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On January 21 2013 16:43 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:42 BlazeFury01 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:42 kevinmon wrote: HERO IS GOSU More Jaehoons mistake then Hero's gosuness. He had 3 zealots following 1 to his base. I agree that it was a terrible move to chase 1 zealot with 3 zealots but that doesn't change the fact that Hero had some amazing micro that helped him hold as well. Even with that big mistake from Jaehoon, Hero still wouldn't have held if he didn't micro amazingly at the end there.
It's not hard to micro 3 stalkers vs slow zealots lol especially when you have probe support.
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1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
On January 21 2013 16:43 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:42 Instigata wrote: Jaehoon fell for the dummy pull lolzzzzzz should be 3-1 If you're gonna say it should be 3-1, it should have been 2-1 when Stephano threw away like 30 supply for free. Can't pretend a shitty game isn't valid.
He isn't saying it doesn't count, he's saying Jaehoon let his team down by screwing that up so badly =/
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On January 21 2013 16:44 Fusilero wrote:He couldn't recall how to.
Well played sir
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On January 21 2013 16:42 BlazeFury01 wrote:More Jaehoons mistake then Hero's gosuness. He had 3 zealots following 1 to his base. Jaehoon didn't play that perfectly, but Hero still could have lost, he still had to deal with a ton of zealots without very little. Give the guy some credit
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HerO is one of the best Protoss when it comes to micro, I don't understand why Jaehoon would chose a 2 gate build.
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On January 21 2013 16:43 veKtory wrote: That was more Argo chasing 1 zealot all the way back to his base and throwing the game more than HerO winning it lol.
As a huge herO fan, this is pretty much 100% true, but it was still sick micro. Plus you have to give hero credit for sending that zealot back to his opponents base.
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Obviously the zealot chase was what made it even possible for HerO to survive, but he did an incredible job slipping his Stalkers past the Zealots when they were close to being trapped near the edge of his base.
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On January 21 2013 16:40 bankobauss wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:37 BlazeFury01 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:35 lichter wrote:On January 21 2013 16:33 Dosey wrote:On January 21 2013 16:30 dsousa wrote:On January 21 2013 16:28 bankobauss wrote: I seriously believe stephanos massive balls and belief in himself costed him that game more than his skill
stephano KNOWS he could have easily beaten argo by going infestor broodlords mass fungals, but he wanted to try to prove a point that he can win with hydras
sigh sigh sigh stephano. he was MASSIVELY ahead right after defending the all-in, just zip straight to hive ASAP and win ez He stubbornly refused to make infestors that game. He probably still would have won, but Argo made all the right FF's and controlled every engagement. Again, it's not that he refused, it's that he COULDN'T after losing so badly at Jaehoons third. The game was pretty much lost there unless Jaehoon went into Failhoon mode and forgot to press FFFFFF. If he had pre-built the infestation pit instead of the spire (he made the spire I think 2 mins after the first all in) maybe he would have gotten infestors. But he expected colossi and it never came. Even if he had of pre-built it he wouldn't have enough gas to make them. Keep in mind to do this he would have had to cut roach/hydra production. If he had cut his production he would have died to Jaehoon's force. no. stephano was massively ahead after defending the 2base attack. jaehoon had no third and had to either defend a third or stay on 2 bases if stephano zipped to infestors right after defending the 2base attack, he would have had infestors out in time to beat any future attack. Pretty sure you're agreeing with everyone that you're arguing against. We all said that the botched attack at the 3rd was the turning point. Of course if he doesn't attack and techs up, he wins. We are (or at least i am) saying that he couldn't possibly transition AFTER that botched attack because Jaehoons army was much too large. As soon as Stephano were to try to transition, Jaehoon would just straight up kill him.
Looks like failhoon rears his ugly head again.
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On January 21 2013 16:43 HolyArrow wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:42 BlazeFury01 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:42 kevinmon wrote: HERO IS GOSU More Jaehoons mistake then Hero's gosuness. He had 3 zealots following 1 to his base. I agree that it was a terrible move to chase 1 zealot with 3 zealots but that doesn't change the fact that Hero had some amazing micro that helped him hold as well. Even with that big mistake from Jaehoon, Hero still wouldn't have held if he didn't micro amazingly at the end there.
Come on, don't lie here. He almost lost 2 stalkers to zealots.... He even almost blocked he stalkers into death twice with probes >.> He held on really well, but was far from amazing micro :p Though, you're sort of right. If you survive until 2 stalkers the game is pretty much over.
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That took both brilliant play from HerO and a mistake from Jaehoon, each does not diminish the significance of the other
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On January 21 2013 16:44 Fusilero wrote:He couldn't recall how to.
Oh man. I remember that. Also they won't be sending out Major for a couple of rounds. I think i read in an interview that he isn't at that level yet.
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On January 21 2013 16:45 Thinasy wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:44 Fusilero wrote:On January 21 2013 16:43 polgas wrote: It seems like Jaehoon can't micro. He couldn't recall how to. Well played sir
Hahaha i get actually get this reference!
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Bisutopia19152 Posts
On January 21 2013 16:44 mambar wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:44 Fusilero wrote:On January 21 2013 16:43 polgas wrote: It seems like Jaehoon can't micro. He couldn't recall how to. lol Such a subtle pun. Love it.
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Kespa players are really weird to watch. They manage to win against top players but then they do really weird shit, in all honesty I think I could do a better 10-10 attack.
Cause it is like literary the easiest build in the game to do. That's why everyone does it in the lower leagues, all the time x)
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On January 21 2013 16:42 BlazeFury01 wrote:More Jaehoons mistake then Hero's gosuness. He had 3 zealots following 1 to his base. Honestly, both. HerO's micro was also absolutely beatiful even if it shouldn't have worked if Jaehoon didn't messed up
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On January 21 2013 16:45 Alryk wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:43 veKtory wrote: That was more Argo chasing 1 zealot all the way back to his base and throwing the game more than HerO winning it lol. As a huge herO fan, this is pretty much 100% true, but it was still sick micro. Plus you have to give hero credit for sending that zealot back to his opponents base.
It would have been sick micro to me if Hero didn't pull the probes to defend and just used the Stalker.
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On January 21 2013 16:44 BlazeFury01 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:43 HolyArrow wrote:On January 21 2013 16:42 BlazeFury01 wrote:On January 21 2013 16:42 kevinmon wrote: HERO IS GOSU More Jaehoons mistake then Hero's gosuness. He had 3 zealots following 1 to his base. I agree that it was a terrible move to chase 1 zealot with 3 zealots but that doesn't change the fact that Hero had some amazing micro that helped him hold as well. Even with that big mistake from Jaehoon, Hero still wouldn't have held if he didn't micro amazingly at the end there. It's not hard to micro 3 stalkers vs slow zealots lol especially when you have probe support.
It's pretty hard to micro 3 stalkers vs 4-6 zealots and keep your probes alive though. Especially when you don't actually have 3 stalkers to start with.
Edit: To your above post.... then all of his probes would have died? XD
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United States97274 Posts
On January 21 2013 16:45 MysteryMeat1 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 21 2013 16:44 Fusilero wrote:On January 21 2013 16:43 polgas wrote: It seems like Jaehoon can't micro. He couldn't recall how to. Oh man. I remember that. Also they won't be sending out Major for a couple of rounds. I think i read in an interview that he isn't at that level yet. I believe Terminator said hopefully he'll be good enough by round 3 and Argo said Major needed to work on his skill to be sent out
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On January 21 2013 16:43 figq wrote: What I don't get in such situations is: it's pretty much all-in, the chances of transitioning out of it without just killing the enemy are slim; then why not pull some decent amount of probes to help the attack? If he focused the pylons a bit better, he could have won.
He prefered to be able to continuosly reinforce with new zealots.
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