On February 01 2013 19:26 Zelniq wrote: hmm hack hasnt attempted any drops this game right? it doesn't seem like this push--> defensive/4th style without any harass is good..vs almost anything, to me. maybe he knows something i dont know..but it seems to me like such a style would have no chance of success especially vs someone of DRG's caliber
It's so hard to drop vs a map covered in overlords+creep. Compare it to game 1 of Stephano vs Innovation, where Stephano had neither (due to both the map and worse coverage).
improperly said... it's not hard, it just doesn't do anything
on the other hand, feels bad that one of drg/innovation/stephano has to go out along with hack, they all feel deserving at least of ro16
On February 01 2013 19:08 dynwar7 wrote: Thanks guys
Anyone have/remember the BO by innovation? Did he do 1 rax FE first?
Yes. It is the standard 1 rax FE into 2 fac quad hellions. He also skipped the bunker. I think it straight up dies to a 7-8 roach rush.
He had 3 factories
Yes, it was 1 rax FE into 2 fac quad hellions into 3 fac blue flame...
Could you please explain 2 fact quad hellions when you have 1 fact with reactor and 1 with tech lab?
He made 4 hellions before starting factories addons and 3rd fact I guess.
Ah ok in that order. I though he meant 2 fact with reactor into 3rd fact with tech lab. Which I was prety sure was not the case (that would be 5 hellion at a time in the end).
On February 01 2013 19:23 Devolved wrote: The difference in creep spread between Stephano and DRG (or any top Korean Zerg for that matter) is quite large.
Stephano's creep spread in game 1 was pretty good initially untill bogus started making him use his APM elsewhere, which Hack isnt doing here
But if drg is faster he can still do these things and spread creep.
On February 01 2013 19:25 Poopi wrote: Lol I always thought that creep was the most powerful weapon in ZvT, the terran feels like he has just lost if there is too much creep. Glad to see I was right. Hack could not possibly do anything, except hope that DRG was in fact NesTea.
Actually, some of Nestea's issue with ZvT is his creep spread. Not saying he doesn't have other issues, but his creep spread is just not as good as the top zergs now. Which makes him to engage off creep more than most zergs.
On February 01 2013 19:23 Devolved wrote: The difference in creep spread between Stephano and DRG (or any top Korean Zerg for that matter) is quite large.
Stephano's creep spread in game 1 was pretty good initially untill bogus started making him use his APM elsewhere, which Hack isnt doing here
But if drg is faster he can still do these things and spread creep.
I like the word If... it lines up infinite possibilities
On February 01 2013 19:27 mrRoflpwn wrote: I wonder who Hack is practicing with, because that build was just tooo passive.
"Why isn't a 10 pool incoming now? My practice partner Life always does it."
"Why isn't a speedling attack coming now? My practice partner Life always does it."
Nice one.
Bomber actually said in an interview that he doesn't practice with Life for TvZ because Life's style of play is so different to other Zergs that it hurts more then it helps to practice against him
On February 01 2013 19:25 Poopi wrote: Lol I always thought that creep was the most powerful weapon in ZvT, the terran feels like he has just lost if there is too much creep. Glad to see I was right. Hack could not possibly do anything, except hope that DRG was in fact NesTea.
Actually, some of Nestea's issue with ZvT is his creep spread. Not saying he doesn't have other issues, but his creep spread is just not as good as the top zergs now. Which makes him to engage off creep more than most zergs.
I think his late game unit control is his biggest weakness. Even in his prime, he was mostly known for the early-mid game TvZ's, he never had good broodlord infestor control.