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sparklyresidue
Profile Joined August 2011
United States5524 Posts
January 22 2013 13:01 GMT
#1301
On January 22 2013 21:54 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 21:39 krutopatkin wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:37 Chill Penguin wrote:
Fuck! I can't believe Creator lost that. When Legend showed that it was 33 drones to 55 probes I thought there was no way Creator could lose. I only got a quick shot of it, but I think he messed up the saturation on his natural.





there wasnt a lot to mess up since he mined out his main.



WAT??
He lost all his sentrys by one fungal, cause they all stacked the same place.
He had won without that mistake.

lol
Like Tinkerbelle, I leave behind a sparkly residue.
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
January 22 2013 13:01 GMT
#1302
1 down 4 to go.. :[
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29905 Posts
January 22 2013 13:04 GMT
#1303
fuck yeah Symbol !!! )
WriterSalty oldboy that loves memes | One and only back-to-back Liquibet Winner
prophetGMS
Profile Joined November 2012
France129 Posts
January 22 2013 13:06 GMT
#1304
On January 22 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 21:58 prophetGMS wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:53 X3GoldDot wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:50 prophetGMS wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:39 KadaverBB wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:38 Berceno wrote:
after this game, I only can say that sc2 wol is a fail, its just stupid, and hots doesn't look like is gonna fix this really BAD designed game.... well


Weird, how did you come to that conclusion after this fucking nailbiter of a game?^^


same for me
because the all in was the perfect counter of Symbol BO but WTF this result is just incredible thanks to free units.

It's maybe just a sad and pissed off moment but after the GomTvT and the zerg "imbalance" last year I can't find this game anymore exciting.

And HOTS (for me) is also a disaster. SC2 just need some time to find a good balance, we are close to it but no, blizzard arrives with a complete new game.

I'm going to cry in front of the last BW OSLs
thanks Jangbi and crown prince to offer me this possibility.

you will never like sc2 regardless of how good it is because you are living in the past, this is the truth and you cant deny it



Maybe but I still enjoy sometimes SC2 but I had so high expectations on it, I'm just now a little bit sad. And as I said WoL started to find a balance with few problems mainly due to map but then HOTS is coming...

I prefer a long wait to reach the perfection than just new stuffs to have a quick pleasure :-)


Well, to be fair, the game you enjoyed, BW, took quite a long time to refine as well.



Exactly I don't deny that fact. I took few year notably because of the innovation of BW to find the balance. But when this balance was reached BW was close to perfection for a long time. WoL had the possibility to do the same but HOTS is coming with a lot of new problems. We won't have a decent fair and balance game with HOTS before a long time.

But you 're right things have to change but don't do it too fast. (I'm sure LoL is also a problem for Blizzard so they have to move quickly, but it's economics issues it never good for the quality of the game)
BroodWar for ever
TAMinator
Profile Joined February 2011
Australia2706 Posts
January 22 2013 13:07 GMT
#1305
Tastosis were quite funny today. Life with some fantastic timing with his attacks. Symbol I feel his ZvZ is really bad, and needs work on it. His recent results have shown this aswell.
Berceno
Profile Joined May 2012
Spain401 Posts
January 22 2013 13:07 GMT
#1306
On January 22 2013 22:00 Bjarne wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 21:49 ineversmile wrote:
I really wish Creator had gone home when he killed all of the drones from Symbol's main and natural, and was up ~50 to ~30 workers. Go home, sac the pylon, build a Nexus. Maybe he didn't know the drone count, but he could have figured out that he killed 2 full drone pulls in that elongated fight.

I don't blame him for keeping in the fight though--that was right down to the wire, and he had a good shot of ending it outright.



100% right.
This game was not about imbalance, it was about all sentrys dieing to one fungal and Creator not using his lead to transition into makro.




fungal shouldn't be able to stunt and make that damage, it's a stupid spell in a stupid unit which could be perfectly a hero in league of legends ( you even micro the infestor the same way ) creator couldn't transition into macro, he was behind in tech and zerg can reach protoss worker count after a ¨failed all in¨ really really fast.
protoss living in da ghetto
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 22 2013 13:09 GMT
#1307
On January 22 2013 22:06 prophetGMS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:58 prophetGMS wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:53 X3GoldDot wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:50 prophetGMS wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:39 KadaverBB wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:38 Berceno wrote:
after this game, I only can say that sc2 wol is a fail, its just stupid, and hots doesn't look like is gonna fix this really BAD designed game.... well


Weird, how did you come to that conclusion after this fucking nailbiter of a game?^^


same for me
because the all in was the perfect counter of Symbol BO but WTF this result is just incredible thanks to free units.

It's maybe just a sad and pissed off moment but after the GomTvT and the zerg "imbalance" last year I can't find this game anymore exciting.

And HOTS (for me) is also a disaster. SC2 just need some time to find a good balance, we are close to it but no, blizzard arrives with a complete new game.

I'm going to cry in front of the last BW OSLs
thanks Jangbi and crown prince to offer me this possibility.

you will never like sc2 regardless of how good it is because you are living in the past, this is the truth and you cant deny it



Maybe but I still enjoy sometimes SC2 but I had so high expectations on it, I'm just now a little bit sad. And as I said WoL started to find a balance with few problems mainly due to map but then HOTS is coming...

I prefer a long wait to reach the perfection than just new stuffs to have a quick pleasure :-)


Well, to be fair, the game you enjoyed, BW, took quite a long time to refine as well.



Exactly I don't deny that fact. I took few year notably because of the innovation of BW to find the balance. But when this balance was reached BW was close to perfection for a long time. WoL had the possibility to do the same but HOTS is coming with a lot of new problems. We won't have a decent fair and balance game with HOTS before a long time.

But you 're right things have to change but don't do it too fast. (I'm sure LoL is also a problem for Blizzard so they have to move quickly, but it's economics issues it never good for the quality of the game)


I think the schedule for expansions was set before LoL was a threat. We have to remember, regardless of LoL, Blizzard makes their money by selling expansions.
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-22 13:12:29
January 22 2013 13:10 GMT
#1308
Leenock and Curious very likely to advance tomorrow.

Huk and MC won't be getting out of their group.

The only hope is on Squirtle but he is been playing pretty mediocre compared to last time.

So the I guess the true hope is resting on Parting shoulder.
Play your best
TheBB
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Switzerland5133 Posts
January 22 2013 13:14 GMT
#1309
On January 22 2013 14:59 TheBB wrote:
Group A

      Life: 94.69%
      Creator: 46.64%
      Symbol: 39.93%
      ByuL: 18.74%

details, data source, code

Detailed placement probabilities

4th 3rd 2nd 1st
Creator: 23.81% 29.55% 30.56% 16.08%
ByuL: 45.25% 36.01% 16.30% 2.44%
Symbol: 29.07% 31.00% 30.97% 8.97%
Life: 1.88% 3.44% 22.17% 72.52%

Probability of each pair advancing

Creator ByuL Symbol Life
Creator: 0.10% 2.02% 13.97%
ByuL: 0.32% 0.38% 1.74%
Symbol: 1.75% 0.76% 6.46%
Life: 28.50% 15.45% 28.57%

All according to plan.
http://aligulac.com || Barcraft Switzerland! || Zerg best race. || Stats-poster extraordinaire.
iremnant3847
Profile Joined June 2012
Taiwan269 Posts
January 22 2013 13:15 GMT
#1310
NOOOOO CREATORRRR
Gotta find those VODs...
Herect
Profile Joined January 2012
Brazil216 Posts
January 22 2013 13:16 GMT
#1311
Did some one see a single BL today?

I think Korean Zergs are giving up on fast hives since Protoss all-ins and pre-hive timings are quite scary. Life today didn't even get fast thirds in any of his games against creator.
MCDayC
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom14464 Posts
January 22 2013 13:23 GMT
#1312
T_T I wanted Creator to go through
happy about life though
VERY FRAGILE, LIKE A BABY PANDA EGG
oGsTrueSmug
Profile Joined September 2012
England141 Posts
January 22 2013 13:25 GMT
#1313
Terran and Protoss play greedy and rush tech and econ instead of safety, and it's just what they deserved and they should have played safer.
Zerg drones to 85, rushes up to infestors, and not only is it somehow totally legitimate, but they get to actually hold out because they can trade energy (fungals, ITs) for economy (actual units).
Kinda depressing to say the least.
Elite_
Profile Joined June 2012
United States4259 Posts
January 22 2013 13:31 GMT
#1314
5 Protoss go in... 4 Protoss left after day 1... gl hf, MC, HuK, Squirtle, and PartinG.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
January 22 2013 13:33 GMT
#1315
On January 22 2013 22:25 oGsTrueSmug wrote:
Terran and Protoss play greedy and rush tech and econ instead of safety, and it's just what they deserved and they should have played safer.
Zerg drones to 85, rushes up to infestors, and not only is it somehow totally legitimate, but they get to actually hold out because they can trade energy (fungals, ITs) for economy (actual units).
Kinda depressing to say the least.


So when Protoss forcefields to trade with insane unit efficiency, or uses Storms to kill a ton of units for energy, does that make you depressed as well?
polishedturd
Profile Joined October 2010
United States505 Posts
January 22 2013 13:34 GMT
#1316
On January 22 2013 21:49 GaliX wrote:
Just a question:
couldn't creator just moved back after killed all the lings? I mean still making pressure but just build the 3rd behind and fall back when its done...

he was 22 workers ahead. I would say it would have been a better decision


its tough to say imo, zerg was still on three hatches so he could equalize worker count pretty fast, also the fact that all his sentries died meant that defending a third base would be pretty difficult if symbol chose to attack
http://i.imgur.com/EbrnM.jpg
ALPINA
Profile Joined May 2010
3791 Posts
January 22 2013 13:39 GMT
#1317
No VODs for free?
You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity
FakeDeath
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia6060 Posts
January 22 2013 13:41 GMT
#1318
On January 22 2013 22:39 Alpina wrote:
No VODs for free?


New?

You have to subscribe to GOMTV to watch the VODs.

Only the old VODs in the early GSL are free to watch.
Play your best
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
January 22 2013 13:41 GMT
#1319
On January 22 2013 22:09 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 22:06 prophetGMS wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:59 vthree wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:58 prophetGMS wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:53 X3GoldDot wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:50 prophetGMS wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:39 KadaverBB wrote:
On January 22 2013 21:38 Berceno wrote:
after this game, I only can say that sc2 wol is a fail, its just stupid, and hots doesn't look like is gonna fix this really BAD designed game.... well


Weird, how did you come to that conclusion after this fucking nailbiter of a game?^^


same for me
because the all in was the perfect counter of Symbol BO but WTF this result is just incredible thanks to free units.

It's maybe just a sad and pissed off moment but after the GomTvT and the zerg "imbalance" last year I can't find this game anymore exciting.

And HOTS (for me) is also a disaster. SC2 just need some time to find a good balance, we are close to it but no, blizzard arrives with a complete new game.

I'm going to cry in front of the last BW OSLs
thanks Jangbi and crown prince to offer me this possibility.

you will never like sc2 regardless of how good it is because you are living in the past, this is the truth and you cant deny it



Maybe but I still enjoy sometimes SC2 but I had so high expectations on it, I'm just now a little bit sad. And as I said WoL started to find a balance with few problems mainly due to map but then HOTS is coming...

I prefer a long wait to reach the perfection than just new stuffs to have a quick pleasure :-)


Well, to be fair, the game you enjoyed, BW, took quite a long time to refine as well.



Exactly I don't deny that fact. I took few year notably because of the innovation of BW to find the balance. But when this balance was reached BW was close to perfection for a long time. WoL had the possibility to do the same but HOTS is coming with a lot of new problems. We won't have a decent fair and balance game with HOTS before a long time.

But you 're right things have to change but don't do it too fast. (I'm sure LoL is also a problem for Blizzard so they have to move quickly, but it's economics issues it never good for the quality of the game)


I think the schedule for expansions was set before LoL was a threat. We have to remember, regardless of LoL, Blizzard makes their money by selling expansions.


And then there's gonna be an expansion after HotS which means balance and gameplay will change once again, so basically we will have to wait what? 3 more years for all the expos to come out? Then another 3 after that to figure the game out? 2020 we'll get to watch good SC2? ZzzZZzZ
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
January 22 2013 13:42 GMT
#1320
On January 22 2013 22:33 sitromit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2013 22:25 oGsTrueSmug wrote:
Terran and Protoss play greedy and rush tech and econ instead of safety, and it's just what they deserved and they should have played safer.
Zerg drones to 85, rushes up to infestors, and not only is it somehow totally legitimate, but they get to actually hold out because they can trade energy (fungals, ITs) for economy (actual units).
Kinda depressing to say the least.


So when Protoss forcefields to trade with insane unit efficiency, or uses Storms to kill a ton of units for energy, does that make you depressed as well?


I think he was more referring to the fact that zergs can hold an all-in even after extremely greedy play. Where as if the reverse happened, the Zerg all in would be impossible to stop.
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