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On February 04 2013 18:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away  I like how HotS overall seems to fit the old legends a lot better. Except swarm hosts, nobody will benefit from those. Not the players, not the viewers.
I love the swarmhost you might not like them but their an awesome unit :D
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I think eg-tl has three more games in which they are favored, Revival, Stephano and Hero should win this.
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Austria24417 Posts
On February 04 2013 18:29 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away I like how HotS overall seems to fit the old legends a lot better. Except swarm hosts, nobody will benefit from those. Not the players, not the viewers. I love the swarmhost you might not like them but their an awesome unit :D
Personal preference I guess, I personally hate them haha
Just seems like a unit that's incredibly easy to abuse, especially vs protoss.
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On February 04 2013 18:26 fuzzylogic44 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:25 Elroi wrote:JD But i knew he wasn't doing good, otherwise he would still be in a kespa team imo. Fuck yeah baby! Well played. Let's not exaggerate here, he's 7-7 in PL, narrowly missed Code S, and just won the Kingston Hyper X tournament. Not exactly awful results.
But thats not good for JD's standards... and its not like Flash who didn't make code S because he didn't practice for it, JD really did his best and it wasn't enough.
I love him to death though.
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On February 04 2013 18:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:29 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away I like how HotS overall seems to fit the old legends a lot better. Except swarm hosts, nobody will benefit from those. Not the players, not the viewers. I love the swarmhost you might not like them but their an awesome unit :D Personal preference I guess, I personally hate them haha Just seems like a unit that's incredibly easy to abuse, especially vs protoss.
Swarm Hosts are the main thing that will change zerg to able to be aggressive throughout the game which is the issue at hand
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On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away
Not that I disagree, but JD's best MU atm is ZvZ actually. I think it is mainly because he does well mid-game, and most ZvZs don't go past that stage.
Edit: 5 out of his 7 SPL wins are vZ.
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On February 04 2013 18:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:29 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away I like how HotS overall seems to fit the old legends a lot better. Except swarm hosts, nobody will benefit from those. Not the players, not the viewers. I love the swarmhost you might not like them but their an awesome unit :D Personal preference I guess, I personally hate them haha Just seems like a unit that's incredibly easy to abuse, especially vs protoss.
It's extremely easy to counter too (just get a good amount of colossi and blink stalkers)
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agree on PvP in sc2.. can be pretty entertaining.
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lol, how could reavers stop a four gate, it would have been to late in the tech. xD
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On February 04 2013 18:28 Prince_Stranger wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:25 Elroi wrote:JD But i knew he wasn't doing good, otherwise he would still be in a kespa team imo. Fuck yeah baby! Well played. No. He was ace of Team 8. The best player in this team and after contract ends with EGTL (this september) he is gonna be returned with a lot of experience.
Yeah.. well lets hope team 8 finds a sponsor, though i doubt they will find one
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On February 04 2013 18:28 Flonomenalz wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away Yeah, WoL meta game right now for Zerg is so difficult to be aggressive with (aside from ZvZ, obviously), and that's just not Jaedong's style.
Did you watch Life, DRG, LosirA, Roro and even Nestea (before he threw the game)? Zergs can be aggressive. The meta is no longer stay defensive and mass infestors after the infestor nerfs. It is now building a mobile army to have full map control and spread your creep.
Of course, if your opponent turtles hard, you can't break a 3 base terran early. But that if true for all races. But zergs can definitely keep the terran from taking the 4th for a long long time and just choke him out.
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Jaedong if you win the ace match i will love you forever
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Austria24417 Posts
On February 04 2013 18:32 fuzzylogic44 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 04 2013 18:29 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away I like how HotS overall seems to fit the old legends a lot better. Except swarm hosts, nobody will benefit from those. Not the players, not the viewers. I love the swarmhost you might not like them but their an awesome unit :D Personal preference I guess, I personally hate them haha Just seems like a unit that's incredibly easy to abuse, especially vs protoss. Swarm Hosts are the main thing that will change zerg to able to be aggressive throughout the game which is the issue at hand
Well zerg overall seems a lot more suited for aggression now with muta speed + regeneration, hydra speed and swarm hosts. I just don't like the thought of it when thinking about protoss detection. Oracles + observers are both reaaaally easy to shut down and then nothing can kill the swarm hosts. Which means that free units will trade (effectively) against extremely expensive units and I'll never be a fan of that.
There was a Day9 funday monday with pure HotS units, which is probably a bad example, but one guy did a queen/swarm host all in and barely lost a thing all game while protoss lost insane amounts of resources.
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On February 04 2013 18:32 dcemuser wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away Not that I disagree, but JD's best MU atm is ZvZ actually. I think it is mainly because he does well mid-game, and most ZvZs don't go past that stage. Edit: 5 out of his 7 SPL wins are vZ.
Oh I know. I am one of the biggest jaedong fanboys ever. I just see his zvz being even better in hots then it is in WoL. I just see jaedong in general being really good at hots.
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Lol ZvZ on this map. I think Revival's 10pool speedling build will be a free win here.
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On February 04 2013 18:35 DarkLordOlli wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:32 fuzzylogic44 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:31 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 04 2013 18:29 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:28 DarkLordOlli wrote:On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away I like how HotS overall seems to fit the old legends a lot better. Except swarm hosts, nobody will benefit from those. Not the players, not the viewers. I love the swarmhost you might not like them but their an awesome unit :D Personal preference I guess, I personally hate them haha Just seems like a unit that's incredibly easy to abuse, especially vs protoss. Swarm Hosts are the main thing that will change zerg to able to be aggressive throughout the game which is the issue at hand Well zerg overall seems a lot more suited for aggression now with muta speed + regeneration, hydra speed and swarm hosts. I just don't like the thought of it when thinking about protoss detection. Oracles + observers are both reaaaally easy to shut down and then nothing can kill the swarm hosts. Which means that free units will trade (effectively) against extremely expensive units and I'll never be a fan of that.
That's not true.
Aoe kills swarmhosts without detection because when eggs of locust are poping, lazers and storms are hitting locusts and swarmhosts at the same time.
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On February 04 2013 18:36 blade55555 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 04 2013 18:32 dcemuser wrote:On February 04 2013 18:27 blade55555 wrote:On February 04 2013 18:24 Danzo wrote:On February 04 2013 18:23 Azurues wrote:
JD still lacking the knowledge in sc2 imo
that attack even if he had double his roach amount would fail Well I guess we'll just have to wait and see how he improves in HOTS then. Sad game tho. Running bannelings into tanks with a bunch of vikings >_>. I have said it before and I will keep saying it, hots will be where Jaedong shines. WoL zerg just doesn't fit jaedongs playstyle at all. I will be surprised if he struggles in hots as everything zerg right now is exactly like jaedong likes to play. Very aggressive which is completely viable, zvz is muta wars which I imagine jaedong will love, zvt vs mech you get vipers and swarmhosts and all that. I just don't see jaedong struggling in hots. To bad hots is still a month away Not that I disagree, but JD's best MU atm is ZvZ actually. I think it is mainly because he does well mid-game, and most ZvZs don't go past that stage. Edit: 5 out of his 7 SPL wins are vZ. Oh I know. I am one of the biggest jaedong fanboys ever. I just see his zvz being even better in hots then it is in WoL. I just see jaedong in general being really good at hots.
Yeah me too. Hots generally seems to reward more multitasking and aggression
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