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Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2013 10:35 GMT
#541
On February 15 2013 19:34 Fusilero wrote:
"Life so much ridculously better than everyone else" but but artosis, innovation es numero uno player of players all hail innovation best WoL player ever and the second coming of flash.


You crack me up every time
AdministratorBreak the chains
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 15 2013 10:35 GMT
#542
On February 15 2013 19:35 sitromit wrote:
Have we ever seen a ZvZ on Planet S in Proleague? I don't remember any.

There's one this week. Stephano vs someone I forget
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 15 2013 10:35 GMT
#543
On February 15 2013 19:35 sitromit wrote:
Have we ever seen a ZvZ on Planet S in Proleague? I don't remember any.

Edit: Wait, Revival beat Effort I think?


Stephano vs Effort will be played on it
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Coal
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden1535 Posts
February 15 2013 10:36 GMT
#544
"Skrillex- Reason"... interesting...
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 15 2013 10:36 GMT
#545
On February 15 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:34 Fusilero wrote:
"Life so much ridculously better than everyone else" but but artosis, innovation es numero uno player of players all hail innovation best WoL player ever and the second coming of flash.


You crack me up every time

I think the best part is the last two things were actually quoted from tastosis on innovation.
Glorious SEA doto
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
February 15 2013 10:36 GMT
#546
On February 15 2013 19:29 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:20 Kihshra wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:14 Wintex wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:13 Kihshra wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis were so fucking annoying (and wrong) talking about that +1 flying attack...


+1 carapace is better.

No it's not. BB had a superior muta count. Starting with that, if Roro goes for +1 carapace, it's just like a 0/0 muta fight but BB has more so... If he goes for +1 attack, BB just kills him faster because he has more mutas. Going for +1 carapace is better when you're behind in muta count or when it's even because it's safer. Going for +1 attack when you're ahead is anything but wrong...

You're literally wrong
+1 carapace blocks minimum 2.5 damage (~2.64 vs +1 attack mutas) in a muta vs muta engagement while +1 attack adds ~1.44 damage


It is always much more fun when a pro says you are wrong. Makes your wrongness even more wrong.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 15 2013 10:36 GMT
#547
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group D
Life vs RorO
Game 1
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Life spawns in the top right
RorO spawns in the bottom left
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TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 10:38:38
February 15 2013 10:37 GMT
#548
On February 15 2013 19:36 Grovbolle wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:29 Acer.Scarlett` wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:20 Kihshra wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:14 Wintex wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:13 Kihshra wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis were so fucking annoying (and wrong) talking about that +1 flying attack...


+1 carapace is better.

No it's not. BB had a superior muta count. Starting with that, if Roro goes for +1 carapace, it's just like a 0/0 muta fight but BB has more so... If he goes for +1 attack, BB just kills him faster because he has more mutas. Going for +1 carapace is better when you're behind in muta count or when it's even because it's safer. Going for +1 attack when you're ahead is anything but wrong...

You're literally wrong
+1 carapace blocks minimum 2.5 damage (~2.64 vs +1 attack mutas) in a muta vs muta engagement while +1 attack adds ~1.44 damage


It is always much more fun when a pro says you are wrong. Makes your wrongness even more wrong.


NVM ME

EDIT: Actually yes, do mind me

Don't think this is Scarlett
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Kihshra
Profile Joined July 2012
178 Posts
February 15 2013 10:37 GMT
#549
On February 15 2013 19:28 SoFrOsTy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:23 nunez wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:20 Kihshra wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:14 Wintex wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:13 Kihshra wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis were so fucking annoying (and wrong) talking about that +1 flying attack...


+1 carapace is better.

No it's not. BB had a superior muta count. Starting with that, if Roro goes for +1 carapace, it's just like a 0/0 muta fight but BB has more so... If he goes for +1 attack, BB just kills him faster because he has more mutas. Going for +1 carapace is better when you're behind in muta count or when it's even because it's safer. Going for +1 attack when you're ahead is anything but wrong...


i don't think this is the case.

Yeah definitely not. Carapace is only 50 minerals and 50 gas more, not even 1 muta. Build time is the same for both and carapace reduces a lot more damage than +1 attack adds.

I'm gonna explain this again cause you don't get it. When your muta count is higher :
If you have +1 attack and your opponent has +1 carapace, it's like 0/0 muta fight but your count is higher.
If you have +1 attack and he has +1 attack, you destroy him faster because of your muta count.
If you have +1 attack and he has nothing you kill him faster.

Now, if you were going for +1 carapace :
If he has +1 attack, the fight is like 0/0 muta but your count is higher...
If he has +1 carapace, because you have no +1 it takes you longer to kill him...
If he has nothing you're killing his mutas quickly but you take less damage.

So, except in the "my opponent has no upgrades" situation, it's better to go for +1 attack when you're really ahead in muta count. Now, why pro almost always go for +1 carapace ? Because it's really safer, especially when your muta count is almost even with your opponent's, and it prevents a lot of dmg.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 15 2013 10:37 GMT
#550
On February 15 2013 19:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:35 sitromit wrote:
Have we ever seen a ZvZ on Planet S in Proleague? I don't remember any.

Edit: Wait, Revival beat Effort I think?


Stephano vs Effort will be played on it


Well he can copy Revival's build I suppose. :p But Effort had kind of a bad build in that game, I don't know if he'll do the same.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7996 Posts
February 15 2013 10:38 GMT
#551
roro expecting 9 pool and stops drones at 13 supply, cna make 6 lings immediately and should be totally fine now
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2013 10:38 GMT
#552
Life vs. Symbol Ro32 all over again
AdministratorBreak the chains
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 10:39:22
February 15 2013 10:39 GMT
#553
--Double--
AdministratorBreak the chains
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 15 2013 10:39 GMT
#554
and now life has 5 more drones?
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
February 15 2013 10:39 GMT
#555
life is damn good.
Moderatorlickypiddy
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 15 2013 10:39 GMT
#556
Life is in trouble, he's on 1 base. Why didn't he take an expo like he normally does with this build?
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 15 2013 10:40 GMT
#557
On February 15 2013 19:39 nunez wrote:
and now life has 5 more drones?

Life's control forced roro to keep making more lings to prevent damage while life droned up behind his attack.
Glorious SEA doto
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 15 2013 10:40 GMT
#558
On February 15 2013 19:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group D
Life vs RorO
Game 1
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Life spawns in the top right
RorO spawns in the bottom left

1:30
10 pool for Life
14 pool for RorO

2:00
lings started for Life
Hatch for RorO
overlord of RorO sees lings on the way

3:00
gas for Life
lings started for RorO
queen on the way for RorO
lings of Life start attacking the natural hatch
lings engage
Life wins the first ling skirmish
more lings show up for both players to the fight

4:00
RorO gets enough lings out to hold off Life
Life is ahead by 5 drones but RorO is a hatch ahead
ling speed started for Life
spine started for RorO

5:00
ling counterattack from RorO
RorO sees no hatch and gas was mined
10 more lings started for RorO
hatch started for Life
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Scarlett`
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada2393 Posts
February 15 2013 10:40 GMT
#559
On February 15 2013 19:37 Kihshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:28 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:23 nunez wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:20 Kihshra wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:14 Wintex wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:13 Kihshra wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis were so fucking annoying (and wrong) talking about that +1 flying attack...


+1 carapace is better.

No it's not. BB had a superior muta count. Starting with that, if Roro goes for +1 carapace, it's just like a 0/0 muta fight but BB has more so... If he goes for +1 attack, BB just kills him faster because he has more mutas. Going for +1 carapace is better when you're behind in muta count or when it's even because it's safer. Going for +1 attack when you're ahead is anything but wrong...


i don't think this is the case.

Yeah definitely not. Carapace is only 50 minerals and 50 gas more, not even 1 muta. Build time is the same for both and carapace reduces a lot more damage than +1 attack adds.

I'm gonna explain this again cause you don't get it. When your muta count is higher :
If you have +1 attack and your opponent has +1 carapace, it's like 0/0 muta fight but your count is higher.
If you have +1 attack and he has +1 attack, you destroy him faster because of your muta count.
If you have +1 attack and he has nothing you kill him faster.

Now, if you were going for +1 carapace :
If he has +1 attack, the fight is like 0/0 muta but your count is higher...
If he has +1 carapace, because you have no +1 it takes you longer to kill him...
If he has nothing you're killing his mutas quickly but you take less damage.

So, except in the "my opponent has no upgrades" situation, it's better to go for +1 attack when you're really ahead in muta count. Now, why pro almost always go for +1 carapace ? Because it's really safer, especially when your muta count is almost even with your opponent's, and it prevents a lot of dmg.

"If you have +1 attack and your opponent has +1 carapace, it's like 0/0 muta fight but your count is higher."
This line is literally wrong

"If he has +1 attack, the fight is like 0/0 muta but your count is higher..."
This line is figuratively wrong

"So, except in the "my opponent has no upgrades" situation, it's better to go for +1 attack when you're really ahead in muta count. Now, why pro almost always go for +1 carapace ? Because it's really safer, especially when your muta count is almost even with your opponent's, and it prevents a lot of dmg."
This line is metaphorically wrong

Read what I wrote in reply to your last post
Progamer
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 15 2013 10:40 GMT
#560
On February 15 2013 19:40 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:39 nunez wrote:
and now life has 5 more drones?

Life's control forced roro to keep making more lings to prevent damage while life droned up behind his attack.

ya it was sick., also he didn't make a hatch. i didn't check the minimap.
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
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