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pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
December 08 2012 07:44 GMT
#1101
On December 08 2012 16:44 whirlpool wrote:
now there can only be pvp on that map lol, unless blizzard makes queen massive type lololol

You seriously making a balance post about that map after 1 game?
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Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
December 08 2012 07:44 GMT
#1102
On December 08 2012 16:43 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:42 MasterKang wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:40 -NegativeZero- wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:38 shizaep wrote:
This map is ridiculously imbalanced. You actually just can't have chokes like that in SC2. And that stalker spot....just no.

I agree about the stalker spot, but a 1 FF choke at the main is STANDARD in all maps. That warp prism attack would have played out the exact same way if it was on a map with a normal ramped main.


there are no maps with 1 FF chokes between main and 3rd..


because normally your main isn't connected directly with your third O_o


Well, to be fair, a 3rd for the Z at 8 min in a ZvP is playing wrong from the begining.
Chicken gank op
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 08 2012 07:44 GMT
#1103
I mean if it would make you guys feel better they could make that little choke a ramp instead so it feels like any other map when you get ff'd out of your main?
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1104
On December 08 2012 16:43 pdd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:42 NightElf wrote:
Lol.......I dont understand why SC2 needs choke..For gods sake,make wider choke kespa.this game was really bad..someone losing like that..
Anyway atleast bisu smiled....
gj best....

People will then whine about 4gate v 4gate PvP. See: Tal'Darim Altar, Scrap Station.


And ling bling allins in ZvZ as well. We have 1 FF ramps to the main for a reason people, what game have you all been playing for the past 2 years? z_z
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1105
Does anyone have a larger image of the Bifrost map?

[image loading]
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kabar
Profile Joined November 2010
United States616 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1106
hope fanta wins and we get an ace match.
MasterKang
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1373 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1107
On December 08 2012 16:43 Caihead wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:42 MasterKang wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:40 -NegativeZero- wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:38 shizaep wrote:
This map is ridiculously imbalanced. You actually just can't have chokes like that in SC2. And that stalker spot....just no.

I agree about the stalker spot, but a 1 FF choke at the main is STANDARD in all maps. That warp prism attack would have played out the exact same way if it was on a map with a normal ramped main.


there are no maps with 1 FF chokes between main and 3rd..


because normally your main isn't connected directly with your third O_o


nat and 3rd*, basically my point is that no maps have all 3 bases connected by 1 FF ramps
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Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1108
Yes we get to see all the maps today!
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1109
On December 08 2012 16:42 NotYetAWoman wrote:
Doa Seriously need to stop talking about Balance issues ect during the games, really frustrating to listen to and diminishes the excitement so insanely. if u dont have anything to talk about, dont talk at all, dont use fillers with "ey map saxx and 1 forcefield killz iet" this is why amature casters shouldnt get to go to korea..... annoys the shit out of me.


DoA has been barely ranting or complaining about anything today.

In fact, people have been saying DoA has been sugarcoating loses for players more so than ranting about anything.

Also if you compare to what half of the people here are talking bad about the maps every page, it's not bad compared to what people are saying here.
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Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1110
On December 08 2012 16:44 Ammanas wrote:
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On December 08 2012 16:41 Shellshock1122 wrote:
shit I think I had hyvaa on my team as a last minute change T_T


yeah, me too -.-
hyvaa instead of soO...

Same. Classic "hmmm who patchzerg could be better?".
Chicken gank op
megapants
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1314 Posts
December 08 2012 07:45 GMT
#1111
over time we may see teams agree that protoss is op on this map and they will only see pvp on this map for a while.

but then someone will break the pvp meta on this map and we may see teams chuck zerg back on it. that's the beauty of this format, isn't it?

it seems people expect to only see tvt on arkanoid but i see a lot of potential in the other matchups for that map
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1112
On December 08 2012 16:42 NightElf wrote:
Lol.......I dont understand why SC2 needs choke..For gods sake,make wider choke kespa.this game was really bad..someone losing like that..
Anyway atleast bisu smiled....
gj best....

you do realise protoss early game hinges on being able to use 1 ff to wall of their main?
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SoFrOsTy
Profile Joined December 2011
United States525 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-08 07:46:56
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1113
He didn't lose because of the choke, he had NO units. None, whatsoever.

*EDIT* I say this after watchign the recap. He had 3 infestors when this push came. I don't care what map between main and 3rd or between main and nat, your going to take damage if you have only 3 infestors vs an army that big.
Julyzerg ftw
blade55555
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States17423 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1114
rofl this tvt is going to be hilarious.
When I think of something else, something will go here
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1115
Also, you can run your units around that little pathway on the side of the map to get back to your main if you get FF'D out. He didn't try to do that.
SarcasmMonster
Profile Joined October 2011
3136 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1116
NVM found it.

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
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Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1117
On December 08 2012 16:42 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:39 Serpico wrote:
ahhh FF, ruining the coolest of maps.

Ruining SC2 in general, IMO.

Well ya, you just can't have terrain altering spells. It's too big of a can of worms to possibly think it can ever be balanced/good for the game. It's just easier to axe it, but that discussion isn't suited for this thread perhaps.
pdd
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia9933 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1118
On December 08 2012 16:45 SarcasmMonster wrote:
Does anyone have a larger image of the Bifrost map?

[image loading]

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/images2/1/16/Bifrost.jpg
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Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1119
On December 08 2012 16:43 figq wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 08 2012 16:32 Dosey wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:25 figq wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:22 Dosey wrote:
On December 08 2012 16:19 jalstar wrote:
You Rain anti-team guys are brave, Bogus is a lot better than most of Rain's opponents will be.

Seriously. I'd much rather pick a really bad player and two mid tiers than one top tier and two really bads.
with rain you can pick two 1 pointers who will never be played
and rain is indeed overpriced at 12, which usually means anti-team

Different strategies I guess. I think JD was the more glaringly obvious high priced anti choice with zenio/thorzain being an easy 2nd if you want to pick a 1 pointer 3rd.
by the way, i was only theorizing about rain on anti
i myself went full T8 on anti

I picked Jangbi for some stupid reason.
justinpal
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3810 Posts
December 08 2012 07:46 GMT
#1120
On December 08 2012 16:44 avilo wrote:
Why are casters saying this is abuse? Everyone knows you can do the sentry FF insta-win on virtually every map with a 1 FF ramp. It's just most Zergs nowadays are knowledgeable enough and prepare for it and shut it down quite easily.


Well, in Monte's defense he's only listening to Doa. In DoA's defense he's wrong. Hyvaa took his third first, and left his pocket un-taken forever..
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