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[Code A] RO48 Day 2 2013 GSL Season 1 - Page 45
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MasterOfPuppets
Romania6942 Posts
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Lunareste
United States3596 Posts
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vthree
Hong Kong8039 Posts
On February 06 2013 19:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote: What the hell just happened. Aggressive play vs greedy play | ||
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Elite_
United States4259 Posts
On February 06 2013 19:47 LimitSEA wrote: All this LG-IM losing is making me depressed. I'm gonna go watch the VODs of LosirA crushing face until Mvp's games. TT YoDa VODs better. | ||
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
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n0ise
3452 Posts
On February 06 2013 19:46 DarkLordOlli wrote: Not THEM, only one, lol. Only one to move around with your ghost/viking deathball and it'd already pay for itself because protoss won't know where your army is at all. Which means you can win positional wars. AND, because of how quickly observers die, you can just gun them down in battles before the raven dies and then cloaked ghosts win the game. It's not like these guys don't have the control, it's just such a fixed mindset that raven is bad in TvP unless it's 1/1/1 1 raven is actually really good in tvp esp vs collossus play, problem is, as usual, we don't just warp shit in from 100 gateways. Any non medivac/viking building time for your starport puts you behind, so that means you need a 2nd starport, and a techlab, and the 200 gas which is needed for ghosts/ups. The unit is definitely good, problem people miss is that you don't just wish it in your army and it magically spawns | ||
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MCDayC
United Kingdom14464 Posts
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tylerf
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Baum
Germany1010 Posts
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote: I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans. No, it would give a big advantage to players who are actively scouting the whole game instead of just holding watchtowers to have vision of everything. I think the biggest contributing factor to why games tend to get stale is that it is just too easy to spot incoming attacks. If it is easier to stay defensive and defend against incoming aggression it is not really worth it to get aggressive. On the other hand if defending is difficult and if playing passive is actually going to hurt you in the long run because at some point you might miss an attack and take some damage it makes sense to invest into some aggression yourself so that you can start trading blows instead of just being on the receiving end. Terran doesn't really gain an advantage from this. The only time you can really afford to mass scan is when you have more than 5 orbitals and before that it's actually the other two races having more map vision through observers, pylons, creep, overlords. All the races can just adapt by sending scouting units around the map. | ||
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LimitSEA
Australia9580 Posts
As a Zerg, I prefer LosirA's.  Dat manner burrow/unburrow. | ||
opterown
Australia54784 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
On February 06 2013 19:49 n0ise wrote: 1 raven is actually really good in tvp esp vs collossus play, problem is, as usual, we don't just warp shit in from 100 gateways. Any non medivac/viking building time for your starport puts you behind, so that means you need a 2nd starport, and a techlab, and the 200 gas which is needed for ghosts/ups. The unit is definitely good, problem people miss is that you don't just wish it in your army and it magically spawns Well as I said, I'm talking about as late into the game when you're on mass CCs, sacrificing SCVs to get a bigger army. I'm pretty sure you can afford to switch one starport with something techlab-equipped for that time it takes to build a raven. Or give it its own techlab, whatever. The price you pay is minimal compared to what it could do for you which is outright win the game if protoss doesn't snipe that thing immediately. Which actually can be avoided if you waste its energy constantly. | ||
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Fragile51
Netherlands15767 Posts
On February 06 2013 19:52 opterown wrote: gogo effort! damnit why do we always cheer for the same people | ||
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Heartland
Sweden24602 Posts
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illidanx
United States973 Posts
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opterown
Australia54784 Posts
On February 06 2013 19:53 Fragile51 wrote: damnit why do we always cheer for the same people have you got my toast yet? | ||
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nunez
Norway4003 Posts
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Kreb
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Laryleprakon
New Zealand9496 Posts
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