2013 21:04 totauksz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 21:02 sAsImre wrote:
On February 15 2013 21:00 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:55 sAsImre wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:52 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:49 sAsImre wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:47 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:40 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:35 totauksz wrote:
On February 15 2013 20:33 BLinD-RawR wrote:
[quote]


not bullshit, I know what i'm talking about.:/

Bo7s are tiring Bo9's are worse.

Bo5 pushes players to the limit without completely exhausting them by the time they reach Game 5.


i'm not sure the tiring effect of a best of 9 should be understood as a disadvantage for players who practice 12 hours a day. it even requires a different kind of skillshet because you're not likely to win as big bart of your games with weird builds and gimmicks.

Hyun beat everyone with solid macro that is really impressive


weird builds and gimmicks are a part of the game, you can't always hang on your good macro, limiting the series to a Bo5 gives you the best of everything, it gives you a chance to do a whole lot more even with what seems less.

its a completely different feeling being in the booth than in the practice house I can assure you that.


no. you don't have a solid argument just the misty " it gives you a chance to do a whole lot more even with what seems less"

best of 5s are only good for people who can prepare 3 really good builds that rely on being unpredicted, and that's it.

the longer the series are the more players rely on fundamentals and i'm cool with that since you can cheese as much as you want there too but the opponent has the chance to get to read your style.

and no stamina is not a problem to these guys, if they have nerve issues that's a different matter. a day of mlg is a hundred times more exhausting than best of 9 series. doesn't matter which booth they're in, if they have nerve issues they have them while playing in best of 3s and best of 243212331s either.


the longer the series goes, the more closer to ladder games it will be. That's why weekly tournament don't differ to ladder in term of builds/gameplay and that people who're excellent on the ladder (and zergs) are really good at them.


it's not the length, it's the ability to know who you're playing. even if it's a best of 31 you can prepare 16 builds if you have the time and put the effort in... nothing like in a ladder game.


you're example is so bad because despite being totally unrealistic (or give them 3months to prepare the final) you still have 15ladder builds if you play the 31games.
Just look at the IPL fightclub there are almost 0 specific strats prepared.


it's not like you can't make plans if you have to play more than 5 games. for a good creative player making plans for 9 game should be no problem.

you have absolutely no idea btw which of these games involves a lot of preparation so you're just arguing kinda out of your ass, sorry. every season some players say in interviews that they only rely on their fundamentals, i recall Squirtle saying this and others too. so what the heck is your point? apparently some players prepare map specific builds and others just rely on their fundamentals, every game is "ladder game" for them. and if a player can prepare 3 killer builds for a best of 5 he can do that for a best of 9 too, that's 3 wins in both series.


and 2ladder games in 1, 6 in the other. which is just my point, the longer the series goes, the closer to ladder games it'll look like.



my point was that to some players every game is close to a ladder game so really don't know what you wanna say with that

and btw, if the series reward the ability to prepare builds, why shouldn't they reward the ability to have more solid fundamentals or the ability to adapt? longer series makes it only more fair.


let's remove the S in rts.
Zest fanboy.
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