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CeriseCherries
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
6170 Posts
January 14 2013 22:58 GMT
#1721
Fuck me. EGTL got jangbanged
Remember, no matter where you go, there you are.
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-14 23:21:16
January 14 2013 23:19 GMT
#1722
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out
SamsungStar
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
United States912 Posts
January 14 2013 23:30 GMT
#1723
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


Lol maybe they picked up JD's coach from OZ along with JD too.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
January 14 2013 23:32 GMT
#1724
On January 15 2013 08:30 SamsungStar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


Lol maybe they picked up JD's coach from OZ along with JD too.

Then they should be riding him as hard as he can possibly be ridden and then a little harder
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
jinorazi
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)4948 Posts
January 14 2013 23:35 GMT
#1725
the great zhang fei rises again
age: 84 | location: california | sex: 잘함
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
January 14 2013 23:40 GMT
#1726
Yes go Khan!!!! I wasn't able to stay up late enough to watch their games, but I'm so happy they managed to pull through!
chosenkerrigan
Profile Joined May 2011
858 Posts
January 14 2013 23:42 GMT
#1727
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


Because they stupidly believe stephano could all kill.
DamnCats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1472 Posts
January 14 2013 23:53 GMT
#1728
On January 15 2013 05:50 SamsungStar wrote:
This is karma for those who dared to put the last OSL champion on their anti-team. Shame on you all! No respect for the king!!


:[
Disciples of a god, that neither lives nor breathes.
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
January 14 2013 23:59 GMT
#1729
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


Jaedong apparently had jetlag issues (I dunno why/how exactly, just what I saw written earlier), and Taeja is injured. In terms of players that are SPL trustworthy that leaves you JYP, Revival, Hero, and Stephano. Still when you look at that group of players I have no idea why you would start with Stephano, even if he doesn't really know the new maps. Stephano's preparation for games isn't his strong point, he has a clear weak matchup in ZvZ, and he has hours upon hours of game tape to study. On top of that he's apparently been sick lately.

While they were missing basically their 2 best players, it doesn't seem like EGTL put themselves in a position for their players to succeed. However, the bigger wtf decision to me is the use of HuK the other night when he's clearly been focused on GSL and they put him in on a KeSPA map he'd be relatively unfamiliar with if he's been grinding for GSL.
starfinder
Profile Joined March 2012
Japan167 Posts
January 15 2013 00:10 GMT
#1730
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


Cause stephano wants a all-kill.

Samsung looks so weak. and 4 ladder maps in a row.what a best chance for ALLKILL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!LOL

sM.Zik
Profile Joined June 2011
Canada2551 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:16:45
January 15 2013 00:16 GMT
#1731
I seriously think I would do a better job at picking players than the coach... And the lack of Jaedong is disturbing, jet lag shouldnt be an issue anymore he fucking had decent results in the wildcards GSL 2 days ago, when he just got in korea.
Jaedong Fighting! | youtube.com/ZikGaming
Steel
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Japan2283 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:20:15
January 15 2013 00:19 GMT
#1732
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


I agree. JYP as ace last game and now sending out Puma? I understand JD had some jetlag issues (not sure what though, he came back for up and downs then left again or what? Highly doubt it.) and Taeja is injured, but still. You trust JYP as Ace then he doesn't play? Why send Puma over Thorzain who has been doing better, and over Huk who has won some PvPs against some high level players. The odds that a lesser skilled player wins a PvP are higher than any other matchup so I'd put my faith on that especially since you just saw his PvP. An ace player who all ins on the biggest map out there? He trusts his all in over a macro game...come on! There's no reason to send Puma, if he loses your opponent has so much momentum.

The cake goes to Revival, who throws down the quick spire without an evo chamber. Did you even think about the flaws of your build before you decided to do it? I guess Stargate play is surprising, no one has been doing that of late in korean PvZ! Seriously though, over the past ~2 weeks all PvZ in proleague and GSL have been stargate, pick a build thats safe against it or at least scout, what the hell are you thinking!!!!

EG-TL could be doing so much better if the captain/coach was doing his job, it's frustrating.
Try another route paperboy.
zhurai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States5660 Posts
January 15 2013 00:23 GMT
#1733
wait, why wasn't taeja sent out :|
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Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-15 00:30:29
January 15 2013 00:30 GMT
#1734
On January 15 2013 09:19 Steel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


You trust JYP as Ace then he doesn't play?


I hadn't thought about this part, that's really silly. It'd be nice to see some consistency, that'd help evaluate players for later rounds as well.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 15 2013 00:39 GMT
#1735
On January 15 2013 09:30 Swords wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 09:19 Steel wrote:
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


You trust JYP as Ace then he doesn't play?


I hadn't thought about this part, that's really silly. It'd be nice to see some consistency, that'd help evaluate players for later rounds as well.


I trust JYP in any position. So long as its Team League... solo no no
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
WigglingSquid
Profile Joined August 2011
5194 Posts
January 15 2013 00:42 GMT
#1736
I read people mentioning that TaeJa is injured. What happened?
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 15 2013 00:44 GMT
#1737
On January 15 2013 09:42 WigglingSquid wrote:
I read people mentioning that TaeJa is injured. What happened?


The fate of all top playing Terrans...
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
Tommyth
Profile Joined April 2012
Poland117 Posts
January 15 2013 00:59 GMT
#1738
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


Better players? I'm quite convinced that currently Stephano is at least as strong as the rest of the team, and he's also proven many times he's quite good at fighting Koreans. Still, it's commonly known that he loses zvz's even to players considered much worse than him, so I agree that he shouldn't have been sent first.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
January 15 2013 01:06 GMT
#1739
On January 15 2013 09:59 Tommyth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 08:19 travis wrote:
I am sure other people complained about this, and I have been trying not to, but SERIOUSLY wtf is the captain for EG-TL doing. Why would you send stephano out first, and why aren't you playing the better players more? I mean sure let puma play if you are up 3-1 or 3-0, but this isn't junior high baseball this is a proleague. And was jaedong still not there?

this is seriously like the 5th or 6th match that I've been disappointed with EG-TL decisionmaking on who to send out


Better players? I'm quite convinced that currently Stephano is at least as strong as the rest of the team, and he's also proven many times he's quite good at fighting Koreans. Still, it's commonly known that he loses zvz's even to players considered much worse than him, so I agree that he shouldn't have been sent first.


Someone bad at preparing should never be sent out first... heck, have a rule to send him second if you want an all-kill.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
SwizzY
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1549 Posts
January 15 2013 01:17 GMT
#1740
On January 15 2013 04:35 taLbuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2013 04:17 SwizzY wrote:
JYP 7/13 in his proleague matches and Puma is 0/4. Just some food for thought


and your thought is implying?


That JYP isn't doing nearly as bad as some people think (though definitely not ace material) and Puma is doing shitty so he either is a god during practice or the coach is just bad for sending out Puma when you are only up 3-2. I don't give a shit if the guy has the worst nerves in the league and just needs support, he hasn't won anything in a looooooong time and shouldn't ever be sent out unless EG-TL is in a guaranteed win.

Coach is either not playing with a winning mentality or he's just bad. I think it's the latter
All that glitters is not gold, all that wander are not lost, the old that is strong does not wither, deep roots are not reached by frost.
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