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On January 22 2013 21:54 Bjarne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 21:39 krutopatkin wrote:On January 22 2013 21:37 Chill Penguin wrote: Fuck! I can't believe Creator lost that. When Legend showed that it was 33 drones to 55 probes I thought there was no way Creator could lose. I only got a quick shot of it, but I think he messed up the saturation on his natural.
there wasnt a lot to mess up since he mined out his main. WAT?? He lost all his sentrys by one fungal, cause they all stacked the same place. He had won without that mistake. lol
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
fuck yeah Symbol !!! )
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On January 22 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 21:58 prophetGMS wrote:On January 22 2013 21:53 X3GoldDot wrote:On January 22 2013 21:50 prophetGMS wrote:On January 22 2013 21:39 KadaverBB wrote:On January 22 2013 21:38 Berceno wrote: after this game, I only can say that sc2 wol is a fail, its just stupid, and hots doesn't look like is gonna fix this really BAD designed game.... well Weird, how did you come to that conclusion after this fucking nailbiter of a game?^^ same for me because the all in was the perfect counter of Symbol BO but WTF this result is just incredible thanks to free units. It's maybe just a sad and pissed off moment but after the GomTvT and the zerg "imbalance" last year I can't find this game anymore exciting. And HOTS (for me) is also a disaster. SC2 just need some time to find a good balance, we are close to it but no, blizzard arrives with a complete new game. I'm going to cry in front of the last BW OSLs thanks Jangbi and crown prince to offer me this possibility. you will never like sc2 regardless of how good it is because you are living in the past, this is the truth and you cant deny it Maybe but I still enjoy sometimes SC2 but I had so high expectations on it, I'm just now a little bit sad. And as I said WoL started to find a balance with few problems mainly due to map but then HOTS is coming... I prefer a long wait to reach the perfection than just new stuffs to have a quick pleasure :-) Well, to be fair, the game you enjoyed, BW, took quite a long time to refine as well.
Exactly I don't deny that fact. I took few year notably because of the innovation of BW to find the balance. But when this balance was reached BW was close to perfection for a long time. WoL had the possibility to do the same but HOTS is coming with a lot of new problems. We won't have a decent fair and balance game with HOTS before a long time.
But you 're right things have to change but don't do it too fast. (I'm sure LoL is also a problem for Blizzard so they have to move quickly, but it's economics issues it never good for the quality of the game)
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Tastosis were quite funny today. Life with some fantastic timing with his attacks. Symbol I feel his ZvZ is really bad, and needs work on it. His recent results have shown this aswell.
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On January 22 2013 22:00 Bjarne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 21:49 ineversmile wrote: I really wish Creator had gone home when he killed all of the drones from Symbol's main and natural, and was up ~50 to ~30 workers. Go home, sac the pylon, build a Nexus. Maybe he didn't know the drone count, but he could have figured out that he killed 2 full drone pulls in that elongated fight.
I don't blame him for keeping in the fight though--that was right down to the wire, and he had a good shot of ending it outright. 100% right. This game was not about imbalance, it was about all sentrys dieing to one fungal and Creator not using his lead to transition into makro.
fungal shouldn't be able to stunt and make that damage, it's a stupid spell in a stupid unit which could be perfectly a hero in league of legends ( you even micro the infestor the same way ) creator couldn't transition into macro, he was behind in tech and zerg can reach protoss worker count after a ¨failed all in¨ really really fast.
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On January 22 2013 22:06 prophetGMS wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:On January 22 2013 21:58 prophetGMS wrote:On January 22 2013 21:53 X3GoldDot wrote:On January 22 2013 21:50 prophetGMS wrote:On January 22 2013 21:39 KadaverBB wrote:On January 22 2013 21:38 Berceno wrote: after this game, I only can say that sc2 wol is a fail, its just stupid, and hots doesn't look like is gonna fix this really BAD designed game.... well Weird, how did you come to that conclusion after this fucking nailbiter of a game?^^ same for me because the all in was the perfect counter of Symbol BO but WTF this result is just incredible thanks to free units. It's maybe just a sad and pissed off moment but after the GomTvT and the zerg "imbalance" last year I can't find this game anymore exciting. And HOTS (for me) is also a disaster. SC2 just need some time to find a good balance, we are close to it but no, blizzard arrives with a complete new game. I'm going to cry in front of the last BW OSLs thanks Jangbi and crown prince to offer me this possibility. you will never like sc2 regardless of how good it is because you are living in the past, this is the truth and you cant deny it Maybe but I still enjoy sometimes SC2 but I had so high expectations on it, I'm just now a little bit sad. And as I said WoL started to find a balance with few problems mainly due to map but then HOTS is coming... I prefer a long wait to reach the perfection than just new stuffs to have a quick pleasure :-) Well, to be fair, the game you enjoyed, BW, took quite a long time to refine as well. Exactly I don't deny that fact. I took few year notably because of the innovation of BW to find the balance. But when this balance was reached BW was close to perfection for a long time. WoL had the possibility to do the same but HOTS is coming with a lot of new problems. We won't have a decent fair and balance game with HOTS before a long time. But you 're right things have to change but don't do it too fast. (I'm sure LoL is also a problem for Blizzard so they have to move quickly, but it's economics issues it never good for the quality of the game)
I think the schedule for expansions was set before LoL was a threat. We have to remember, regardless of LoL, Blizzard makes their money by selling expansions.
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Leenock and Curious very likely to advance tomorrow.
Huk and MC won't be getting out of their group.
The only hope is on Squirtle but he is been playing pretty mediocre compared to last time.
So the I guess the true hope is resting on Parting shoulder.
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On January 22 2013 14:59 TheBB wrote:Group A Life: 94.69% Creator: 46.64% Symbol: 39.93% ByuL: 18.74% details, data source, codeDetailed placement probabilities
4th 3rd 2nd 1st Creator: 23.81% 29.55% 30.56% 16.08% ByuL: 45.25% 36.01% 16.30% 2.44% Symbol: 29.07% 31.00% 30.97% 8.97% Life: 1.88% 3.44% 22.17% 72.52%
Probability of each pair advancing
Creator ByuL Symbol Life Creator: 0.10% 2.02% 13.97% ByuL: 0.32% 0.38% 1.74% Symbol: 1.75% 0.76% 6.46% Life: 28.50% 15.45% 28.57% All according to plan.
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NOOOOO CREATORRRR Gotta find those VODs...
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Did some one see a single BL today?
I think Korean Zergs are giving up on fast hives since Protoss all-ins and pre-hive timings are quite scary. Life today didn't even get fast thirds in any of his games against creator.
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T_T I wanted Creator to go through  happy about life though
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Terran and Protoss play greedy and rush tech and econ instead of safety, and it's just what they deserved and they should have played safer. Zerg drones to 85, rushes up to infestors, and not only is it somehow totally legitimate, but they get to actually hold out because they can trade energy (fungals, ITs) for economy (actual units). Kinda depressing to say the least.
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5 Protoss go in... 4 Protoss left after day 1... gl hf, MC, HuK, Squirtle, and PartinG.
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On January 22 2013 22:25 oGsTrueSmug wrote: Terran and Protoss play greedy and rush tech and econ instead of safety, and it's just what they deserved and they should have played safer. Zerg drones to 85, rushes up to infestors, and not only is it somehow totally legitimate, but they get to actually hold out because they can trade energy (fungals, ITs) for economy (actual units). Kinda depressing to say the least.
So when Protoss forcefields to trade with insane unit efficiency, or uses Storms to kill a ton of units for energy, does that make you depressed as well?
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On January 22 2013 21:49 GaliX wrote: Just a question: couldn't creator just moved back after killed all the lings? I mean still making pressure but just build the 3rd behind and fall back when its done...
he was 22 workers ahead. I would say it would have been a better decision
its tough to say imo, zerg was still on three hatches so he could equalize worker count pretty fast, also the fact that all his sentries died meant that defending a third base would be pretty difficult if symbol chose to attack
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No VODs for free?
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On January 22 2013 22:39 Alpina wrote:No VODs for free? 
New?
You have to subscribe to GOMTV to watch the VODs.
Only the old VODs in the early GSL are free to watch.
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On January 22 2013 22:09 vthree wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 22:06 prophetGMS wrote:On January 22 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:On January 22 2013 21:58 prophetGMS wrote:On January 22 2013 21:53 X3GoldDot wrote:On January 22 2013 21:50 prophetGMS wrote:On January 22 2013 21:39 KadaverBB wrote:On January 22 2013 21:38 Berceno wrote: after this game, I only can say that sc2 wol is a fail, its just stupid, and hots doesn't look like is gonna fix this really BAD designed game.... well Weird, how did you come to that conclusion after this fucking nailbiter of a game?^^ same for me because the all in was the perfect counter of Symbol BO but WTF this result is just incredible thanks to free units. It's maybe just a sad and pissed off moment but after the GomTvT and the zerg "imbalance" last year I can't find this game anymore exciting. And HOTS (for me) is also a disaster. SC2 just need some time to find a good balance, we are close to it but no, blizzard arrives with a complete new game. I'm going to cry in front of the last BW OSLs thanks Jangbi and crown prince to offer me this possibility. you will never like sc2 regardless of how good it is because you are living in the past, this is the truth and you cant deny it Maybe but I still enjoy sometimes SC2 but I had so high expectations on it, I'm just now a little bit sad. And as I said WoL started to find a balance with few problems mainly due to map but then HOTS is coming... I prefer a long wait to reach the perfection than just new stuffs to have a quick pleasure :-) Well, to be fair, the game you enjoyed, BW, took quite a long time to refine as well. Exactly I don't deny that fact. I took few year notably because of the innovation of BW to find the balance. But when this balance was reached BW was close to perfection for a long time. WoL had the possibility to do the same but HOTS is coming with a lot of new problems. We won't have a decent fair and balance game with HOTS before a long time. But you 're right things have to change but don't do it too fast. (I'm sure LoL is also a problem for Blizzard so they have to move quickly, but it's economics issues it never good for the quality of the game) I think the schedule for expansions was set before LoL was a threat. We have to remember, regardless of LoL, Blizzard makes their money by selling expansions.
And then there's gonna be an expansion after HotS which means balance and gameplay will change once again, so basically we will have to wait what? 3 more years for all the expos to come out? Then another 3 after that to figure the game out? 2020 we'll get to watch good SC2? ZzzZZzZ
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On January 22 2013 22:33 sitromit wrote:Show nested quote +On January 22 2013 22:25 oGsTrueSmug wrote: Terran and Protoss play greedy and rush tech and econ instead of safety, and it's just what they deserved and they should have played safer. Zerg drones to 85, rushes up to infestors, and not only is it somehow totally legitimate, but they get to actually hold out because they can trade energy (fungals, ITs) for economy (actual units). Kinda depressing to say the least. So when Protoss forcefields to trade with insane unit efficiency, or uses Storms to kill a ton of units for energy, does that make you depressed as well?
I think he was more referring to the fact that zergs can hold an all-in even after extremely greedy play. Where as if the reverse happened, the Zerg all in would be impossible to stop.
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