On December 08 2012 16:41 SoFrOsTy wrote: I know everyone is saying that forcefield ruined that map, which I don't disagree. But I don't even think we can for sure judge, that build that Hyvaa did was terrible.... he had 3 infestors when this push came. on any map with a ramp that build would have worked. lol
Hyvaa had another base connected to the main by ground to reinforce with, remember that, that's actually even better than having main with ramp.
On December 08 2012 16:38 shizaep wrote: This map is ridiculously imbalanced. You actually just can't have chokes like that in SC2. And that stalker spot....just no.
I agree about the stalker spot, but a 1 FF choke at the main is STANDARD in all maps. That warp prism attack would have played out the exact same way if it was on a map with a normal ramped main.
there are no maps with 1 FF chokes between main and 3rd..
On December 08 2012 16:39 Sigh wrote: Rofl nice map. Too bad that choke point can be ff'ed forever
Same as a normal ramp, and you have 2 bases to reinforce your main with, so its actually less imba than dropping in your main and forcefielding the ramp.
And you actually have vision so you can try to snipe of Sentries if they get too close.
On December 08 2012 16:38 shizaep wrote: This map is ridiculously imbalanced. You actually just can't have chokes like that in SC2. And that stalker spot....just no.
I agree about the stalker spot, but a 1 FF choke at the main is STANDARD in all maps. That warp prism attack would have played out the exact same way if it was on a map with a normal ramped main.
1 FF choke like Daybreak, Antiga, Entombed, Cloud Kingdom, etc..... It only worked because Best was able to distract hyvaa by harassing the natural like that.
Doa Seriously need to stop talking about Balance issues ect during the games, really frustrating to listen to and diminishes the excitement so insanely. if u dont have anything to talk about, dont talk at all, dont use fillers with "ey map saxx and 1 forcefield killz iet" this is why amature casters shouldnt get to go to korea..... annoys the shit out of me.
On December 08 2012 16:37 fuzzylogic44 wrote: I like the map mix up, but I think it's funny that so many are praising them because if blizzard had made these and put them in ladder there would be no end to the lamentations of how bad they are
Well, maybe but one of the main reasons why these maps are being praised is because it's being used in a team league / pro league where imbalanced or favored races don't matter as much (again, teams can decide which race to send on which maps).
No they can't. Maps are drawn after teams have sent out their players. They do that to make sure you don't get mirror matchups all the time because, for example, everyone sends out a P on Daybreak every time.
You sure this is the case? It seems like they knew the maps because in both team games today, they only sent Ts on Arkanoid (rocktastic map).
Though IDK, just mirroring what other people have been saying.
On December 08 2012 16:38 shizaep wrote: This map is ridiculously imbalanced. You actually just can't have chokes like that in SC2. And that stalker spot....just no.
I agree about the stalker spot, but a 1 FF choke at the main is STANDARD in all maps. That warp prism attack would have played out the exact same way if it was on a map with a normal ramped main.
there are no maps with 1 FF chokes between main and 3rd..
On December 08 2012 16:37 fuzzylogic44 wrote: I like the map mix up, but I think it's funny that so many are praising them because if blizzard had made these and put them in ladder there would be no end to the lamentations of how bad they are
Well, maybe but one of the main reasons why these maps are being praised is because it's being used in a team league / pro league where imbalanced or favored races don't matter as much (again, teams can decide which race to send on which maps).
No they can't. Maps are drawn after teams have sent out their players. They do that to make sure you don't get mirror matchups all the time because, for example, everyone sends out a P on Daybreak every time.
Umm, what? No. The maps are given first, then each team chooses what player will play each map. Otherwise they would just be arranging players randomly...
So best is good at pvz this season, nice to know. But holy crap the kespa map makers hate zerg this year, antiga, this map, the one flash played on, zerg will not like the maps this season.