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GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
January 14 2013 18:04 GMT
#1681
Why do they even bother to send PuMa ?
I mean he's not that bad, but they have far better player and qualified in XvP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
RezChi
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada2368 Posts
January 14 2013 18:05 GMT
#1682
JANGBANGBANG FUCKFUCK YEAH

Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 14 2013 18:12 GMT
#1683
On January 14 2013 19:30 Dosey wrote:
Oh I had forgotten about Puma.
Yep, EG-TL plans on losing with JYP in the ace again.

GG, it's bedtime.

I would have actually preferred JYP over Revival on that map...

Still, glad I didn't stay up.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 18:19:27
January 14 2013 18:15 GMT
#1684
On January 15 2013 02:58 MetalxStorm wrote:
I dont wanna be a EGTL hater, but i have to ask why they keep sending out JYP as an ace or Puma who hasnt been playing well recently. I think if they threw out Taeja instead of Puma its a win


I don't think you're being a hater. I definitely want to see EGTL succeed, and I have had similar questions.

Taeja is currently injured, so they can't currently use him, which makes it hard since he's arguably the best player on the team.

However, a lot of the decisions I've seen from the coaching staff seem questionable to me. Obviously I am just a fan and by no means qualified to run an SC2 Proleague team (this is a fansite though, so why not have some speculation), but some of the decisions just seem weird to me. For example, running HuK out on a KeSPA only map the other night seemed totally bizarre. The guy just qualified for Code S and was clearly devoting his time to that, so it's unclear how prepared he was for Proleague, let alone a map he hadn't practiced much. Last night they must've felt Jangbi would Immortal Sentry all in Jaedong (which he's seemed pretty terrible at holding), or Jaedong wasn't able to play, otherwise I don't see any reason not to use him. I also really question leading off with Stephano, since he has a clear bad matchup (ZvZ) and ton of game tape for any opponent to watch and try to make a build specifically to counter him. He's a great player, but he seems like the guy you'd want to throw out there midway through the series to cause chaos.

These guys know way more than me, and there's probably a ton of practicing behind the scenes (preparing snipe builds, etc) that we're not privy to that leads to these decisions though, so for now I'm just going to trust that the coaches have good plans that just aren't panning out yet.

EDIT: Jaedong apparently had jet lag issues. That's a bummer, but explains a lot.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
January 14 2013 18:16 GMT
#1685
Jangbi screwing my fantasy team hard.
atrox_
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom1711 Posts
January 14 2013 18:16 GMT
#1686
so glad to see the return of the jangbang, hope it stays around for a while
GraFx
Profile Joined May 2010
United States429 Posts
January 14 2013 18:18 GMT
#1687
Went to sleep after HerO beat Roro because I knew it JangBi wasn't very good in comparison.

Hah.
Boundz(DarKo)
Profile Joined March 2009
5311 Posts
January 14 2013 18:41 GMT
#1688
That's... unfortunate.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
January 14 2013 18:45 GMT
#1689
On January 14 2013 23:27 skYTosS wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2013 23:16 LimeNade wrote:
On January 14 2013 22:55 Zealously wrote:
On January 14 2013 22:51 LimeNade wrote:
Not sure why they started Stephano. He has stated ZvZ multiple times is his weakest MU. Should wait to use him when u know he will face a T or P for his first match imo


Players aren't announced in advance, I think, so there is no way to know who'll be sent out.


Yea but what I am saying is if you don't put him out there first you can guarantee that he will at least not have to play a ZvZ for his first match unless a zerg from the opposing team is all killing.


Against rookie's first appearance, can't get a better deal than this though. Even if he's bad at ZvZ, he should have an edge going into the game. EG-TL can't afford best player only plays as a sniper.

Hmm... complete unknown in all aspects of a game vs the most studied foreigner in the game who is notoriously bad at ZvZ...

In PL format, I take the unknown 99% of the time.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
January 14 2013 18:49 GMT
#1690
stephano would have been a great choice against jangbi if they didn't put him in first :/
you live and you learn
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
January 14 2013 19:12 GMT
#1691
how do you lose to khan
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
January 14 2013 19:17 GMT
#1692
JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
Inviteme
Profile Joined June 2011
United States165 Posts
January 14 2013 19:18 GMT
#1693
proleague is all about who is more hungry to win a game.... and all kespa players already experienced so much that they know
that they want to win every single game so badly... EGTL has skill but they are not hungry enough
asdf
KamikazeDurrrp
Profile Joined January 2012
United States95 Posts
January 14 2013 19:30 GMT
#1694
What if the coaching staff is a plant by Kespa and koreans to intentionally make a foreign team look bad by having legitimately good players constantly playing in bad situations in order to make Kespa and koreans look superior to foreigners? I mean, with all the hate the coaching staff is getting this is the only way you can answer how confusing their actions have been. CONSPIRACY THEORIES AHOY!!!!!!!!!!!
taLbuk
Profile Joined April 2010
Madagascar1879 Posts
January 14 2013 19:35 GMT
#1695
On January 15 2013 04:17 SwizzY wrote:
JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought


and your thought is implying?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 14 2013 19:44 GMT
#1696
On January 15 2013 04:35 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 04:17 SwizzY wrote:
JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought


and your thought is implying?


JYP is the only EGTL player on my team and is earning me a lot

He's a dependable go-to that gets sent regularly and wins more often than not. Won't really get sniped because he's not Taeja/Stephano/Jaedong/Hero and plays a standard game well enough to be well rounded in all matches (for the most part)
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
HotGlueGun
Profile Joined January 2012
United States1409 Posts
January 14 2013 19:47 GMT
#1697
Puma has been playing well in IPTL for EG, and he played decent against Yonghwa at the hyperX las Vegas tourney so it's odd to see him play so poorly in Proleague. He probably does well in practice which is coach keeps sending him out.
Don't hoot with the Owls at night if you cant soar with the Eagles at dawn.
SniperVul5
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada166 Posts
January 14 2013 19:52 GMT
#1698
Another quintessential series to suggest foreigner teams (even with koreans) simply cannot stand up to korean teams that actually practice well and play better under pressure. It's disappointing that ESF players can't play in proleague... they'd be worth watching.

therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
January 14 2013 19:54 GMT
#1699
this sucks. I had taeja as my captain and he's never played
hangarninetysix
Profile Joined August 2010
263 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 20:02:47
January 14 2013 19:59 GMT
#1700
On January 15 2013 04:17 SwizzY wrote:
JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought


That's suprising, I thought JYP was doing better than that.

EDIT - oh, you meant 6 losses, not 13 losses. Still a little suprising though.
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