Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming.
Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer.
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Cattlecruiser
United States340 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. | ||
iSunrise
3302 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:11 Ilintar wrote: As evidenced by Lure vs Jaedong earlier today. There´s always an exception to the rule. Phoenixes are terrible most of the time. Yes, you can use them for scouting and killing overlords, but they won´t do shit against anything else. You would rather mass up on units again and do some aggressive MC style all-in. | ||
mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:13 mycro wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:12 Mycl wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. This seed bashing would make more sense if Huk didn't make it through Up&Downs like he did Some would say he was put in an easy group. 1. NesTea 4-1 2. HuK 3-2 3. Center 3-2 4. FanTaSy 2-3 5. finale 1-3 5. Flying 1-3 Some would say that no groups in the GSL are easy anymore. Some would also say that if the seed was given to Fantasy who lost in this group that people would not whine nearly as much. Some would say that Huk performed good on that day and alright today but is now out just like lots of other players are and will be... Huk put out a good effort and if he had a voidray in that game he likely holds the roach/ling push. | ||
Weirdkid
Singapore2431 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. I want to watch my favourite player defeat a superior Korean gamer. What does that make me? | ||
mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. Ignorant kids will troll and try to make generalizations that are wrong just to insult people. Good try kid. User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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Ragnarork
France9034 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:13 mycro wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:12 Mycl wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. This seed bashing would make more sense if Huk didn't make it through Up&Downs like he did Some would say he was put in an easy group. Yeah, a group SKT_FanTaSy didn't manage to get through. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
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Loire
Singapore1358 Posts
turns out he's playing GSL today | ||
mrtomjones
Canada4020 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:18 Weirdkid wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. I want to watch my favourite player defeat a superior Korean gamer. What does that make me? Normal. | ||
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Waxangel
United States33077 Posts
stargate-robo into fast third is a popular, standard strat that's used by pretty much everyone. name a protoss player you think is better than huk, and he's used it successfully and often. | ||
Lysanias
Netherlands8351 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:17 iSunrise wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:11 Ilintar wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 iSunrise wrote: Lessons learned: Don´t build phoenixes As evidenced by Lure vs Jaedong earlier today. There´s always an exception to the rule. Phoenixes are terrible most of the time. Yes, you can use them for scouting and killing overlords, but they won´t do shit against anything else. You would rather mass up on units again and do some aggressive MC style all-in. HerO also used them today, please stop. | ||
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Shellshock
United States97274 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:18 Waxangel wrote: how is anyone saying phoenixes are bad stargate-robo into fast third is a popular, standard strat that's used by pretty much everyone. name a protoss player you think is better than huk, and he's used it successfully and often. Did Lure use it today? I missed the games | ||
Kasaraki
Denmark7115 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:18 Weirdkid wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. I want to watch my favourite player defeat a superior Korean gamer. What does that make me? It makes you Weird. ^_^ And ahh, sadly I think YoDa will lose this. Protoss all-ins bring him a lot of trouble. | ||
Orek
1665 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:18 Weirdkid wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. I want to watch my favourite player defeat a superior Korean gamer. What does that make me? It makes you are weird kid. | ||
Die4Ever
United States17588 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. I'm not a player, and I'm not a hipster. I like watching players I hate lose to a superior korean gamer lol. | ||
bittman
Australia8759 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:19 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:18 Waxangel wrote: how is anyone saying phoenixes are bad stargate-robo into fast third is a popular, standard strat that's used by pretty much everyone. name a protoss player you think is better than huk, and he's used it successfully and often. Did Lure use it today? I missed the games Lure used them in all games I think? At least in the two he won he used phoenixes | ||
Heartland
Sweden24578 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:17 iSunrise wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:11 Ilintar wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 iSunrise wrote: Lessons learned: Don´t build phoenixes As evidenced by Lure vs Jaedong earlier today. There´s always an exception to the rule. Phoenixes are terrible most of the time. Yes, you can use them for scouting and killing overlords, but they won´t do shit against anything else. You would rather mass up on units again and do some aggressive MC style all-in. Phoenixes can be fantastic, but as with all harassment strategies you have to do quite a bit of damage. But against the sort of classical pressure play that went down in that game you're in quite a bit of trouble. But Phoenixes are popular in the PvZ metagame and it's not without reason. I think they're just a unit that in some players hands look crap and in some players hands they seem imba. | ||
Weird
United States832 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:19 Kasaraki wrote: Show nested quote + On February 05 2013 20:18 Weirdkid wrote: On February 05 2013 20:17 Cattlecruiser wrote: On February 05 2013 20:14 forsooth wrote: On February 05 2013 20:13 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:12 Orek wrote: On February 05 2013 20:09 ShakkaFL wrote: On February 05 2013 20:08 vthree wrote: On February 05 2013 20:07 ShakkaFL wrote: who's great idea was to give this player a Code S seed <_< No one. He got an Up and Down seed. who's great idea was it to give this player any kind of seed <_< Because famous foreigners attract more viewers, and GOMTV is not a non-profit organization. I'm pretty sure anyone would rather see a good player than an average non-korean play. You'd be wrong. Starcraft 2 PLAYERS will want to watch a quality game with great macro/micro and metagaming. Starcraft 2 Hipster FANS will want to watch their favorite player lose to a superior Korean gamer. I want to watch my favourite player defeat a superior Korean gamer. What does that make me? It makes you Weird. ^_^ And ahh, sadly I think YoDa will lose this. Protoss all-ins bring him a lot of trouble. It makes him me? This is getting confusing ![]() | ||
Hiea
Denmark1538 Posts
On February 05 2013 20:17 Ilintar wrote: Up&downs are pretty much a lottery - MaNa also got his Code S spot via them some time ago and he showed he's not Code S material yet. It's easy for non-Korean players to win a few random games against Korean pros because of the different playstyles, but it's hard for them to compete on a stable level. Well there is also a difference between the very top of Code S and Code A. BaBy qualified legit for this Code S, went last place in his group and got eliminated today, and so has many other players in the past. Also if you look at MaNa, he lost to TaeJa and MMA, two top, top class players. Same goes for HuK, he lost to Sniper and GuMiho. Someone has to come last, and if you qualified for Code S, at the time you were Code S I don't know why you consider Up n' Downs a lottery, it may be more random, but you still need to be really good in order to qualify, there is a reason why whenever the top players went into the Up n' Downs, they trashed the group and got out easy. | ||
Schelim
Austria11528 Posts
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