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TheSir
Profile Joined February 2012
1830 Posts
December 21 2012 22:36 GMT
#3261
On December 22 2012 07:35 Glubschauge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:34 blooblooblahblah wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:33 Glubschauge wrote:
mc overextended too much...


He was all in, he had to overextend.


you can transition out if you make enough dmg, which mc did at first...


well no he didn't
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
December 21 2012 22:37 GMT
#3262
MMA at his peak was godly at TvT and TvZ. It was like sex when watching him play, however not TvP tho.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 22:39:36
December 21 2012 22:37 GMT
#3263
On December 22 2012 07:36 Pursuit_ wrote:
This is actually the second time in a row Grubby has won a close series vs MC :D I think Grubby's PvP is the best outside of Korea, and his PvZ is getting better all the time. Only PvT do I see him consistently lose now, he needs to go to Korea for awhile and shore up that vulnerability since Korean T >>>>>>> Foreign T.

Beating MC in close games twice is not proof that he has the best foreign PvP.

Imho, you will never be able to tell who has the best PvP because PvP is so flimsy.

Anyway, he played well.

Nani, HuK, Monchi, fraer, TitaN, Elfi can all be seen as candidates for for best PvP, but you'll never be able to call that correctly.
Zenbrez
Profile Joined June 2012
Canada5973 Posts
December 21 2012 22:37 GMT
#3264
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..

Man, I was always annoyed when Fionn/Wax/whoever else would always rate MVP over MMA despite MMA doing far better for a couple of months (not just a few events). Then FINALLY, after a dozen or more showings.. they finally decided it was time to rank MMA better.
Refer to my post.
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#3265
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..


I don't know about legend, but he's at least cemented his status as one of the greats of WoL. Only MVP is more accomplished as a Terran. Maybe he'll get his form back in HOTS? Maybe, maybe please?
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#3266
On December 22 2012 07:36 Irre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:33 Irre wrote:
MC must be so mad, shaming Korea

MMA has it covered


true- but TvZ vs PvP i think its worse to lose in mirror lol

foreigners have always been competitive in PvP though with players like Naniwa and Huk. Grubby is decent at the matchup too
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Sakkreth
Profile Joined February 2011
Lithuania1096 Posts
December 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#3267
Wow stop acting like it was huge upset or smt, I wouldn't take MC as clear favorite there, yes Grubby is that good, look at his play in recent tournaments, he's on code a level easily.
WhiteRa, NaNiWa, Creator, sOs, Krr, ForGG, MMA, Zest ||
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 21 2012 22:38 GMT
#3268
On December 22 2012 07:37 Zenbrez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..

Man, I was always annoyed when Fionn/Wax/whoever else would always rate MVP over MMA despite MMA doing far better for a couple of months (not just a few events). Then FINALLY, after a dozen or more showings.. they finally decided it was time to rank MMA better.

And he was forever cursed since.
Prog455
Profile Joined April 2012
Denmark970 Posts
December 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#3269
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..


I think he is getting back in shape. Surely he did not impress anyone at HSC, but he still manage to do fairly well compared to just a few months ago..

Also i think at one point Artosis said that people should not worry too much about a slump like MMA has right now, since apparently players like July would slump up to two years during BW.

And more than anything you have to keep in mind that the SlayerS team house may not have provided the best practice environment for MMA during the last months before they disbanded.
polity
Profile Joined March 2012
54 Posts
December 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#3270
On December 22 2012 07:37 tuho12345 wrote:
MMA at his peak was godly at TvT and TvZ. It was like sex when watching him play, however not TvP tho.


oh come on guys
Rollora
Profile Joined February 2012
2450 Posts
December 21 2012 22:39 GMT
#3271
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..

He clearly WAS legend back that day, anyone who said different was simply an ignorant person.
This permanent harassement on 2-4 different locations at once without mistakes, and still winning the big fights, his control of the game.
Maybe he wasn't considered being that good, cause the game wasn't that much figured out and so many players flamed around of terrans being imba, i dunno. But MMA was like was life is today: ahead of the time, life is actually the first zerg i see with proper harassement, and micro.
SinCitta
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany2127 Posts
December 21 2012 22:40 GMT
#3272
On December 22 2012 07:33 Nightwhistle wrote:
I guess Grubby is half Asian!


He has Indonesian roots.
polity
Profile Joined March 2012
54 Posts
December 21 2012 22:40 GMT
#3273
On December 22 2012 07:39 Rollora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..

He clearly WAS legend back that day, anyone who said different was simply an ignorant person.
This permanent harassement on 2-4 different locations at once without mistakes, and still winning the big fights, his control of the game.
Maybe he wasn't considered being that good, cause the game wasn't that much figured out and so many players flamed around of terrans being imba, i dunno. But MMA was like was life is today: ahead of the time, life is actually the first zerg i see with proper harassement, and micro.


how could u be legend for just a short period?
Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
December 21 2012 22:41 GMT
#3274
On December 22 2012 07:39 Prog455 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..


I think he is getting back in shape. Surely he did not impress anyone at HSC, but he still manage to do fairly well compared to just a few months ago..

Also i think at one point Artosis said that people should not worry too much about a slump like MMA has right now, since apparently players like July would slump up to two years during BW.

And more than anything you have to keep in mind that the SlayerS team house may not have provided the best practice environment for MMA during the last months before they disbanded.


That is true. Fortunately for MMA, his issue doesn't seem to be age (poor Nestea) or injury (poor MVP). It just seems like he is rusty. Very very rusty
Team Slayers, Axiom-Acer and Vile forever
FeyFey
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany10114 Posts
December 21 2012 22:41 GMT
#3275
Wish they would slow down the macro part of the game a little, so you can micro more. Thats what I like at PvP, you have so much time to micro around, because you can't go so insane with your macro at the start.
Eurekastreet
Profile Joined November 2010
1308 Posts
December 21 2012 22:41 GMT
#3276
On December 22 2012 07:23 Rob-Zero wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:21 Eurekastreet wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:19 Rob-Zero wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:17 TBO wrote:
On December 22 2012 06:38 ChaosArcher wrote:
On December 22 2012 06:35 ZwuckeL wrote:
TLO stream cheating? :S

http://i.imgur.com/hosCr.png


Just logged in on another computer for sure.
You can't stream cheat at a lan tournament, it's way to obvious


just to clear up things its my elder brother logged in with his Computer in Berlin where Dario stays at currently ^^


Good to have this clear. But i think no one really thought TLO was streamcheating on an offline event.


Yeah, whereas if this was online, there'd be no doubt ;d Excellent wording.


Ah c´mon, you know what i meant


Yes, I did ;d Just wanted to take the piss. Obviously there's always some peeps to take everything at point blank, guess that adds to the fun too ;d
"2 cannons, it's not one cannons" - White-Ra
decado90
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States480 Posts
December 21 2012 22:41 GMT
#3277
On December 22 2012 07:38 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:36 Irre wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:35 Shellshock1122 wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:33 Irre wrote:
MC must be so mad, shaming Korea

MMA has it covered


true- but TvZ vs PvP i think its worse to lose in mirror lol

foreigners have always been competitive in PvP though with players like Naniwa and Huk. Grubby is decent at the matchup too



Playhem basically posted statistics of thousands of games showing PvP is the worst matchup in the game. Pro players only beat non pro players 75% of the time, compared to 90% for TvT.
"Be formless like water"- Bruce Lee
Popkiller
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
3415 Posts
December 21 2012 22:42 GMT
#3278
On December 22 2012 07:38 Bagration wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote:
MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back


100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far.



Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends..


I don't know about legend, but he's at least cemented his status as one of the greats of WoL. Only MVP is more accomplished as a Terran. Maybe he'll get his form back in HOTS? Maybe, maybe please?


depends. MMA is playing so subpar recently the only explanation is that he didn't practice for a very long time and his mindset is off. Like so many Terrans, he now plays with a losing mindset versus Zerg.

Even if he is still interested in SC2 (I know he says he is motivated but of course he will say that), it'll be a long haul. If he's over SC2, there's no hope.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 21 2012 22:42 GMT
#3279
On December 22 2012 07:36 Shellshock1122 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 07:36 sitromit wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:34 Bagration wrote:
On December 22 2012 07:32 sitromit wrote:
MC to Code B soon, IMO.


Been there, done that


He was lucky then, that GOM was giving seeds to MLG top 2. He may not be so lucky this time, especially since he can't even win foreign tournaments now.

If NesTea is able to win a Code A qualifier i think there is still hope for MC if he falls to Code B


Maybe, it's hard to say. A few months ago I would have thought differently, but I think Nestea is stronger than MC right now.
ssxsilver
Profile Joined June 2007
United States4409 Posts
December 21 2012 22:42 GMT
#3280
Gotta say, Take is really doing an amazing job of plugging the sponsors. It's always during downtime too (not in the middle of games where 1/2 the audience won't bother to pay attention to).
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