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Dr.Hydralisk
Profile Joined December 2012
United States50 Posts
December 18 2012 07:44 GMT
#281
On December 18 2012 16:22 mrtomjones wrote:
why is there a timer for a random pro league day? I thought that was only for big tournaments


Proleague is the biggest tournament out there.
mrtomjones
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada4020 Posts
December 18 2012 07:56 GMT
#282
On December 18 2012 16:44 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 16:22 mrtomjones wrote:
why is there a timer for a random pro league day? I thought that was only for big tournaments


Proleague is the biggest tournament out there.

I'll assume that was sarcasm
AlternativeEgo
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden17309 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 08:34:05
December 18 2012 08:33 GMT
#283
It's a TL(and EG) streamed event.
Mark Munoz looks like Gretorp
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 10:08:08
December 18 2012 10:06 GMT
#284
[QUOTE]On December 18 2012 02:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 18 2012 00:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
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On December 17 2012 21:39 Dodgin wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
So SKT is now first ? I failed to find the big scoreboard. KT was first on first week end but now...


CJ is still first for now, they play tomorrow so if they lose SKT will take 1st if they win they will keep it.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_1 standings at the top


Oh thank you... Guess i didn't open the good tab because i could have thought about it being in liquidpedia

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On December 17 2012 22:46 Zeon0 wrote:
gold level Terran theorycrafts about Zerg strategies on a map he never played on and saw like two TvZs? good stuff!


Really ? So Gold players can't have opinions ? He said he supposed a thing and people bashing him... Not really nice.

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On December 18 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:10 Salteador Neo wrote:
Yeah that map would be horrible in an individual league. But here where teams can chose who to send, having fun "new" maps like this is awesome and makes for interesting strats


I'm intrigued. Please enlighten us on what kind of "interesting strats" you have in mind!


Well it's not SC2 but there were a lot of great games in BW on it. Savior did his part, UpMagic (dat Supply depot). Or if i remember correctly (i'm not really sure). There was a PvP with cool Dark Archon. Who was it ? I can't recall (no that was not Jaehoon)

But yes it is NOT a balanced map. None of the KESPA BW maps were (can't think of one). Also there was cool games on Blood Bath :p (MBC Game attack i think). I really think that stupid maps like that serves to entertain the public. And when some zerg will pull of his hat a crazy strat to do it will be so cool

I remember that the imbalance on some maps made cool strats. For exemple the barracks behind the mineral line from Boxer against... euh... no don't remember. A protoss. Boxer was really good at studying map. When all maps are balanced you always see the same thing over and over again. (i'm exagerating of course)



[QUOTE]
Wtf? Okay, it doesn't have to be perfectly balanced, but at least most BW maps that stayed popular had the decency to have close to 50% win ratios for each matchup.

Not saying certain SC2 maps don't, but I think it's fair to say that crap maps are crap maps, and it's stupid to let a map like this fly by saying "ooh, but...interesting strats!" That's pretty stupid when considering the best strats are pulled off on maps that are fairly balanced.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah i know what you mean. Sorry i'm not really good at expressing myself in english. I'll try another round

What i meant that a lot of Kespa BW maps were not balanced for everyrace. You had some stuff like : "Siege tank heaven" but in another expo you had the "zerglings runbys impossible to defend etc...". It was not all simetrical and produced great games.

Even with those unbalanced they were like you said more solid ratios. But when a map couldn't be that good it will last only one season.

Am i clearer ? Or is it more blurry than my first post ?

EDIT : damnit can't format my post
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 16:22:15
December 18 2012 16:20 GMT
#285
On December 18 2012 05:41 ChApFoU wrote:
Arkanoïd still has produced funnier games from a viewer's perspective than most of blizzard's maps. If it was so obviously imbalanced proteams wouldn't send a zerg on it.

I've never enjoyed watching proSC2 that much since the new proleague and most of it is due to the new maps. Besides, these are the first sc2 maps ever that Kespa makes so let's give them a chance.


Which I think is more sad, then good.

On December 18 2012 19:06 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 02:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On December 18 2012 00:25 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:39 Dodgin wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:37 FFW_Rude wrote:
So SKT is now first ? I failed to find the big scoreboard. KT was first on first week end but now...


CJ is still first for now, they play tomorrow so if they lose SKT will take 1st if they win they will keep it.

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft2/2012-2013_Proleague/Round_1 standings at the top


Oh thank you... Guess i didn't open the good tab because i could have thought about it being in liquidpedia

Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 22:46 Zeon0 wrote:
gold level Terran theorycrafts about Zerg strategies on a map he never played on and saw like two TvZs? good stuff!


Really ? So Gold players can't have opinions ? He said he supposed a thing and people bashing him... Not really nice.

Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 00:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On December 18 2012 00:10 Salteador Neo wrote:
Yeah that map would be horrible in an individual league. But here where teams can chose who to send, having fun "new" maps like this is awesome and makes for interesting strats


I'm intrigued. Please enlighten us on what kind of "interesting strats" you have in mind!


Well it's not SC2 but there were a lot of great games in BW on it. Savior did his part, UpMagic (dat Supply depot). Or if i remember correctly (i'm not really sure). There was a PvP with cool Dark Archon. Who was it ? I can't recall (no that was not Jaehoon)

But yes it is NOT a balanced map. None of the KESPA BW maps were (can't think of one). Also there was cool games on Blood Bath :p (MBC Game attack i think). I really think that stupid maps like that serves to entertain the public. And when some zerg will pull of his hat a crazy strat to do it will be so cool

I remember that the imbalance on some maps made cool strats. For exemple the barracks behind the mineral line from Boxer against... euh... no don't remember. A protoss. Boxer was really good at studying map. When all maps are balanced you always see the same thing over and over again. (i'm exagerating of course)



Wtf? Okay, it doesn't have to be perfectly balanced, but at least most BW maps that stayed popular had the decency to have close to 50% win ratios for each matchup.

Not saying certain SC2 maps don't, but I think it's fair to say that crap maps are crap maps, and it's stupid to let a map like this fly by saying "ooh, but...interesting strats!" That's pretty stupid when considering the best strats are pulled off on maps that are fairly balanced.


Yeah i know what you mean. Sorry i'm not really good at expressing myself in english. I'll try another round

What i meant that a lot of Kespa BW maps were not balanced for everyrace. You had some stuff like : "Siege tank heaven" but in another expo you had the "zerglings runbys impossible to defend etc...". It was not all simetrical and produced great games.

Even with those unbalanced they were like you said more solid ratios. But when a map couldn't be that good it will last only one season.

Am i clearer ? Or is it more blurry than my first post ?

EDIT : damnit can't format my post


Yes, that makes sense.
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Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-18 16:46:55
December 18 2012 16:40 GMT
#286
I like Arkanoid because it's different than all the other maps and produces unique games that would never happen otherwise. Watching the same build orders on the same maps over and over again is exactly why I stopped watching Sc2. I appreciate that KeSPA is trying to liven up the game. Balance is not a factor in my enjoyment of the games played on any map.

Also, it's not as bad as Battle Royal or some other past proleague maps... Paranoid Android also comes to mind.
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18752 Posts
December 18 2012 17:18 GMT
#287
On December 19 2012 01:40 Sinensis wrote:
I like Arkanoid because it's different than all the other maps and produces unique games that would never happen otherwise. Watching the same build orders on the same maps over and over again is exactly why I stopped watching Sc2. I appreciate that KeSPA is trying to liven up the game. Balance is not a factor in my enjoyment of the games played on any map.

Also, it's not as bad as Battle Royal or some other past proleague maps... Paranoid Android also comes to mind.


Battle Royal was so bad that even as a zerg player I hated it. -_-
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
December 18 2012 18:09 GMT
#288
On December 18 2012 16:56 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 16:44 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:22 mrtomjones wrote:
why is there a timer for a random pro league day? I thought that was only for big tournaments


Proleague is the biggest tournament out there.

I'll assume that was sarcasm


don't
DamageControL
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States4222 Posts
December 18 2012 19:00 GMT
#289
On December 18 2012 16:56 mrtomjones wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 18 2012 16:44 Dr.Hydralisk wrote:
On December 18 2012 16:22 mrtomjones wrote:
why is there a timer for a random pro league day? I thought that was only for big tournaments


Proleague is the biggest tournament out there.

I'll assume that was sarcasm

It is the largest SC Team Prizepool that I am aware of. (also biggest prizepool, but it's not fair to compare player vs team tourneys)
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DKR
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom622 Posts
December 18 2012 19:02 GMT
#290
Fantasy hwaiting! SKT1 owning face ^^
"1 base. Cheese man." - MKP. "[MVP] is not stylistic, his style is winning, which is the style you want to have." - Artosis
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