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Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#941
at least with all the IM players already going out im already on that depressed vibe so Mvp losing won't hit me as hard
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#942
On February 06 2013 20:01 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.


Flash announcing his retirement of SC2 and switches to LoL?


Silence, you blasphemous cur!
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#943
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.


What about GSL July? Mvp not making it out of Code S, ByuN beating NaDa, Bomber's unfathomable failure against ByuN, MC losing to HongUn, horrible games throughout the Top 4, overall pretty shoddy roster for code S.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
February 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#944
Mvp got some okish maps imo.
Weavel
Profile Joined January 2010
Finland9221 Posts
February 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#945
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.
Yeah . All my other favourite players already lost and missed Flash game because woke up too late.
Life/Seed//Mvp/NaNiwa fighting! ZeNEX forever!
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 11:04:33
February 06 2013 11:03 GMT
#946
On February 06 2013 20:03 Dodgin wrote:
at least with all the IM players already going out im already on that depressed vibe so Mvp losing won't hit me as hard


Same. FML. T_T Literally the worst day of SC2 for me I think, especially if Mvp goes out.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 11:04:29
February 06 2013 11:04 GMT
#947
And now Mvp channels the rage of terran and IM to unleash 2011 Mvp.

Please, Mvp
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 06 2013 11:04 GMT
#948
On February 06 2013 20:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.


What about GSL July? Mvp not making it out of Code S, ByuN beating NaDa, Bomber's unfathomable failure against ByuN, MC losing to HongUn, horrible games throughout the Top 4, overall pretty shoddy roster for code S.


at least nestea won without losing a game, that was cool.
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
February 06 2013 11:04 GMT
#949
On February 06 2013 19:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:50 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:25 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:23 graNite wrote:
Eerrrrr, what? Why do the watchtowers disappear at 7 minutes?


The reasoning was that they're too strong after that as you can see pretty much everything important by controlling them


I wish this would be implemented for other maps too.


I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans.


No, it would give a big advantage to players who are actively scouting the whole game instead of just holding watchtowers to have vision of everything. I think the biggest contributing factor to why games tend to get stale is that it is just too easy to spot incoming attacks. If it is easier to stay defensive and defend against incoming aggression it is not really worth it to get aggressive. On the other hand if defending is difficult and if playing passive is actually going to hurt you in the long run because at some point you might miss an attack and take some damage it makes sense to invest into some aggression yourself so that you can start trading blows instead of just being on the receiving end.

Terran doesn't really gain an advantage from this. The only time you can really afford to mass scan is when you have more than 5 orbitals and before that it's actually the other two races having more map vision through observers, pylons, creep, overlords. All the races can just adapt by sending scouting units around the map.


Well I don't disagree with that it would be more advantageous to better players but what happens if terran makes one raven late-lategame. Observers are useless, overlords aren't used to spot movement at that stage, neither are pylons. Creep is cleaned up with raven support all the while terran can always scan to check without really losing anything.


With the maps we currently have in Sc2 it's actually very hard to lose track of your opponents army. Even if you lose an observer it still gives you information and you can compensate by sending out some Zealots. Good Protoss players will constantly build Pylons around the map.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 06 2013 11:04 GMT
#950
On February 06 2013 20:01 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.


Bisu announcing his retirement of SC2 and switches to LoL?


Fixed that for you :x
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 06 2013 11:04 GMT
#951
Rofl, I remember how Hongun 4gated MC out
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Confuse
Profile Joined October 2009
2238 Posts
February 06 2013 11:05 GMT
#952
any real MVP fan does not want MVP to win. they want him to fix his wrists and come back undefeated.
If we fear what we do not understand, then why is ignorance bliss?
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
February 06 2013 11:05 GMT
#953
     (1900) Mvp  0-0  soO (1874)     
-------------------------------------
26.06% 2-0 2-0 23.96%
25.51% 2-1 2-1 24.47%
-------------------------------------
51.57% 48.43%

Median outcome: Mvp 2-1 soO
Estimated by Aligulac. Make another.
Lies, damned lies and statistics: http://aligulac.com
MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 06 2013 11:05 GMT
#954
On February 06 2013 20:04 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:03 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.


What about GSL July? Mvp not making it out of Code S, ByuN beating NaDa, Bomber's unfathomable failure against ByuN, MC losing to HongUn, horrible games throughout the Top 4, overall pretty shoddy roster for code S.


at least nestea won without losing a game, that was cool.


NesTea being insanely overrated just for beating July, Ensnare and HongUn? Not that cool. ;p
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
paradoxOO9
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom1123 Posts
February 06 2013 11:05 GMT
#955
MVP still sits pretty at a 65% win rate. Over that many sets thats incredible
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#956
Mvp so handsome. Code S wouldn't be the same without dat smile. <3
+ Show Spoiler +
totally homo
Long live the King of Wings
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#957
On February 06 2013 20:04 Baum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:57 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:50 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:25 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:23 graNite wrote:
Eerrrrr, what? Why do the watchtowers disappear at 7 minutes?


The reasoning was that they're too strong after that as you can see pretty much everything important by controlling them


I wish this would be implemented for other maps too.


I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans.


No, it would give a big advantage to players who are actively scouting the whole game instead of just holding watchtowers to have vision of everything. I think the biggest contributing factor to why games tend to get stale is that it is just too easy to spot incoming attacks. If it is easier to stay defensive and defend against incoming aggression it is not really worth it to get aggressive. On the other hand if defending is difficult and if playing passive is actually going to hurt you in the long run because at some point you might miss an attack and take some damage it makes sense to invest into some aggression yourself so that you can start trading blows instead of just being on the receiving end.

Terran doesn't really gain an advantage from this. The only time you can really afford to mass scan is when you have more than 5 orbitals and before that it's actually the other two races having more map vision through observers, pylons, creep, overlords. All the races can just adapt by sending scouting units around the map.


Well I don't disagree with that it would be more advantageous to better players but what happens if terran makes one raven late-lategame. Observers are useless, overlords aren't used to spot movement at that stage, neither are pylons. Creep is cleaned up with raven support all the while terran can always scan to check without really losing anything.


With the maps we currently have in Sc2 it's actually very hard to lose track of your opponents army. Even if you lose an observer it still gives you information and you can compensate by sending out some Zealots. Good Protoss players will constantly build Pylons around the map.


if you lose an observer, it's gone and you won't be able to monitor their movements until you suicide something to find out. So in other words, terran gets free vision while the other races don't.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-06 11:06:21
February 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#958
On February 06 2013 20:04 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 20:01 Tobblish wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:59 Dodgin wrote:
if mvp loses this is the worst gsl day in history for me, I can't think of anything worse.


Bisu announcing his retirement of SC2 and switches to LoL?


Fixed that for you :x

No, the question was something that would be worse.

+ Show Spoiler +
j/k
The curse is real
figq
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
12519 Posts
February 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#959
On February 06 2013 20:05 paradoxOO9 wrote:
MVP still sits pretty at a 65% win rate. Over that many sets thats incredible
flash still unimpressed
If you stand next to my head, you can hear the ocean. - Day[9]
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 06 2013 11:06 GMT
#960
On February 06 2013 20:05 Confuse wrote:
any real MVP fan does not want MVP to win. they want him to fix his wrists and come back undefeated.


he said he would retire if he was going to take a break because he couldn't play anymore
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