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sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
December 17 2012 13:08 GMT
#241
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.

how so?
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 17 2012 13:19 GMT
#242
On December 17 2012 22:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.

how so?
Siege Tanks...?
#freeshauni
gillon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Sweden1578 Posts
December 17 2012 13:20 GMT
#243
On December 17 2012 22:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.

how so?


It's bullshit because he can't do his standard 3 hatch infestor-sit-on-his-ass bullshit. The usual, y'know.
www.teamproperty.net | "You should hate losing, but you should never fear defeat." - 이윤열
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
December 17 2012 13:24 GMT
#244
On December 17 2012 22:19 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 22:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.

how so?
Siege Tanks...?

they're beatable, but you have to go mutas and fast. (or at least, that would be one way to beat it and is the only one I can think of right now)
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Proseat
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Germany5113 Posts
December 17 2012 13:34 GMT
#245
Another 4:0 score, dang. Guess some people will be very happy in FPL.
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Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 17 2012 13:35 GMT
#246
On December 17 2012 22:24 sc2superfan101 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 22:19 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 22:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.

how so?
Siege Tanks...?

they're beatable, but you have to go mutas and fast. (or at least, that would be one way to beat it and is the only one I can think of right now)
Well there you go...
#freeshauni
mesozoic
Profile Joined November 2011
41 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 13:39:18
December 17 2012 13:38 GMT
#247
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

So you didn't watch Thorzain vs Songduri where lots of tears were shed by Egtl fans when Thorzain lost almost all of his scvs to a zerg counter attack.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
December 17 2012 13:40 GMT
#248
On December 17 2012 22:35 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 22:24 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 22:19 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 22:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.

how so?
Siege Tanks...?

they're beatable, but you have to go mutas and fast. (or at least, that would be one way to beat it and is the only one I can think of right now)
Well there you go...

yeah but I'm a gold level Terran. I don't even play Zerg and I can think of one almost hard-counter to siege play, I think pro Zergs can come up with something. and even if siege tanks force mutas, that won't necessarily be all that bad. I don't know why a Zerg wouldn't go mutas anyway on a map that perfect for it.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Zeon0
Profile Joined September 2010
Austria2995 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 13:47:20
December 17 2012 13:46 GMT
#249
gold level Terran theorycrafts about Zerg strategies on a map he never played on and saw like two TvZs? good stuff!
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JeffGoldblum
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Cook Islands191 Posts
December 17 2012 13:49 GMT
#250
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.


Why are you mad though? No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map so I don't see any problem with having it in the map pool. Unless you want 'Daybreak 24/7 fast respawn 100Mbit'. When OSL comes it around I'd be surprised if it was one of their maps.
I'm Jeff Goldblum
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
December 17 2012 13:51 GMT
#251
Fuck yeah!

Was undecided between KT and SKT for this week FPL, glad I made the right choice!
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 17 2012 13:51 GMT
#252
On December 17 2012 22:46 Zeon0 wrote:
gold level Terran theorycrafts about Zerg strategies on a map he never played on and saw like two TvZs? good stuff!


Doesn't that describe most people on this forum?
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 13:57:01
December 17 2012 13:53 GMT
#253
On December 17 2012 22:46 Zeon0 wrote:
gold level Terran theorycrafts about Zerg strategies on a map he never played on and saw like two TvZs? good stuff!

was I wrong about anything? (and I have played on it, Custom games yo!)

edit: oh and I've seen 3 TvZs. Zerg won 2 of them.
edit 2: (using mutas when they won, ironically)
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 14:04:43
December 17 2012 14:02 GMT
#254
On December 17 2012 22:49 JeffGoldblum wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.


Why are you mad though? No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map so I don't see any problem with having it in the map pool. Unless you want 'Daybreak 24/7 fast respawn 100Mbit'. When OSL comes it around I'd be surprised if it was one of their maps.
Doesn't freaking excuse that it is a piss poor map. Daybreak is a good map but I'm not saying I want all maps to be that way. Variety is FINE but this way is not. "No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map" is the worst fucking excuse I've ever heard. It is so disgustingly ignorant.

Muta play is relatively strong on it but Muta Ling Bling has never countered BioTank builds. It's a balanced matchup which generally is about skill and positioning. And if you look at the map the attacking Terran has a very favoured position. Meanwhile an attacking Zerg does not have such an advantage, as all their ground units vs T are melee and cannot make use of the terrain.
#freeshauni
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
December 17 2012 14:04 GMT
#255
On December 17 2012 23:02 Elem wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 22:49 JeffGoldblum wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:30 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote:
Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map...

the Zerg played really badly, but the map is actually really cool.

of course, JYJ played that as well as the zerg played it badly, so it looked ugly
Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin.


Why are you mad though? No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map so I don't see any problem with having it in the map pool. Unless you want 'Daybreak 24/7 fast respawn 100Mbit'. When OSL comes it around I'd be surprised if it was one of their maps.
Doesn't freaking excuse that it is a piss poor map. Daybreak is a good map but I'm not saying I want all maps to be that way. Variety is FINE but this way is not. "No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map" is the worst fucking excuse I've ever heard. It is so disgustingly ignorant.


Eh, it's a perfectly reasonable argument for a Proleague map. Also, the fact that a number of teams have sent Zergs on that map despite Terrans being the most common pick indicates that they have an idea how to handle something as elementary as Siege Tanks.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 17 2012 14:08 GMT
#256
How is that a good argument? A bloody map pick shouldn't give a large advantage to a race as a whole. It's fine if it plays to a certain player's style etc but this is silly.

Also beating a washed up foreigner doesn't mean the map is balanced.
#freeshauni
Talin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Montenegro10532 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 14:18:52
December 17 2012 14:18 GMT
#257
There is no evidence that it gives a large advantage to any race. The ability to put a Tank on high ground doesn't discard a map at all. It's a basic strategic feature.
Big J
Profile Joined March 2011
Austria16289 Posts
December 17 2012 14:21 GMT
#258
Quick question: what keeps Terran on this map from going 1rax 5 CC?
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 17 2012 14:22 GMT
#259
On December 17 2012 23:21 Big J wrote:
Quick question: what keeps Terran on this map from going 1rax 5 CC?


Nydus, Mutas, killing the rocks and attacking? Sure there are rocks but It's not impossible to break them, the ones that lead right up the middle to the enemy base has less HP and armor than the ones on the side, I believe It's only 2000 or 1000 even.
Elem
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden4717 Posts
December 17 2012 14:27 GMT
#260
On December 17 2012 23:18 Talin wrote:
There is no evidence that it gives a large advantage to any race. The ability to put a Tank on high ground doesn't discard a map at all. It's a basic strategic feature.
Yeah, people couldn't see how dumb Jungle Basin or Kulas Ravine was in the first weeks either. Doesn't mean it wasn't a retarded map to put in to begin with.

Don't even know why I'm bothering anyway cos it's obvious you are just blanking me with halfassed answers.
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