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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
December 17 2012 08:07 GMT
#1601
Leenock should 3 hatch before pool again for shits and gigs
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 17 2012 08:07 GMT
#1602
On December 17 2012 17:06 mierin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:05 Lakona wrote:
Holy fuck it took EVERYTHING stacked in his favor to stop that lololol


Pretty much...haha

Just imagine if Parting actually ever scouted. I mean, he made his cannon before the pool started LOL.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 17 2012 08:07 GMT
#1603
On December 17 2012 17:05 Megabuster123 wrote:
There's no way Parting was going to beat such a greedy build with an immortal sentry all-in.


He would have a hard time taking a third. It is like Ps letting terrans go 3 CC + double Ebay without taking a quick 3rd themselves. The terrans just outmacro's you and you can't take your 3rd to get your AoEs out in enough numbers.
stuchiu
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Fiddler's Green42661 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1604
Last time Parting lost his soul push he broke down and went 0-4 lin Code S. Wonder if this will happen again.
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Wintex
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Norway16838 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1605
Please decimate him, PartinG.
The Bomber boy
-TesteR-
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1165 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1606
On December 17 2012 17:06 vthree wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:05 -TesteR- wrote:
for all those asking from before, this is why toss don't spam the immortal allin build


To be fair, that was a SUPER risky build...


It didn't need to be though, the counter attack really fucks over the protoss and weakens the push.
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1607
This was definitely a prepared response from Leenock.
Maloreon
Profile Joined May 2012
United States911 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1608
Also, this is basically what Jaedong could have done in his game the other day against wonwonwon. I think you have to bust their wall, clear out the probes at natural FAST and then double back to home to flank. This way their warp-ins are at 1/2 effectiveness with half economy. Who knows though not enough games with Zergs trying for that. I can't tell if this works in my own play cause the Protoss on ladder push at least 1 full minute after Parting and its much easier to hold. hmmm....
Leenock, Gumiho, Life, Flash, Parting, Scarlett
Jmanthedragonguy
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada1202 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1609
Leenock kinda metagamed PartinG's soul push lol, If he woulda played that standard he would been so screwed :/
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1610
On December 17 2012 17:08 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:06 vthree wrote:
On December 17 2012 17:05 -TesteR- wrote:
for all those asking from before, this is why toss don't spam the immortal allin build


To be fair, that was a SUPER risky build...


It didn't need to be though, the counter attack really fucks over the protoss and weakens the push.

parting had a really solid wall up for his main; the natural wasn't as solid though
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JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4414 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1611
On December 17 2012 17:08 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:06 vthree wrote:
On December 17 2012 17:05 -TesteR- wrote:
for all those asking from before, this is why toss don't spam the immortal allin build


To be fair, that was a SUPER risky build...


It didn't need to be though, the counter attack really fucks over the protoss and weakens the push.


If he didn't go 2-hatch before pool he doesn't have such a huge amount of units to counter attack with while still having enough at home.
vthree
Profile Joined November 2011
Hong Kong8039 Posts
December 17 2012 08:08 GMT
#1612
On December 17 2012 17:07 sitromit wrote:
Both Zergs who held this went hatch 1st.


Yeah, because PartinG's version also goes Nexus first.
EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
December 17 2012 08:09 GMT
#1613
On December 17 2012 17:08 -TesteR- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:06 vthree wrote:
On December 17 2012 17:05 -TesteR- wrote:
for all those asking from before, this is why toss don't spam the immortal allin build


To be fair, that was a SUPER risky build...


It didn't need to be though, the counter attack really fucks over the protoss and weakens the push.

The econ doesn't quite work out that fast unless you happened to be super greedy.
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
December 17 2012 08:09 GMT
#1614
On December 17 2012 17:07 EtherealDeath wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:06 mierin wrote:
On December 17 2012 17:05 Lakona wrote:
Holy fuck it took EVERYTHING stacked in his favor to stop that lololol


Pretty much...haha

Just imagine if Parting actually ever scouted. I mean, he made his cannon before the pool started LOL.



Very true there, friend
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
lannisport
Profile Joined February 2012
878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-17 08:10:11
December 17 2012 08:09 GMT
#1615
On December 17 2012 17:08 Maloreon wrote:
Also, this is basically what Jaedong could have done in his game the other day against wonwonwon. I think you have to bust their wall, clear out the probes at natural FAST and then double back to home to flank. This way their warp-ins are at 1/2 effectiveness with half economy. Who knows though not enough games with Zergs trying for that. I can't tell if this works in my own play cause the Protoss on ladder push at least 1 full minute after Parting and its much easier to hold. hmmm....


Yeah I was about to say. Jaedong's mistake was that he tried to go up the ramp after killing his natural and he threw like 20 lings and 8 roaches away for nothing.
KingOfNoodles
Profile Joined June 2012
Australia379 Posts
December 17 2012 08:09 GMT
#1616
On December 17 2012 17:07 sitromit wrote:
Both Zergs who held this went hatch 1st.


Sniper went 15hatch, 15pool, 18 hatch

Leenock went 15 hatch, 17 hatch, 18pool?
Sc2Null
Profile Joined April 2011
United States3754 Posts
December 17 2012 08:10 GMT
#1617
so wait, doesn't both parting and leenock still advance?
The great Spaghetti vs Screwdriver debacle of June '12" - Porcelina
Megabuster123
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada1837 Posts
December 17 2012 08:10 GMT
#1618
On December 17 2012 17:08 Maloreon wrote:
Also, this is basically what Jaedong could have done in his game the other day against wonwonwon. I think you have to bust their wall, clear out the probes at natural FAST and then double back to home to flank. This way their warp-ins are at 1/2 effectiveness with half economy. Who knows though not enough games with Zergs trying for that. I can't tell if this works in my own play cause the Protoss on ladder push at least 1 full minute after Parting and its much easier to hold. hmmm....

No, you hold it by blind countering it with an extremely greedy 3 hatch before pool build.
DrPandaPhD
Profile Joined November 2011
5188 Posts
December 17 2012 08:11 GMT
#1619
On December 17 2012 17:10 Sc2Null wrote:
so wait, doesn't both parting and leenock still advance?


Top 3 advances but I think being first in the group makes you have to play 1 less series
리노크 👑
sitromit
Profile Joined June 2011
7051 Posts
December 17 2012 08:11 GMT
#1620
On December 17 2012 17:08 JJH777 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2012 17:08 -TesteR- wrote:
On December 17 2012 17:06 vthree wrote:
On December 17 2012 17:05 -TesteR- wrote:
for all those asking from before, this is why toss don't spam the immortal allin build


To be fair, that was a SUPER risky build...


It didn't need to be though, the counter attack really fucks over the protoss and weakens the push.


If he didn't go 2-hatch before pool he doesn't have such a huge amount of units to counter attack with while still having enough at home.


This... Jaedong had much fewer drones, because he opened standard, and he had nothing back home to defend until his units could come back. He also couldn't have afforded to make spines like Leenock did.
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