On January 15 2013 02:58 MetalxStorm wrote:
I dont wanna be a EGTL hater, but i have to ask why they keep sending out JYP as an ace or Puma who hasnt been playing well recently. I think if they threw out Taeja instead of Puma its a win

I don't think you're being a hater. I definitely want to see EGTL succeed, and I have had similar questions.

Taeja is currently injured, so they can't currently use him, which makes it hard since he's arguably the best player on the team.

However, a lot of the decisions I've seen from the coaching staff seem questionable to me. Obviously I am just a fan and by no means qualified to run an SC2 Proleague team (this is a fansite though, so why not have some speculation), but some of the decisions just seem weird to me. For example, running HuK out on a KeSPA only map the other night seemed totally bizarre. The guy just qualified for Code S and was clearly devoting his time to that, so it's unclear how prepared he was for Proleague, let alone a map he hadn't practiced much. Last night they must've felt Jangbi would Immortal Sentry all in Jaedong (which he's seemed pretty terrible at holding), or Jaedong wasn't able to play, otherwise I don't see any reason not to use him. I also really question leading off with Stephano, since he has a clear bad matchup (ZvZ) and ton of game tape for any opponent to watch and try to make a build specifically to counter him. He's a great player, but he seems like the guy you'd want to throw out there midway through the series to cause chaos.

These guys know way more than me, and there's probably a ton of practicing behind the scenes (preparing snipe builds, etc) that we're not privy to that leads to these decisions though, so for now I'm just going to trust that the coaches have good plans that just aren't panning out yet.

EDIT: Jaedong apparently had jet lag issues. That's a bummer, but explains a lot.

LockeTazeline

2390 Posts

January 14 2013 18:16 GMT

#1685

Jangbi screwing my fantasy team hard.

atrox_

United Kingdom1711 Posts

January 14 2013 18:16 GMT

#1686

so glad to see the return of the jangbang, hope it stays around for a while

GraFx

United States429 Posts

January 14 2013 18:18 GMT

#1687

Went to sleep after HerO beat Roro because I knew it JangBi wasn't very good in comparison.

Hah.

Boundz(DarKo)

5311 Posts

January 14 2013 18:41 GMT

#1688

That's... unfortunate.

Dosey

United States4505 Posts

January 14 2013 18:45 GMT

#1689

On January 14 2013 23:27 skYTosS wrote:

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Against rookie's first appearance, can't get a better deal than this though. Even if he's bad at ZvZ, he should have an edge going into the game. EG-TL can't afford best player only plays as a sniper.

Hmm... complete unknown in all aspects of a game vs the most studied foreigner in the game who is notoriously bad at ZvZ...

In PL format, I take the unknown 99% of the time.

illsick

United States1770 Posts

January 14 2013 18:49 GMT

#1690

stephano would have been a great choice against jangbi if they didn't put him in first :/

redFF

United States3910 Posts

January 14 2013 19:12 GMT

#1691

how do you lose to khan

SwizzY

United States1549 Posts

January 14 2013 19:17 GMT

#1692

JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought

Inviteme

United States165 Posts

January 14 2013 19:18 GMT

#1693

proleague is all about who is more hungry to win a game.... and all kespa players already experienced so much that they know
that they want to win every single game so badly... EGTL has skill but they are not hungry enough

KamikazeDurrrp

United States95 Posts

January 14 2013 19:30 GMT

#1694

What if the coaching staff is a plant by Kespa and koreans to intentionally make a foreign team look bad by having legitimately good players constantly playing in bad situations in order to make Kespa and koreans look superior to foreigners? I mean, with all the hate the coaching staff is getting this is the only way you can answer how confusing their actions have been. CONSPIRACY THEORIES AHOY!!!!!!!!!!!

taLbuk

Madagascar1879 Posts

January 14 2013 19:35 GMT

#1695

On January 15 2013 04:17 SwizzY wrote:
JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought

and your thought is implying?

Thieving Magpie

United States6752 Posts

January 14 2013 19:44 GMT

#1696

On January 15 2013 04:35 taLbuk wrote:

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and your thought is implying?

JYP is the only EGTL player on my team and is earning me a lot

He's a dependable go-to that gets sent regularly and wins more often than not. Won't really get sniped because he's not Taeja/Stephano/Jaedong/Hero and plays a standard game well enough to be well rounded in all matches (for the most part)

HotGlueGun

United States1409 Posts

January 14 2013 19:47 GMT

#1697

Puma has been playing well in IPTL for EG, and he played decent against Yonghwa at the hyperX las Vegas tourney so it's odd to see him play so poorly in Proleague. He probably does well in practice which is coach keeps sending him out.

SniperVul5

Canada166 Posts

January 14 2013 19:52 GMT

#1698

Another quintessential series to suggest foreigner teams (even with koreans) simply cannot stand up to korean teams that actually practice well and play better under pressure. It's disappointing that ESF players can't play in proleague... they'd be worth watching.

therabit

795 Posts

January 14 2013 19:54 GMT

#1699

this sucks. I had taeja as my captain and he's never played

hangarninetysix

263 Posts

January 14 2013 19:59 GMT

#1700

On January 15 2013 04:17 SwizzY wrote:
JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought

That's suprising, I thought JYP was doing better than that.

EDIT - oh, you meant 6 losses, not 13 losses. Still a little suprising though.