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Xpace
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2209 Posts
December 16 2012 05:11 GMT
#721
Sigh, that's why you get casters on the ground, not somewhere 6000 miles away or something.
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 16 2012 05:12 GMT
#722
On December 16 2012 14:11 Adreme wrote:
Should I feel embaressed at how bad the english chat is on the Korean Stream?


I'm pretty sure what the koreans are saying is equally bad or worse on average
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
December 16 2012 05:12 GMT
#723
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?

You've misinterpreted what he was saying, he's a "huge fan of the format and games it produces"

Also the scene is in far better hands with the kespa professional mapmakers switching than the guys at blizz who are largely clueless and just put out boring, macro maps these days to keep the community happy.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 16 2012 05:12 GMT
#724
Going to be so fun to see if Hero and Taeja can pull off CLEAN TOURNAMENT play against KeSPA players with some hardcore weird builds.
The curse is real
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 16 2012 05:13 GMT
#725
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?


Yes, please explain. A 'shit' league is the last place you want test maps because you want to see it at the highest levels. Having PL players playing on them is great, we can see what type of strategies comes out from the top gamers. But the format is good for it because teams can pick the race (that is why you see a lot of mirrors in BW PL as well due to maps). So if teams start stacking a certain race for a map (or not picking one of the races at all), Kespa can then see what the issues are and implement some tweaks.
gyad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States423 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-16 05:13:39
December 16 2012 05:13 GMT
#726
Bogus should've just kept the banshee at home in case of a follow up drop. That was dumb

There was zero way for that banshee to do damage by itself.
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 16 2012 05:13 GMT
#727
I missed TB for 10 minutes
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
rj rl
Profile Joined May 2012
648 Posts
December 16 2012 05:13 GMT
#728
On December 16 2012 14:07 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?


No because I agree with what he said about Proleague being perfect place to test maps and not for the reason you made up. Its perfect because if a map is imbalanced you just dont play that race on it. Thats why they could make a map that is only good for TvT in proleague and it would be fine because you can just send out terrans for it.

that's true but how do you know it's imbalanced? Arkanoid hails all the craziest shit and suddenly i do hear "oh this is rubbish, where are my beloved marine tanks\mass infestors\6queens abusive strategies!!11" whilst i thought everyone was whining on a stagnant meta. Here you got the potential for the new one.
Arceus
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Vietnam8333 Posts
December 16 2012 05:14 GMT
#729
On December 16 2012 14:07 Adreme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?


No because I agree with what he said about Proleague being perfect place to test maps and not for the reason you made up. Its perfect because if a map is imbalanced you just dont play that race on it. Thats why they could make a map that is only good for TvT in proleague and it would be fine because you can just send out terrans for it.

dont forget KeSPA has their map strictly tested by proteams as well. And so far theres no map that frequently features only once race, albeit a few PvP on Caldeum. At the same time, just look at Kerrigan Altar LE or Wonwonwonhana. Just tell me which map needs to be phased out after Round 1 please, no bias please.
People calling Proleague a map-testing league just because their maps are unique is pure shortsighted
ne4aJIb
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Russian Federation3209 Posts
December 16 2012 05:14 GMT
#730
Now I miss TB again
Bisu,Best,Stork,Jangbi and Flash, Fantasy, Leta, Light and Jaedong, Hydra, Zero, Soulkey assemble in ACE now!
ZerglingTwins
Profile Joined October 2012
United States850 Posts
December 16 2012 05:14 GMT
#731
offline again. sigh, hope this doesn't happen in next series.
Searching for my twin ling brother.
TehV747
Profile Joined June 2011
180 Posts
December 16 2012 05:14 GMT
#732
uh oh. stream died again
willfeeling
Profile Joined August 2012
China97 Posts
December 16 2012 05:14 GMT
#733
ffffff off again
Maesy
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1444 Posts
December 16 2012 05:14 GMT
#734
TB must be getting pissed.
Official Nathanias Fanclub Manager! http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=401880
nomyx
Profile Joined June 2012
United States2205 Posts
December 16 2012 05:15 GMT
#735
On December 16 2012 14:14 Arceus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:07 Adreme wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?


No because I agree with what he said about Proleague being perfect place to test maps and not for the reason you made up. Its perfect because if a map is imbalanced you just dont play that race on it. Thats why they could make a map that is only good for TvT in proleague and it would be fine because you can just send out terrans for it.

dont forget KeSPA has their map strictly tested by proteams as well. And so far theres no map that frequently features only once race, albeit a few PvP on Caldeum. At the same time, just look at Kerrigan Altar LE or Wonwonwonhana. Just tell me which map needs to be phased out after Round 1 please, no bias please.
People calling Proleague a map-testing league just because their maps are unique is pure shortsighted


What exactly is wonwonwon ohana? 1/1/1?
fire_brand
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada1123 Posts
December 16 2012 05:15 GMT
#736
Ugh, every time it goes down I have to watch this effing farcry 3 commercial. I think I've seen it over 500 times at least.
Random player, pixel enthusiast, crappy illustrator, offlane/support
Tobblish
Profile Joined August 2011
Sweden6404 Posts
December 16 2012 05:15 GMT
#737
On December 16 2012 14:15 fire_brand wrote:
Ugh, every time it goes down I have to watch this effing farcry 3 commercial. I think I've seen it over 500 times at least.

Adblock, heard about it?
The curse is real
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 05:16 GMT
#738
On December 16 2012 14:12 Scarecrow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?

You've misinterpreted what he was saying, he's a "huge fan of the format and games it produces"

Also the scene is in far better hands with the kespa professional mapmakers switching than the guys at blizz who are largely clueless and just put out boring, macro maps these days to keep the community happy.

these "kespa professional mapmakers" are the same guys who made daybreak, calm before the storm, whirlwind, etc
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
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vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 16 2012 05:16 GMT
#739
On December 16 2012 14:13 rj rl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:07 Adreme wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:05 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 14:01 vthree wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:58 rj rl wrote:
On December 16 2012 13:55 Zebb wrote:
It must be so frustrating for Blizzard to be held to such a ludicrously high standard for mapmaking, then have someone at kespa vomit up something like arkanoid and watch all the fanboys go nuts over it. Don't get me wrong, Proleague is the IDEAL place to see crazy maps like this, and I am a huge fan of the format and games it produces, but arkanoid isn't even comparable to the kind of maps that are in GSL or WCS.


because why, it hasn't 9000 games played on it? Like ohana does (~7000wonwon), like CK does (bl\infestor everytime)? Why so close-minded and kespa-hating lol


Lol, Kespa hating? He said PL was the IDEAL place to test these maps... How is that Kespa hating??? Fanboy much?

a good place to test shit maps is a shit league, should i explain further what did he mean?


No because I agree with what he said about Proleague being perfect place to test maps and not for the reason you made up. Its perfect because if a map is imbalanced you just dont play that race on it. Thats why they could make a map that is only good for TvT in proleague and it would be fine because you can just send out terrans for it.

that's true but how do you know it's imbalanced? Arkanoid hails all the craziest shit and suddenly i do hear "oh this is rubbish, where are my beloved marine tanks\mass infestors\6queens abusive strategies!!11" whilst i thought everyone was whining on a stagnant meta. Here you got the potential for the new one.


Thing is, no one know whether it is balanced or imbalanced yet (well, maybe the kespa pros who have been playing a lot on it but still relatively new to them). I think people are all for new maps and strategies. We just would prefer to have it tested in a PL setting (teams can pick races) before it is unleashed to individual leagues like a GSL, MLG, etc.
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 16 2012 05:16 GMT
#740
On December 16 2012 14:15 Tobblish wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 16 2012 14:15 fire_brand wrote:
Ugh, every time it goes down I have to watch this effing farcry 3 commercial. I think I've seen it over 500 times at least.

Adblock, heard about it?

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