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MasterOfPuppets
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Romania6942 Posts
February 06 2013 10:47 GMT
#881
What the hell just happened.
"my shaft scares me too" - strenx 2014
Lunareste
Profile Joined July 2011
United States3596 Posts
February 06 2013 10:47 GMT
#882
gogo Effort!
KT FlaSh FOREVER
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
February 06 2013 10:48 GMT
#883
On February 06 2013 19:47 MasterOfPuppets wrote:
What the hell just happened.


Aggressive play vs greedy play
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
February 06 2013 10:48 GMT
#884
On February 06 2013 19:47 LimitSEA wrote:
All this LG-IM losing is making me depressed. I'm gonna go watch the VODs of LosirA crushing face until Mvp's games. TT

YoDa VODs better.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
February 06 2013 10:48 GMT
#885
Poll: Recommend ByuL vs EffOrt Game 1?

Yes (6)
 
50%

No (5)
 
42%

If you have time (1)
 
8%

12 total votes

Your vote: Recommend ByuL vs EffOrt Game 1?

(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): If you have time

n0ise
Profile Joined April 2010
3452 Posts
February 06 2013 10:49 GMT
#886
On February 06 2013 19:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:40 vthree wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:34 vthree wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:30 forsooth wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:25 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:23 graNite wrote:
Eerrrrr, what? Why do the watchtowers disappear at 7 minutes?


The reasoning was that they're too strong after that as you can see pretty much everything important by controlling them


I wish this would be implemented for other maps too.


I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans.

Stationary observers, creep?


With how good terrans are at spotting observers that's not reliable. If creep is spread far enough to give enough map vision to always know where your opponent is, you're already in deep trouble as it is.


Not if you have a lot of observers out.


If only any terran at all would be intelligent enough to make a single F'ING raven lategame. What I'm talking about is as late into the game when you sacrifice SCVs. Make a raven. A SINGLE RAVEN.


Yes, because observers get killed but ravens don't? Ravens can get caught out by blink stalkers. If terrans were guarantee that their raven wouldn't die, I am sure more would make them.


Not THEM, only one, lol. Only one to move around with your ghost/viking deathball and it'd already pay for itself because protoss won't know where your army is at all. Which means you can win positional wars. AND, because of how quickly observers die, you can just gun them down in battles before the raven dies and then cloaked ghosts win the game. It's not like these guys don't have the control, it's just such a fixed mindset that raven is bad in TvP unless it's 1/1/1


1 raven is actually really good in tvp esp vs collossus play, problem is, as usual, we don't just warp shit in from 100 gateways. Any non medivac/viking building time for your starport puts you behind, so that means you need a 2nd starport, and a techlab, and the 200 gas which is needed for ghosts/ups.

The unit is definitely good, problem people miss is that you don't just wish it in your army and it magically spawns
Deleted User 137586
Profile Joined January 2011
7859 Posts
February 06 2013 10:49 GMT
#887
I'm sorry but Effort looks like a scary gnome from some scary children's story. Reawakens some long lost childhood terror.
Cry 'havoc' and let slip the dogs of war
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
February 06 2013 10:49 GMT
#888
nooooo Seed and First out, TT DAMMIT.
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
tylerf
Profile Joined March 2012
739 Posts
February 06 2013 10:50 GMT
#889
CEEJAYENTUSEPPOTE
Baum
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany1010 Posts
February 06 2013 10:50 GMT
#890
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:25 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:23 graNite wrote:
Eerrrrr, what? Why do the watchtowers disappear at 7 minutes?


The reasoning was that they're too strong after that as you can see pretty much everything important by controlling them


I wish this would be implemented for other maps too.


I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans.


No, it would give a big advantage to players who are actively scouting the whole game instead of just holding watchtowers to have vision of everything. I think the biggest contributing factor to why games tend to get stale is that it is just too easy to spot incoming attacks. If it is easier to stay defensive and defend against incoming aggression it is not really worth it to get aggressive. On the other hand if defending is difficult and if playing passive is actually going to hurt you in the long run because at some point you might miss an attack and take some damage it makes sense to invest into some aggression yourself so that you can start trading blows instead of just being on the receiving end.

Terran doesn't really gain an advantage from this. The only time you can really afford to mass scan is when you have more than 5 orbitals and before that it's actually the other two races having more map vision through observers, pylons, creep, overlords. All the races can just adapt by sending scouting units around the map.
I want to be with those who share secret things or else alone.
LimitSEA
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia9580 Posts
February 06 2013 10:52 GMT
#891
On February 06 2013 19:48 Elite_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:47 LimitSEA wrote:
All this LG-IM losing is making me depressed. I'm gonna go watch the VODs of LosirA crushing face until Mvp's games. TT

YoDa VODs better.

As a Zerg, I prefer LosirA's. Dat manner burrow/unburrow.
Long live the King of Wings
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 06 2013 10:52 GMT
#892
gogo effort!
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
February 06 2013 10:53 GMT
#893
On February 06 2013 19:49 n0ise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:46 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:40 vthree wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:36 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:34 vthree wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:32 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:30 forsooth wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:27 DarkLordOlli wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:25 Baum wrote:
On February 06 2013 19:24 DarkLordOlli wrote:
[quote]

The reasoning was that they're too strong after that as you can see pretty much everything important by controlling them


I wish this would be implemented for other maps too.


I don't, honestly. That would give a big advantage to terran lategame as they would be the only race with constant knowledge of the opponent's army positioning through scans.

Stationary observers, creep?


With how good terrans are at spotting observers that's not reliable. If creep is spread far enough to give enough map vision to always know where your opponent is, you're already in deep trouble as it is.


Not if you have a lot of observers out.


If only any terran at all would be intelligent enough to make a single F'ING raven lategame. What I'm talking about is as late into the game when you sacrifice SCVs. Make a raven. A SINGLE RAVEN.


Yes, because observers get killed but ravens don't? Ravens can get caught out by blink stalkers. If terrans were guarantee that their raven wouldn't die, I am sure more would make them.


Not THEM, only one, lol. Only one to move around with your ghost/viking deathball and it'd already pay for itself because protoss won't know where your army is at all. Which means you can win positional wars. AND, because of how quickly observers die, you can just gun them down in battles before the raven dies and then cloaked ghosts win the game. It's not like these guys don't have the control, it's just such a fixed mindset that raven is bad in TvP unless it's 1/1/1


1 raven is actually really good in tvp esp vs collossus play, problem is, as usual, we don't just warp shit in from 100 gateways. Any non medivac/viking building time for your starport puts you behind, so that means you need a 2nd starport, and a techlab, and the 200 gas which is needed for ghosts/ups.

The unit is definitely good, problem people miss is that you don't just wish it in your army and it magically spawns


Well as I said, I'm talking about as late into the game when you're on mass CCs, sacrificing SCVs to get a bigger army. I'm pretty sure you can afford to switch one starport with something techlab-equipped for that time it takes to build a raven. Or give it its own techlab, whatever. The price you pay is minimal compared to what it could do for you which is outright win the game if protoss doesn't snipe that thing immediately. Which actually can be avoided if you waste its energy constantly.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
February 06 2013 10:53 GMT
#894
On February 06 2013 19:52 opterown wrote:
gogo effort!


damnit why do we always cheer for the same people
Heartland
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Sweden24604 Posts
February 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#895
You get an a for effort.
illidanx
Profile Joined November 2011
United States973 Posts
February 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#896
kespa powaaaaaaa
Die-hard KeSPA fan
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
February 06 2013 10:54 GMT
#897
On February 06 2013 19:53 Fragile51 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2013 19:52 opterown wrote:
gogo effort!


damnit why do we always cheer for the same people

have you got my toast yet?
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
nunez
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Norway4003 Posts
February 06 2013 10:55 GMT
#898
woo zvz! action FIGHT!
conspired against by a confederacy of dunces.
Kreb
Profile Joined September 2010
4834 Posts
February 06 2013 10:55 GMT
#899
Thats a quick day at work for Effort lol
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
February 06 2013 10:55 GMT
#900
Not the best day for LG-IM, time for Mvp to turn it around!!
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