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dynwar7
Profile Joined May 2011
1983 Posts
February 15 2013 10:40 GMT
#561
I want Parting to win and Life to lose right now so they meet again in the final match :D
Regarding the imbalance, hilarious to see Zergs defending themselves....
rauk
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States2228 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 10:41:40
February 15 2013 10:40 GMT
#562
On February 15 2013 19:37 Kihshra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:28 SoFrOsTy wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:23 nunez wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:20 Kihshra wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:14 Wintex wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:13 Kihshra wrote:
Tasteless and Artosis were so fucking annoying (and wrong) talking about that +1 flying attack...


+1 carapace is better.

No it's not. BB had a superior muta count. Starting with that, if Roro goes for +1 carapace, it's just like a 0/0 muta fight but BB has more so... If he goes for +1 attack, BB just kills him faster because he has more mutas. Going for +1 carapace is better when you're behind in muta count or when it's even because it's safer. Going for +1 attack when you're ahead is anything but wrong...


i don't think this is the case.

Yeah definitely not. Carapace is only 50 minerals and 50 gas more, not even 1 muta. Build time is the same for both and carapace reduces a lot more damage than +1 attack adds.

I'm gonna explain this again cause you don't get it. When your muta count is higher :
If you have +1 attack and your opponent has +1 carapace, it's like 0/0 muta fight but your count is higher.
If you have +1 attack and he has +1 attack, you destroy him faster because of your muta count.
If you have +1 attack and he has nothing you kill him faster.

Now, if you were going for +1 carapace :
If he has +1 attack, the fight is like 0/0 muta but your count is higher...
If he has +1 carapace, because you have no +1 it takes you longer to kill him...
If he has nothing you're killing his mutas quickly but you take less damage.

So, except in the "my opponent has no upgrades" situation, it's better to go for +1 attack when you're really ahead in muta count. Now, why pro almost always go for +1 carapace ? Because it's really safer, especially when your muta count is almost even with your opponent's, and it prevents a lot of dmg.


muta bounce doesn't scale like that with +1 attack

1 armor reduces the muta bounce by more than 1 attack adds, so armor is always better than attack; if you have +1 armor and your opponent has +1 attack and you both have 10 mutas then armor always wins
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2013 10:41 GMT
#563
On February 15 2013 19:36 Fusilero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:34 Fusilero wrote:
"Life so much ridculously better than everyone else" but but artosis, innovation es numero uno player of players all hail innovation best WoL player ever and the second coming of flash.


You crack me up every time

I think the best part is the last two things were actually quoted from tastosis on innovation.


Tasteless es numero uno

+ Show Spoiler +
at least when it comes to overhyping players
AdministratorBreak the chains
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
February 15 2013 10:43 GMT
#564
Roro is going to go for a really strong Roach push, if Life doesn't build a lot of Spines, I don't know if he can hold this, but Mutas almost out.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 15 2013 10:43 GMT
#565
On February 15 2013 19:41 Zealously wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:36 Fusilero wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:34 Fusilero wrote:
"Life so much ridculously better than everyone else" but but artosis, innovation es numero uno player of players all hail innovation best WoL player ever and the second coming of flash.


You crack me up every time

I think the best part is the last two things were actually quoted from tastosis on innovation.


Tasteless es numero uno

+ Show Spoiler +
at least when it comes to overhyping players


Tasteless es bueno burro

This sentence contains about 90% of all the spanish words I know.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 15 2013 10:43 GMT
#566
On February 15 2013 19:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group D
Life vs RorO
Game 1
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Life spawns in the top right
RorO spawns in the bottom left

1:30
10 pool for Life
14 pool for RorO

2:00
lings started for Life
Hatch for RorO
overlord of RorO sees lings on the way

3:00
gas for Life
lings started for RorO
queen on the way for RorO
lings of Life start attacking the natural hatch
lings engage
Life wins the first ling skirmish
more lings show up for both players to the fight

4:00
RorO gets enough lings out to hold off Life
Life is ahead by 5 drones but RorO is a hatch ahead
ling speed started for Life
spine started for RorO

5:00
ling counterattack from RorO
RorO sees no hatch and gas was mined
10 more lings started for RorO
hatch started for Life

6:00
lings of RorO move across the map
speed finishes for Life
ling battle
Life cleans up all the lings of RorO
RorO full walling his natural with a roach warren evo and spine

7:00
double gas for RorO
Life sees the full wall
RorO going up to 4 gas
another gas for Life
Lair started for Life

8:00
RorO is ahead by 8 drones
Life going up to 4 gas
Lair started for RorO
ling speed started for RorO
Roach production started for RorO

9:00
3rd base for Life
+1 range attack started for RorO
Spire started for Life
infestation pit started for RorO

10:00
Roach warren for Life
evo chamber for Life
RorO moving out to take his 3rd
3rd base started for RorO
pathogen glands for RorO
RorO sending lings and roaches to Life's 3rd
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
February 15 2013 10:44 GMT
#567
Kill everything pls
AdministratorBreak the chains
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 15 2013 10:46 GMT
#568
Damn I overslept, how was Life vs Parting?
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 10:46:58
February 15 2013 10:46 GMT
#569
On February 15 2013 19:46 Musicus wrote:
Damn I overslept, how was Life vs Parting?


Onesided, hydras imba now
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
fartosis77
Profile Joined February 2013
Belgium461 Posts
February 15 2013 10:46 GMT
#570
Roflstomp by Life.
IM NESTEAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
February 15 2013 10:47 GMT
#571
On February 15 2013 19:43 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:40 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
GSL S1 2013 Code S Ro16 Group D
Life vs RorO
Game 1
Map: Neo Planet S

0:00
Life spawns in the top right
RorO spawns in the bottom left

1:30
10 pool for Life
14 pool for RorO

2:00
lings started for Life
Hatch for RorO
overlord of RorO sees lings on the way

3:00
gas for Life
lings started for RorO
queen on the way for RorO
lings of Life start attacking the natural hatch
lings engage
Life wins the first ling skirmish
more lings show up for both players to the fight

4:00
RorO gets enough lings out to hold off Life
Life is ahead by 5 drones but RorO is a hatch ahead
ling speed started for Life
spine started for RorO

5:00
ling counterattack from RorO
RorO sees no hatch and gas was mined
10 more lings started for RorO
hatch started for Life

6:00
lings of RorO move across the map
speed finishes for Life
ling battle
Life cleans up all the lings of RorO
RorO full walling his natural with a roach warren evo and spine

7:00
double gas for RorO
Life sees the full wall
RorO going up to 4 gas
another gas for Life
Lair started for Life

8:00
RorO is ahead by 8 drones
Life going up to 4 gas
Lair started for RorO
ling speed started for RorO
Roach production started for RorO

9:00
3rd base for Life
+1 range attack started for RorO
Spire started for Life
infestation pit started for RorO

10:00
Roach warren for Life
evo chamber for Life
RorO moving out to take his 3rd
3rd base started for RorO
pathogen glands for RorO
RorO sending lings and roaches to Life's 3rd

11:00
mutas coming out for Life
3rd of Life dies
lings of Life kill RorO's queens in the natural
roaches and lings of RorO attacking Life's natural
mutas are trying to defend
Lings get into the main and kill RorO's queens
lings in RorO's main
infestors on the way for RorO

12:00
spores started for RorO
RorO canceled his 3rd at some point
Mutas starting to kill overlords of RorO
RorO moving his spores forward on creep
infestors scare the mutas away
infestation pit started for Life

13:00
37 drones for RorO vs 34 for Life
ling counter from Roro is denied by Life's lings and mutas
+2 range attack started for RorO
Roach speed started for Life
+1 range attack started for Life
mutas of Life kill the creep tumors of RorO

14:00
5 mutas of Life are fungaled and killed by ITs
pathogen glands for Life
infestor production started for Life

15:00
mutas fly into the main of rorO
the last of the mutas are getting fungaled and killed off by ITs and queens
RorO is 30 supply ahead
3rd base started for Life
Burrow research started for RorO
Roach speed started for RorO
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
TL+ Member
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 10:47:40
February 15 2013 10:47 GMT
#572
On February 15 2013 19:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:41 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:36 Fusilero wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:34 Fusilero wrote:
"Life so much ridculously better than everyone else" but but artosis, innovation es numero uno player of players all hail innovation best WoL player ever and the second coming of flash.


You crack me up every time

I think the best part is the last two things were actually quoted from tastosis on innovation.


Tasteless es numero uno

+ Show Spoiler +
at least when it comes to overhyping players


Tasteless es bueno burro

This sentence contains about 90% of all the spanish words I know.

Qué hay en la mesa?
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
February 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#573
Random muta.
iSunrise
Profile Joined June 2011
3302 Posts
February 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#574
Life needs some creep spread between his 2nd and 3rd fast.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
February 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#575
On February 15 2013 19:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:46 Musicus wrote:
Damn I overslept, how was Life vs Parting?


Onesided, hydras imba now


Haha ok.
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#576
huh, roro's econ is still pretty meh
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Flonomenalz
Profile Joined May 2011
Nigeria3519 Posts
February 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#577
Life making 1 muta is so smart.
I love crazymoving
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 15 2013 10:48 GMT
#578
On February 15 2013 19:47 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 19:43 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:41 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:36 Fusilero wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:35 Zealously wrote:
On February 15 2013 19:34 Fusilero wrote:
"Life so much ridculously better than everyone else" but but artosis, innovation es numero uno player of players all hail innovation best WoL player ever and the second coming of flash.


You crack me up every time

I think the best part is the last two things were actually quoted from tastosis on innovation.


Tasteless es numero uno

+ Show Spoiler +
at least when it comes to overhyping players


Tasteless es bueno burro

This sentence contains about 90% of all the spanish words I know.

Qué hay en la mesa?


See, that was too much already.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 15 2013 10:49 GMT
#579
rorolleeddd
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
February 15 2013 10:49 GMT
#580
Well that was well played by roro, he's no innovation tho.
Glorious SEA doto
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