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n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#961
I BELIEVE !
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#962
On February 06 2013 20:06 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 06 2013 20:01 Tobblish wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.


Bisu announcing his retirement of SC2 and switches to LoL?


Fixed that for you :x

No, the question was something that would be worse.

+ Show Spoiler +
j/k


Oh... I thought it was about a realistic future event, my bad. :/
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 06 2013 11:07 GMT
#963
Not sure if I should believe, but I hope.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Die4Ever
Profile Joined August 2010
United States17750 Posts
February 06 2013 11:07 GMT
#964
On February 06 2013 20:05 Confuse wrote:
any real MVP fan does not want MVP to win. they want him to fix his wrists and come back undefeated.

unfortunately I think that would take like at least a year, spine issues...
"Expert" mods4ever.com
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
February 06 2013 11:07 GMT
#965
SoO go go. make it a complete kespa sweep today.
Die-hard KeSPA fan
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 06 2013 11:07 GMT
#966
If Mvp loses here I will never like soO. Same reason I hate Life with a passion, denying Mvp his fifth GSL.
Long live the King of Wings
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 06 2013 11:08 GMT
#967
Pretty sure soO takes this series. Mvp probably has about 30% chance.
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
February 06 2013 11:08 GMT
#968
On February 06 2013 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:05 Confuse wrote:
any real MVP fan does not want MVP to win. they want him to fix his wrists and come back undefeated.

unfortunately I think that would take like at least a year, spine issues...


MVP have said it would take about 2years and that he would retire from progaming.
The curse is real
AxionSteel
Profile Joined January 2011
United States7754 Posts
February 06 2013 11:08 GMT
#969
On February 06 2013 20:07 Die4Ever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:05 Confuse wrote:
any real MVP fan does not want MVP to win. they want him to fix his wrists and come back undefeated.

unfortunately I think that would take like at least a year, spine issues...

It would mean retirement I guess. Although I'd prefer that I think than him playing in pain and playing poorly
Ketch
Profile Joined October 2010
Netherlands7285 Posts
February 06 2013 11:09 GMT
#970
I miss the Boxer days were Terran would build barracks on a seemingly random place on the map, only to snipe an overseer
ujonecro
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom846 Posts
February 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#971
Shut up Khaldor! Mvp has this.
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
February 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#972
Yes, the finals vs life were a true sign of weakness for MVP.
CEPEHDREI
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany1521 Posts
February 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#973
good morning khaldor
yrt123
Profile Joined October 2012
Singapore1246 Posts
February 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#974
On February 06 2013 20:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:04 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:50 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:25 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:23 graNite wrote:
Eerrrrr, what? Why do the watchtowers disappear at 7 minutes?


The reasoning was that they're too strong after that as you can see pretty much everything important by controlling them


I wish this would be implemented for other maps too.


I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans.


No, it would give a big advantage to players who are actively scouting the whole game instead of just holding watchtowers to have vision of everything. I think the biggest contributing factor to why games tend to get stale is that it is just too easy to spot incoming attacks. If it is easier to stay defensive and defend against incoming aggression it is not really worth it to get aggressive. On the other hand if defending is difficult and if playing passive is actually going to hurt you in the long run because at some point you might miss an attack and take some damage it makes sense to invest into some aggression yourself so that you can start trading blows instead of just being on the receiving end.

Terran doesn't really gain an advantage from this. The only time you can really afford to mass scan is when you have more than 5 orbitals and before that it's actually the other two races having more map vision through observers, pylons, creep, overlords. All the races can just adapt by sending scouting units around the map.


Well I don't disagree with that it would be more advantageous to better players but what happens if terran makes one raven late-lategame. Observers are useless, overlords aren't used to spot movement at that stage, neither are pylons. Creep is cleaned up with raven support all the while terran can always scan to check without really losing anything.


With the maps we currently have in Sc2 it's actually very hard to lose track of your opponents army. Even if you lose an observer it still gives you information and you can compensate by sending out some Zealots. Good Protoss players will constantly build Pylons around the map.


if you lose an observer, it's gone and you won't be able to monitor their movements until you suicide something to find out. So in other words, terran gets free vision while the other races don't.


Not really, CREEP gives free vision. Terran PAYS 270 min per scan
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
February 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#975
Ach guys, stop talking about such sad things as Mvp's injury. T_T I can't even watch this series for fear of him losing.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12889 Posts
February 06 2013 11:10 GMT
#976
MVP please!
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Severian
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia2052 Posts
February 06 2013 11:11 GMT
#977
That's a pretty quick third Soo's getting away with.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 06 2013 11:11 GMT
#978
On February 06 2013 20:10 ujonecro wrote:
Shut up Khaldor! Mvp has this.


Just being realistic i guess. Mvp has been having a terribly hard time vs zerg as of late, and SoO is an absolute monster vs terran. And i'm not saying that because of my bestkt fanboyism.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
February 06 2013 11:11 GMT
#979
On February 06 2013 20:06 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:04 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:50 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:25 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:23 graNite wrote:
Eerrrrr, what? Why do the watchtowers disappear at 7 minutes?


The reasoning was that they're too strong after that as you can see pretty much everything important by controlling them


I wish this would be implemented for other maps too.


I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans.


No, it would give a big advantage to players who are actively scouting the whole game instead of just holding watchtowers to have vision of everything. I think the biggest contributing factor to why games tend to get stale is that it is just too easy to spot incoming attacks. If it is easier to stay defensive and defend against incoming aggression it is not really worth it to get aggressive. On the other hand if defending is difficult and if playing passive is actually going to hurt you in the long run because at some point you might miss an attack and take some damage it makes sense to invest into some aggression yourself so that you can start trading blows instead of just being on the receiving end.

Terran doesn't really gain an advantage from this. The only time you can really afford to mass scan is when you have more than 5 orbitals and before that it's actually the other two races having more map vision through observers, pylons, creep, overlords. All the races can just adapt by sending scouting units around the map.


Well I don't disagree with that it would be more advantageous to better players but what happens if terran makes one raven late-lategame. Observers are useless, overlords aren't used to spot movement at that stage, neither are pylons. Creep is cleaned up with raven support all the while terran can always scan to check without really losing anything.


With the maps we currently have in Sc2 it's actually very hard to lose track of your opponents army. Even if you lose an observer it still gives you information and you can compensate by sending out some Zealots. Good Protoss players will constantly build Pylons around the map.


if you lose an observer, it's gone and you won't be able to monitor their movements until you suicide something to find out. So in other words, terran gets free vision while the other races don't.


How stubborn can you be? Building more than 5 orbitals is not free and it gives you temporary vision only just like a dying observer. If you are really scanning constantly you will lose mineral mining. So it's just like a dying observer and sending out a single Zealot or Zergling can hardly be considered a big loss. Also it feels to me that you just don't know how to manage your observers correctly.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
ffrozenfish
Profile Joined May 2011
820 Posts
February 06 2013 11:11 GMT
#980
lol Khaldor,Mvp losing to zerg known for their ZvT, is Gowser good at ZvT?
Give us our snipe back - Ghost
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