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TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 20 2012 15:41 GMT
#1161
On December 20 2012 21:06 MorroW wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 21:03 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On December 20 2012 21:01 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 21:00 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:54 opterown wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:53 ToKoreaWithLove wrote:
So happy with this^^ Sentry immortal might be boring but at least its not a zvz final and the joy of seeing Sniper knocked out really makes anything exciting. Surprised Sniper was so unprepared to deal with this, with Parting being so famous for it.

sniper was just about as prepared as you could be haha


Roach/ling against the soul train is pretty archaic at this point. I mean Parting took a strat and perfected it over time, while zergs have during the same time countered it with .. roach/ling. At least drop your roach army on top of his, or something.

your a genius why havent any progamer zerg thought of that?

wow!~


I'm not a progamer. But I'm still smart enough to realise when something does not work I'll do something else.

Maybe if you did as well you would actually win a game now and then.

thats incredible your so smart, myself along with progamer zergs have IQ of mosquitoes and fly into the window over and over but instead are using roaches and lings running into forcefields


I still <3 you Morrow. Can't wait to see what awesomeness you'll have in HoTS. Don't feed the trolls though.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 20 2012 15:42 GMT
#1162
On December 20 2012 20:55 Chocobo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 20:46 Veldril wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:44 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:41 Tsubbi wrote:
immortal sentry is only good because of the +1 range buff they got vs 1/1/1, also while everyone deep in their heart knows the build is a tad bit too strong sniper didnt play well today

sniper played actually almost a perfect text book game vs parting on abyssal city.
he had near perfect execution to "how your supposed to stop immortal sentry all-in". this is how all top koreans play against this when going 3hatch before gas and it works wonders against all tosses except parting


Well, if there's only one player who can make that build works no matter what, couldn't we say he is very skilled with this build?

No one is doubting Parting's skill. He is a worthy winner of the B.net world championship, he won WCG right afterwards and will probably win the GSL Blizzard Cup. He's definitely a contender for "best in the world" right now.

But the best player in the world shouldn't be able to tell top level opponents exactly what he will do and have them be unable to counter it. Either the build is OP or zergs are making the wrong choices to deal with it.

It's too soon to call it OP since so few zergs are trying counterattacks or drops. They all just want to take it on with roach/ling, which simply doesn't work.



Perhaps they aren't that great?! Perhaps Blizzard cup is just a patch zerg fest?!

How can you be so judgemental? It's not like everyone was capable of beating Flash in BW even if they knew he was going to 14 CC every game, every matchup.
maru G5L pls
Going4Gold
Profile Joined August 2012
United Kingdom67 Posts
December 20 2012 15:43 GMT
#1163
SC2 tournaments are meaningless at the moment and will remains so until the game is balanced. Are we really supposed to believe that terran players are rubbish at this game and parting is the only good Protoss. LOL.

User was temp banned for this post.
TheDougler
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada8306 Posts
December 20 2012 15:45 GMT
#1164
On December 20 2012 21:37 Hider wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:50 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:46 Veldril wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:44 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:41 Tsubbi wrote:
immortal sentry is only good because of the +1 range buff they got vs 1/1/1, also while everyone deep in their heart knows the build is a tad bit too strong sniper didnt play well today

sniper played actually almost a perfect text book game vs parting on abyssal city.
he had near perfect execution to "how your supposed to stop immortal sentry all-in". this is how all top koreans play against this when going 3hatch before gas and it works wonders against all tosses except parting


Well, if there's only one player who can make that build works no matter what, couldn't we say he is very skilled with this build?


As long as there is only one player who can do a build, they really have no reason to nerf it.

I mean they can't nerf a unit to fix games involving 0.00001% of the playerbase (that player and his opponents only).

thorzain got thors nerfed after one game. morrow got reapers nerfed after one tournament, etc :p


Rewriting history.


Not really. It was pretty early in beta.
To add to the list, the slayers BFH of Anaheim and subsequent nerf is still my personal favourite.
I root for Euro Zergs, NA Protoss* and Korean Terrans. (Any North American who has beat a Korean Pro as Protoss counts as NA Toss)
neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
December 20 2012 15:51 GMT
#1165
On December 21 2012 00:43 Going4Gold wrote:
SC2 tournaments are meaningless at the moment and will remains so until the game is balanced. Are we really supposed to believe that terran players are rubbish at this game and parting is the only good Protoss. LOL.


Yep, the only way for the very lousy player god himself to beat a foreigner is + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Why would you think anything is + Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
?

You are such a silly boy or girl! Terran is OP.


And btw, Morrow, you are good. Don't listen to the haters.
maru G5L pls
ROOTheognis
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States4482 Posts
December 20 2012 15:52 GMT
#1166
On December 21 2012 00:45 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 21:37 Hider wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:50 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:46 Veldril wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:44 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:41 Tsubbi wrote:
immortal sentry is only good because of the +1 range buff they got vs 1/1/1, also while everyone deep in their heart knows the build is a tad bit too strong sniper didnt play well today

sniper played actually almost a perfect text book game vs parting on abyssal city.
he had near perfect execution to "how your supposed to stop immortal sentry all-in". this is how all top koreans play against this when going 3hatch before gas and it works wonders against all tosses except parting


Well, if there's only one player who can make that build works no matter what, couldn't we say he is very skilled with this build?


As long as there is only one player who can do a build, they really have no reason to nerf it.

I mean they can't nerf a unit to fix games involving 0.00001% of the playerbase (that player and his opponents only).

thorzain got thors nerfed after one game. morrow got reapers nerfed after one tournament, etc :p


Rewriting history.


Not really. It was pretty early in beta.
To add to the list, the slayers BFH of Anaheim and subsequent nerf is still my personal favourite.


I loved the MorroW reaper nerf only because apparently it was DIMAGA that told him about this "super secret imba build". So in actuality it was Dima's plan all along just to get this strat nerfed ;D
If you avoid your weakness, it will remain your weakness. www.twitter.com/#!/rootheognis Follow me!
Alryk
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States2718 Posts
December 20 2012 15:59 GMT
#1167
On December 19 2012 21:59 Asha` wrote:
Sniper should destroy Parting ez pz


Merry Christmas everybody :D

Not that you were making fun of parting or anything. I just love quoting these
Team Liquid, IM, ViOlet!
Random_Guy09
Profile Joined April 2012
Canada1010 Posts
December 20 2012 16:11 GMT
#1168
On December 20 2012 21:15 OhThatDang wrote:
Is muta even viable against the all in?


People have debated muta's but the strat got axed because by the time your few mutas pop out he's already at your front door raping your base and he'll just start warping in stalkers to reinforce and make mutas useless.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 16:34:56
December 20 2012 16:34 GMT
#1169
How is the wonwonwon different from 1/1/1 except that PartinG has been able to package and market it better?
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 16:42:51
December 20 2012 16:39 GMT
#1170
On December 21 2012 00:33 QuanticTheognis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 21:37 Hider wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:50 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:46 Veldril wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:44 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:41 Tsubbi wrote:
immortal sentry is only good because of the +1 range buff they got vs 1/1/1, also while everyone deep in their heart knows the build is a tad bit too strong sniper didnt play well today

sniper played actually almost a perfect text book game vs parting on abyssal city.
he had near perfect execution to "how your supposed to stop immortal sentry all-in". this is how all top koreans play against this when going 3hatch before gas and it works wonders against all tosses except parting


Well, if there's only one player who can make that build works no matter what, couldn't we say he is very skilled with this build?


As long as there is only one player who can do a build, they really have no reason to nerf it.

I mean they can't nerf a unit to fix games involving 0.00001% of the playerbase (that player and his opponents only).

thorzain got thors nerfed after one game. morrow got reapers nerfed after one tournament, etc :p


Rewriting history.




I actually like it when it's to the point where one player always wins with a specific strategy but others are unable to duplicate its success. I don't really think it comes down to balance but rather just how sharp and crisp his executions are. It would be a whole other story if every protoss in Code S was able to win like this with this one particular build.


lol, is this comment really from a pro gamer? You feel that there should be a build that when executed perfectly, it should beat everything else regardless of what the opponent is doing? Then why don't we just have a player play against a bot? No doubt, PartinG is on another level when executing this build. But this is ridiculous. It is like if PuMa figured out the perfect 1/1/1, it shouldn't mean he can do it every game and get a win against Protoss.

Should a terran that has perfected the 11/11 be able to just win vs zerg?
mijellin
Profile Joined November 2008
China740 Posts
December 20 2012 16:51 GMT
#1171
On December 21 2012 01:39 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 00:33 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On December 20 2012 21:37 Hider wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:50 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:46 Veldril wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:44 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:41 Tsubbi wrote:
immortal sentry is only good because of the +1 range buff they got vs 1/1/1, also while everyone deep in their heart knows the build is a tad bit too strong sniper didnt play well today

sniper played actually almost a perfect text book game vs parting on abyssal city.
he had near perfect execution to "how your supposed to stop immortal sentry all-in". this is how all top koreans play against this when going 3hatch before gas and it works wonders against all tosses except parting


Well, if there's only one player who can make that build works no matter what, couldn't we say he is very skilled with this build?


As long as there is only one player who can do a build, they really have no reason to nerf it.

I mean they can't nerf a unit to fix games involving 0.00001% of the playerbase (that player and his opponents only).

thorzain got thors nerfed after one game. morrow got reapers nerfed after one tournament, etc :p


Rewriting history.




I actually like it when it's to the point where one player always wins with a specific strategy but others are unable to duplicate its success. I don't really think it comes down to balance but rather just how sharp and crisp his executions are. It would be a whole other story if every protoss in Code S was able to win like this with this one particular build.


lol, is this comment really from a pro gamer? You feel that there should be a build that when executed perfectly, it should beat everything else regardless of what the opponent is doing? Then why don't we just have a player play against a bot? No doubt, PartinG is on another level when executing this build. But this is ridiculous. It is like if PuMa figured out the perfect 1/1/1, it shouldn't mean he can do it every game and get a win against Protoss.

Should a terran that has perfected the 11/11 be able to just win vs zerg?


This week on putting words into other people's mouths
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 20 2012 16:53 GMT
#1172
On December 21 2012 00:45 TheDougler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2012 21:37 Hider wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:50 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:46 Veldril wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:44 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:41 Tsubbi wrote:
immortal sentry is only good because of the +1 range buff they got vs 1/1/1, also while everyone deep in their heart knows the build is a tad bit too strong sniper didnt play well today

sniper played actually almost a perfect text book game vs parting on abyssal city.
he had near perfect execution to "how your supposed to stop immortal sentry all-in". this is how all top koreans play against this when going 3hatch before gas and it works wonders against all tosses except parting


Well, if there's only one player who can make that build works no matter what, couldn't we say he is very skilled with this build?


As long as there is only one player who can do a build, they really have no reason to nerf it.

I mean they can't nerf a unit to fix games involving 0.00001% of the playerbase (that player and his opponents only).

thorzain got thors nerfed after one game. morrow got reapers nerfed after one tournament, etc :p


Rewriting history.


Not really. It was pretty early in beta.
To add to the list, the slayers BFH of Anaheim and subsequent nerf is still my personal favourite.


They nerfed ghost after Mvp used it. They stopped Raven buffs after Mvp used it. Also, PartinG is not the ONLY protoss winning with immortal all-in. He is just the most successful. Did every terran win with 11/11? Yet, they changed barracks build time.

Hell, they nerfed 1-1-1 after Mvp lost to Tails with it.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 16:56:29
December 20 2012 16:54 GMT
#1173
On December 21 2012 01:51 mijellin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 01:39 vthree wrote:
On December 21 2012 00:33 QuanticTheognis wrote:
On December 20 2012 21:37 Hider wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:52 opterown wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:50 dcemuser wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:46 Veldril wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:44 MorroW wrote:
On December 20 2012 20:41 Tsubbi wrote:
immortal sentry is only good because of the +1 range buff they got vs 1/1/1, also while everyone deep in their heart knows the build is a tad bit too strong sniper didnt play well today

sniper played actually almost a perfect text book game vs parting on abyssal city.
he had near perfect execution to "how your supposed to stop immortal sentry all-in". this is how all top koreans play against this when going 3hatch before gas and it works wonders against all tosses except parting


Well, if there's only one player who can make that build works no matter what, couldn't we say he is very skilled with this build?


As long as there is only one player who can do a build, they really have no reason to nerf it.

I mean they can't nerf a unit to fix games involving 0.00001% of the playerbase (that player and his opponents only).

thorzain got thors nerfed after one game. morrow got reapers nerfed after one tournament, etc :p


Rewriting history.




I actually like it when it's to the point where one player always wins with a specific strategy but others are unable to duplicate its success. I don't really think it comes down to balance but rather just how sharp and crisp his executions are. It would be a whole other story if every protoss in Code S was able to win like this with this one particular build.


lol, is this comment really from a pro gamer? You feel that there should be a build that when executed perfectly, it should beat everything else regardless of what the opponent is doing? Then why don't we just have a player play against a bot? No doubt, PartinG is on another level when executing this build. But this is ridiculous. It is like if PuMa figured out the perfect 1/1/1, it shouldn't mean he can do it every game and get a win against Protoss.

Should a terran that has perfected the 11/11 be able to just win vs zerg?


This week on putting words into other people's mouths


How so? That is exactly what he said. Let's say PuMa had 100% win rate with his 'perfect' 1/1/1. Other terrans cannot do it as well as he does it and only has 60% win rate. Does that mean that the build shouldn't be looked at?

The ironic thing is. The buff to immortals that 'countered' the 1/1/1 has indirectly led to this wonwonwon build.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 20 2012 17:01 GMT
#1174
On December 20 2012 21:18 sjperera wrote:
From everything I'm hearing... firstly, Zergs should stop complaining... apart from Parting this build isn't full proof... even Parting got stomped by Hyun and a few other Zerg's in the last few months...

And to compare this to the Terran 1-1-1 is a mistake... that was a build that could kill you if not the first time, the 2nd or the 3rd... when the Immortal-Sentry all-in fails, you are pretty much dead! Plus, compare tank placement, banshee pokes and marine A-moving to Warp prism micro and FFing?! Also, this build can't be done by any scrub Protoss against a top-tier Zerg... hey! even Ryung could use the 1-1-1, the TvT Ryung of old...


Seed was able to extend the immortal all-in until the 14-15 minute mark...
snorlax1
Profile Joined April 2011
Singapore233 Posts
December 20 2012 17:09 GMT
#1175
My wish came true, (P)PartinG DID 3 immortal all-ins in a row
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
December 20 2012 17:29 GMT
#1176
I dont care if PartinG did 30 Immortal timing rush in a row. As far as Im concerned Zerg shouldnt complain. They get unfair advantages against anyone else than PartinG.
Sabu113
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States11076 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-20 17:42:32
December 20 2012 17:33 GMT
#1177
On December 21 2012 01:34 vthree wrote:
How is the wonwonwon different from 1/1/1 except that PartinG has been able to package and market it better?


You're hurting me. Really. You are hurting all of us.

edit: Is it me or is it a little ridiculous how much money PartinG is gonna roll in soon after a fairly mediocre 2012.
Biomine is a drunken chick who is on industrial strength amphetamines and would just grab your dick and jerk it as hard and violently as she could while screaming 'OMG FUCK ME', because she saw it in a Sasha Grey video ...-Wombat_Ni
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
December 20 2012 17:35 GMT
#1178
THE SOUL TRAIN!!!!


GO PARTING! Win yet another major tournament within a month :p
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
LockeTazeline
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
2390 Posts
December 20 2012 17:37 GMT
#1179
Heck yeah Parting! Soul Train on full steam.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 20 2012 17:42 GMT
#1180
Hell yeah PartinG, fun prevails!

Hmm, StarTale gets first and second place. Not bad at all.
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