On December 22 2012 07:35 Glubschauge wrote:
you can transition out if you make enough dmg, which mc did at first...
you can transition out if you make enough dmg, which mc did at first...
well no he didn't
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TheSir
1830 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:35 Glubschauge wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:34 blooblooblahblah wrote: On December 22 2012 07:33 Glubschauge wrote: mc overextended too much... He was all in, he had to overextend. you can transition out if you make enough dmg, which mc did at first... well no he didn't | ||
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tuho12345
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StarVe
Germany13591 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:36 Pursuit_ wrote: This is actually the second time in a row Grubby has won a close series vs MC :D I think Grubby's PvP is the best outside of Korea, and his PvZ is getting better all the time. Only PvT do I see him consistently lose now, he needs to go to Korea for awhile and shore up that vulnerability since Korean T >>>>>>> Foreign T. Beating MC in close games twice is not proof that he has the best foreign PvP. Imho, you will never be able to tell who has the best PvP because PvP is so flimsy. Anyway, he played well. Nani, HuK, Monchi, fraer, TitaN, Elfi can all be seen as candidates for for best PvP, but you'll never be able to call that correctly. | ||
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Zenbrez
Canada5973 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. Man, I was always annoyed when Fionn/Wax/whoever else would always rate MVP over MMA despite MMA doing far better for a couple of months (not just a few events). Then FINALLY, after a dozen or more showings.. they finally decided it was time to rank MMA better. | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. I don't know about legend, but he's at least cemented his status as one of the greats of WoL. Only MVP is more accomplished as a Terran. Maybe he'll get his form back in HOTS? Maybe, maybe please? | ||
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Shellshock
United States97276 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:36 Irre wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:35 Shellshock1122 wrote: On December 22 2012 07:33 Irre wrote: MC must be so mad, shaming Korea MMA has it covered true- but TvZ vs PvP i think its worse to lose in mirror lol foreigners have always been competitive in PvP though with players like Naniwa and Huk. Grubby is decent at the matchup too | ||
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Sakkreth
Lithuania1096 Posts
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:37 Zenbrez wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. Man, I was always annoyed when Fionn/Wax/whoever else would always rate MVP over MMA despite MMA doing far better for a couple of months (not just a few events). Then FINALLY, after a dozen or more showings.. they finally decided it was time to rank MMA better. And he was forever cursed since. | ||
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Prog455
Denmark970 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. I think he is getting back in shape. Surely he did not impress anyone at HSC, but he still manage to do fairly well compared to just a few months ago.. Also i think at one point Artosis said that people should not worry too much about a slump like MMA has right now, since apparently players like July would slump up to two years during BW. And more than anything you have to keep in mind that the SlayerS team house may not have provided the best practice environment for MMA during the last months before they disbanded. | ||
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polity
54 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:37 tuho12345 wrote: MMA at his peak was godly at TvT and TvZ. It was like sex when watching him play, however not TvP tho. oh come on guys | ||
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Rollora
2450 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. He clearly WAS legend back that day, anyone who said different was simply an ignorant person. This permanent harassement on 2-4 different locations at once without mistakes, and still winning the big fights, his control of the game. Maybe he wasn't considered being that good, cause the game wasn't that much figured out and so many players flamed around of terrans being imba, i dunno. But MMA was like was life is today: ahead of the time, life is actually the first zerg i see with proper harassement, and micro. | ||
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SinCitta
Germany2127 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:33 Nightwhistle wrote: I guess Grubby is half Asian! He has Indonesian roots. | ||
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polity
54 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:39 Rollora wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. He clearly WAS legend back that day, anyone who said different was simply an ignorant person. This permanent harassement on 2-4 different locations at once without mistakes, and still winning the big fights, his control of the game. Maybe he wasn't considered being that good, cause the game wasn't that much figured out and so many players flamed around of terrans being imba, i dunno. But MMA was like was life is today: ahead of the time, life is actually the first zerg i see with proper harassement, and micro. how could u be legend for just a short period? | ||
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Bagration
United States18282 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:39 Prog455 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. I think he is getting back in shape. Surely he did not impress anyone at HSC, but he still manage to do fairly well compared to just a few months ago.. Also i think at one point Artosis said that people should not worry too much about a slump like MMA has right now, since apparently players like July would slump up to two years during BW. And more than anything you have to keep in mind that the SlayerS team house may not have provided the best practice environment for MMA during the last months before they disbanded. That is true. Fortunately for MMA, his issue doesn't seem to be age (poor Nestea) or injury (poor MVP). It just seems like he is rusty. Very very rusty | ||
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FeyFey
Germany10114 Posts
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Eurekastreet
1308 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:23 Rob-Zero wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:21 Eurekastreet wrote: On December 22 2012 07:19 Rob-Zero wrote: On December 22 2012 07:17 TBO wrote: On December 22 2012 06:38 ChaosArcher wrote: Just logged in on another computer for sure. You can't stream cheat at a lan tournament, it's way to obvious just to clear up things its my elder brother logged in with his Computer in Berlin where Dario stays at currently ^^ Good to have this clear. But i think no one really thought TLO was streamcheating on an offline event. Yeah, whereas if this was online, there'd be no doubt ;d Excellent wording. Ah c´mon, you know what i meant ![]() Yes, I did ;d Just wanted to take the piss. Obviously there's always some peeps to take everything at point blank, guess that adds to the fun too ;d | ||
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decado90
United States480 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:38 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:36 Irre wrote: On December 22 2012 07:35 Shellshock1122 wrote: On December 22 2012 07:33 Irre wrote: MC must be so mad, shaming Korea MMA has it covered true- but TvZ vs PvP i think its worse to lose in mirror lol foreigners have always been competitive in PvP though with players like Naniwa and Huk. Grubby is decent at the matchup too Playhem basically posted statistics of thousands of games showing PvP is the worst matchup in the game. Pro players only beat non pro players 75% of the time, compared to 90% for TvT. | ||
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Popkiller
3415 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:38 Bagration wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:34 rEalGuapo wrote: On December 22 2012 07:22 SarcasmMonster wrote: On December 22 2012 07:18 Coal wrote: MMA 0-2 vs SexLorD and now 0-2 vs Stephano? I want the old semi-god MMA back ![]() 100% agreed. MMA during his short prime was the greatest SC2 player we've seen so far. Did not realize anybody other than me thought so. I always get bashed by friends when I say MMA has the potential to be one of the legends.. I don't know about legend, but he's at least cemented his status as one of the greats of WoL. Only MVP is more accomplished as a Terran. Maybe he'll get his form back in HOTS? Maybe, maybe please? depends. MMA is playing so subpar recently the only explanation is that he didn't practice for a very long time and his mindset is off. Like so many Terrans, he now plays with a losing mindset versus Zerg. Even if he is still interested in SC2 (I know he says he is motivated but of course he will say that), it'll be a long haul. If he's over SC2, there's no hope. | ||
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sitromit
7051 Posts
On December 22 2012 07:36 Shellshock1122 wrote: Show nested quote + On December 22 2012 07:36 sitromit wrote: On December 22 2012 07:34 Bagration wrote: On December 22 2012 07:32 sitromit wrote: MC to Code B soon, IMO. Been there, done that He was lucky then, that GOM was giving seeds to MLG top 2. He may not be so lucky this time, especially since he can't even win foreign tournaments now. If NesTea is able to win a Code A qualifier i think there is still hope for MC if he falls to Code B Maybe, it's hard to say. A few months ago I would have thought differently, but I think Nestea is stronger than MC right now. | ||
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ssxsilver
United States4409 Posts
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