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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote: Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin. how so? | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
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gillon
Sweden1578 Posts
It's bullshit because he can't do his standard 3 hatch infestor-sit-on-his-ass bullshit. The usual, y'know. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
they're beatable, but you have to go mutas and fast. (or at least, that would be one way to beat it and is the only one I can think of right now) | ||
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Proseat
Germany5113 Posts
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:24 sc2superfan101 wrote: Well there you go...they're beatable, but you have to go mutas and fast. (or at least, that would be one way to beat it and is the only one I can think of right now) | ||
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mesozoic
41 Posts
On December 17 2012 21:27 Elem wrote: Not sure what's more retarded. This Zerg's play or this map... So you didn't watch Thorzain vs Songduri where lots of tears were shed by Egtl fans when Thorzain lost almost all of his scvs to a zerg counter attack. | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
yeah but I'm a gold level Terran. I don't even play Zerg and I can think of one almost hard-counter to siege play, I think pro Zergs can come up with something. and even if siege tanks force mutas, that won't necessarily be all that bad. I don't know why a Zerg wouldn't go mutas anyway on a map that perfect for it. | ||
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Zeon0
Austria2995 Posts
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JeffGoldblum
Cook Islands191 Posts
On December 17 2012 21:39 Elem wrote: Really cool? Are you kidding me? You don't even need to look for 3 seconds to see that it is massive bullshit in TvZ. Worse than both Xel'Naga and Jungle Basin. Why are you mad though? No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map so I don't see any problem with having it in the map pool. Unless you want 'Daybreak 24/7 fast respawn 100Mbit'. When OSL comes it around I'd be surprised if it was one of their maps. | ||
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S_SienZ
1878 Posts
Was undecided between KT and SKT for this week FPL, glad I made the right choice! | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:46 Zeon0 wrote: gold level Terran theorycrafts about Zerg strategies on a map he never played on and saw like two TvZs? good stuff! Doesn't that describe most people on this forum? | ||
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sc2superfan101
3583 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:46 Zeon0 wrote: gold level Terran theorycrafts about Zerg strategies on a map he never played on and saw like two TvZs? good stuff! was I wrong about anything? (and I have played on it, Custom games yo!) edit: oh and I've seen 3 TvZs. Zerg won 2 of them. edit 2: (using mutas when they won, ironically) | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On December 17 2012 22:49 JeffGoldblum wrote: Doesn't freaking excuse that it is a piss poor map. Daybreak is a good map but I'm not saying I want all maps to be that way. Variety is FINE but this way is not. "No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map" is the worst fucking excuse I've ever heard. It is so disgustingly ignorant.Why are you mad though? No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map so I don't see any problem with having it in the map pool. Unless you want 'Daybreak 24/7 fast respawn 100Mbit'. When OSL comes it around I'd be surprised if it was one of their maps. Muta play is relatively strong on it but Muta Ling Bling has never countered BioTank builds. It's a balanced matchup which generally is about skill and positioning. And if you look at the map the attacking Terran has a very favoured position. Meanwhile an attacking Zerg does not have such an advantage, as all their ground units vs T are melee and cannot make use of the terrain. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:02 Elem wrote: Doesn't freaking excuse that it is a piss poor map. Daybreak is a good map but I'm not saying I want all maps to be that way. Variety is FINE but this way is not. "No one is forcing any team to field a zerg on that map" is the worst fucking excuse I've ever heard. It is so disgustingly ignorant. Eh, it's a perfectly reasonable argument for a Proleague map. Also, the fact that a number of teams have sent Zergs on that map despite Terrans being the most common pick indicates that they have an idea how to handle something as elementary as Siege Tanks. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
Also beating a washed up foreigner doesn't mean the map is balanced. | ||
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Talin
Montenegro10532 Posts
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Big J
Austria16289 Posts
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Dodgin
Canada39254 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:21 Big J wrote: Quick question: what keeps Terran on this map from going 1rax 5 CC? Nydus, Mutas, killing the rocks and attacking? Sure there are rocks but It's not impossible to break them, the ones that lead right up the middle to the enemy base has less HP and armor than the ones on the side, I believe It's only 2000 or 1000 even. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On December 17 2012 23:18 Talin wrote: Yeah, people couldn't see how dumb Jungle Basin or Kulas Ravine was in the first weeks either. Doesn't mean it wasn't a retarded map to put in to begin with.There is no evidence that it gives a large advantage to any race. The ability to put a Tank on high ground doesn't discard a map at all. It's a basic strategic feature. Don't even know why I'm bothering anyway cos it's obvious you are just blanking me with halfassed answers. | ||
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