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Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
December 18 2012 07:23 GMT
#541
i want to pay attention to violets queens, because he seems to spread more creep in early game zvp than other zergs. I'm curious.
MCXD
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Australia2738 Posts
December 18 2012 07:24 GMT
#542
If there is lots of maps for which it is too easy for zerg to take a 3rd and too hard for protoss (and there is), doesn't that most likely mean it's a fault of the game design and not the map design? That it's simply too hard for protoss to take a 3rd in general, regardless of the map?
BackSideAttack
Profile Joined December 2010
1103 Posts
December 18 2012 07:25 GMT
#543
On December 18 2012 16:21 vthree wrote:
Anyone else feel that the inject and creep spread mechanics are really allowing the top zergs to differentiate themselves from the mid tier zergs? But Terran and Protoss differentiation isn't as big in this area. Seems like we still see mid tier zergs lose to mid tier T and P. But once T and P hit the top tier Zs, they just seem to hit a wall.


I feel like the race was made to where if you have perfect injects, you can hold anything the toss throws at you as long as you have appropriate scouting. The game was balanced around people making mistakes and not being perfect, but recently zerg players have become really really good mechanically. Couple this with how late game pvz is really hard on the protoss in terms of battle micro and positioning needed that protoss are forced to do timings.
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 18 2012 07:25 GMT
#544
On December 18 2012 16:24 MCXD wrote:
If there is lots of maps for which it is too easy for zerg to take a 3rd and too hard for protoss (and there is), doesn't that most likely mean it's a fault of the game design and not the map design? That it's simply too hard for protoss to take a 3rd in general, regardless of the map?


I'd say yes

It would be nice if gateway units didn't have to rely on a gimmick like forcefield to be good.

lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 18 2012 07:26 GMT
#545
On December 18 2012 16:21 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 16:19 Corsica wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:18 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:16 Corsica wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:15 Boiler Bandsman wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:13 Corrosive wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:11 nomyx wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:03 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
Current map pool all get the easy to take 3rd base, even 4th is very easy to take, why not make a map with basically only 2 base and 1 in the center?

Zerg power will be weaker.


this is why I love the KESPA maps. They promote different styles and don't cater to the "free 3 base or else zerg will cry imba."

reminds me of BW, kespa had micro maps (smaller, less bases, short rush distance) that encouraged smaller scale engagements. Also had macro maps which are pretty much the SC2 map pool right now. And of course "gimmick" maps like Araknoid

arkanoid is a "free 3 base or else zerg will cry imba" map


Yeah, but I'd say that's not the dominant feature there like Blizz/GSL maps....


so how do you fight protoss while having inferior economy?


What? I said nothing about balance. Lumping Arkanoid in with Daybreak et al is just stupid, though.


maps is part of balance...........


No shit. I get that Arkanoid might be imba. It works for Proleague though because you can account for that. But regardless, that wasn't my point. It's highly highly unique, and calling it a "free 3 base", while technically true, is so misleading as to be useless.


And the free three bases for Zerg is countered by a.) highground ledge for siege tanks and ranged units (super annoying), b.) unscoutable opponent's main base and c.) short walk distance.
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usethis2
Profile Joined December 2010
2164 Posts
December 18 2012 07:27 GMT
#546
Why the fuck does seed have void ray in the same hotkey with gateway units
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 18 2012 07:28 GMT
#547
On December 18 2012 16:27 usethis2 wrote:
Why the fuck does seed have void ray in the same hotkey with gateway units

1 a is a lot easier then 1 a 2 a
UnKooL
Profile Joined August 2010
Korea (South)1667 Posts
December 18 2012 07:28 GMT
#548
So many stargate openings in pvz, kind of interesting.
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Kirbtacular
Profile Joined July 2011
United States64 Posts
December 18 2012 07:29 GMT
#549
poor infestor control by violet
Tachion
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada8573 Posts
December 18 2012 07:29 GMT
#550
very cool aggression from violet
i was driving down the road this november eve and spotted a hitchhiker walking down the street. i pulled over and saw that it was only a tree. i uprooted it and put it in my trunk. do trees like marshmallow peeps? cause that's all i have and will have.
therabit
Profile Joined August 2011
795 Posts
December 18 2012 07:29 GMT
#551
violet really try to throw this
Waxangel
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
United States33706 Posts
December 18 2012 07:29 GMT
#552
yuck, sloppy play from our pal violet here ;/
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Chill Penguin
Profile Joined March 2012
Australia756 Posts
December 18 2012 07:29 GMT
#553
Dreadful infestor control.
brotlov
Profile Joined November 2008
Australia128 Posts
December 18 2012 07:30 GMT
#554
If violet didn't lose all of those infestor's, he'd be in a much better position. I feel like if Seed just doesn't stuff up, he should win this from here.
Oboeman
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3980 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 07:31:13
December 18 2012 07:30 GMT
#555
Conundum of antiga, the zerg wants to end it on 3 base because there is no good 4th base.
That' why he was being so aggressive. losing those infestors was not good.
FrostedMiniWheats
Profile Joined August 2010
United States30730 Posts
December 18 2012 07:31 GMT
#556
Seeduuu!

they're all honey!
NesTea | Mvp | MC | Leenock | Losira | Gumiho | DRG | Taeja | Jinro | Stephano | Thorzain | Sen | Idra |Polt | Bomber | Symbol | Squirtle | Fantasy | Jaedong | Maru | sOs | Seed | ByuN | ByuL | Neeb| Scarlett | Rogue | IM forever
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 18 2012 07:31 GMT
#557
Deathball!
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 18 2012 07:31 GMT
#558
that one VR sure is annoying
dark_d
Profile Joined November 2011
Indonesia6 Posts
December 18 2012 07:31 GMT
#559
hero void ray! XD
...
Al Bundy
Profile Joined April 2010
7257 Posts
December 18 2012 07:31 GMT
#560
Come on SEED !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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