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GoSuChicken
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany1726 Posts
November 24 2012 18:17 GMT
#2101
Liquid Boss mode!
freddergeier
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany140 Posts
November 24 2012 18:17 GMT
#2102
Songname?
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 24 2012 18:17 GMT
#2103
On November 25 2012 03:15 mcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:09 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.


achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's



really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).

I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.

WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.


she's only entered the MLGs and IPLs where she was put out by code S level koreans, kind of harsh to judge her lan performance when she plays the best players every time
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2104
On November 25 2012 03:16 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:15 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


Foreigners are more like code A to be honest

way to generalize


Yeah, sure some are Code A, but it's a huge generalisation. Most are Code B.


Dude Code B Koreans are generally really good.


Isn't like everyone Code B, including me and you?
Ventris
Profile Joined December 2011
Germany1226 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2105
On November 25 2012 03:17 HaXXspetten wrote:
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On November 25 2012 03:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
This sounds like Germany's answer to Carameldansen to me

...not that it's in any way comparable in terms of quality, I don't think I could manage a whole 10 hour vid of this, but point still standing

screw it now I got myself all hyped again


This is the most awesome thing i have ever seen
Slackzftw
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany361 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2106
Only 4 terrans in the tourney and we get one in the finals. BAM
Qwerty85
Profile Joined June 2012
Croatia5536 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2107
On November 25 2012 03:14 Malinor wrote:
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On November 25 2012 03:11 Serelitz wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


More like Taeja atm is low code S level and foreigners are maybe code A at best.

on topic: Happy Taeja won, at least now infestor ZvX snoozefest as finals now. No PvP finals is good as well :p


No way Taeja is low CodeS level. He just lost early this GSL, that shit happens, look at everyone that is even in CodeA right now. He made the Ro8 three times in a row or so before. Taeja is easily a Top10 player world wide.


GSL is a different beast. Some people here don't realize it, or don't want to realize it. You need to be in top shape for a full month + your opponents have time to prepare for your playstyle. Taeja wasn't able to win GSL when he was in his best shape. In my opinion, you can't be labeled the best terran, zerg, protoss until you win GSL
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2108
On November 25 2012 03:17 mememolly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:15 mcc wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:09 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.


achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's



really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).

I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.

WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.


she's only entered the MLGs and IPLs where she was put out by code S level koreans, kind of harsh to judge her lan performance when she plays the best players every time


Didnt she lose to Daisy at MLG?
While I like him, he isnt exactly Code S
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2109
On November 25 2012 03:17 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
I must admit...this music is pretty terrible :r

Needs more kpop.

Specifically IU. She is soooooooo cute.

in case you've not been up to date the last few weeks, she's also a slut


Oh no she has sex what a slut!
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2110
On November 25 2012 03:17 ES.Genie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:15 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


Foreigners are more like code A to be honest

way to generalize


Yeah, sure some are Code A, but it's a huge generalisation. Most are Code B.

Lol no. Most players in Code B are better than majority of foreigners.


Look at Rain for example!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
mcc
Profile Joined October 2010
Czech Republic4646 Posts
November 24 2012 18:18 GMT
#2111
On November 25 2012 03:15 Darpa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:11 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:09 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.


achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's



really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).

I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.


to be polite, NA tournaments are not that stacked


Well I agree to an extent (although I dont think WCS poland is any better than WCS Canada, basically 2-3 good players in each), But given that she has a winning ratio against Nerchio, I just dont like the argument that achievements are everything.

That is why nobody actually counts WCS Poland, only Homestory and DH as Nerchio's wins.
Kasaraki
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Denmark7115 Posts
November 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#2112
On November 25 2012 03:16 ref4 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:15 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


Foreigners are more like code A to be honest

way to generalize


Yeah, sure some are Code A, but it's a huge generalisation. Most are Code B.


Dude Code B Koreans are generally really good.


I know. My favourite player is in Code B. T_T
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#2113
On November 25 2012 03:18 Ventris wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:17 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 HaXXspetten wrote:
This sounds like Germany's answer to Carameldansen to me

...not that it's in any way comparable in terms of quality, I don't think I could manage a whole 10 hour vid of this, but point still standing

screw it now I got myself all hyped again

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvq9r6R6QAY

This is the most awesome thing i have ever seen

had it on repeat for 16 hrs 20-something mins during summer vacation one day
mememolly
Profile Joined December 2011
4765 Posts
November 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#2114
On November 25 2012 03:18 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:17 mememolly wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 mcc wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:09 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.


achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's



really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).

I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.

WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.


she's only entered the MLGs and IPLs where she was put out by code S level koreans, kind of harsh to judge her lan performance when she plays the best players every time


Didnt she lose to Daisy at MLG?
While I like him, he isnt exactly Code S


I'm talking about recently not like a year ago, rofl
S_SienZ
Profile Joined September 2011
1878 Posts
November 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#2115
On November 25 2012 03:18 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:16 ref4 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


Foreigners are more like code A to be honest

way to generalize


Yeah, sure some are Code A, but it's a huge generalisation. Most are Code B.


Dude Code B Koreans are generally really good.


Isn't like everyone Code B, including me and you?

Actually you need to be at least KR High Masters to even qualify for Code B, so no
ref4
Profile Joined March 2012
2933 Posts
November 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#2116
On November 25 2012 03:18 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:16 ref4 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 Kasaraki wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:13 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:12 Qwerty85 wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


Foreigners are more like code A to be honest

way to generalize


Yeah, sure some are Code A, but it's a huge generalisation. Most are Code B.


Dude Code B Koreans are generally really good.


Isn't like everyone Code B, including me and you?


Code S > Code A > Code B > normal battlenet ranking (Grand Master, Master etc.)

so you and I will be in Grand Master and below.
Canucklehead
Profile Joined March 2011
Canada5074 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-24 18:20:16
November 24 2012 18:19 GMT
#2117
On November 25 2012 03:16 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:14 Malinor wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:11 Serelitz wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:10 Salient wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:02 tuho12345 wrote:
oh man that differences between Koreans and foreigners Taeja made so many mistakes and still won easily.


IMO the top foreigners are low GSL Code S level (Naniwa made the round of 16 three seasons in a row, I think). But Taeja is one of the top 10 players in the world. Taeja's multitasking is just amazing, even among Koreans. No shame in losing to him.


More like Taeja atm is low code S level and foreigners are maybe code A at best.

on topic: Happy Taeja won, at least now infestor ZvX snoozefest as finals now. No PvP finals is good as well :p


No way Taeja is low CodeS level. He just lost early this GSL, that shit happens, look at everyone that is even in CodeA right now. He made the Ro8 three times in a row or so before. Taeja is easily a Top10 player world wide.

Taeja hasn't been playing well the past 1-2 months by any standard. Had some wrist trouble or something?


Indeed. Taeja has been slumping last couple of months and him beating foreigners here at DH doesn't really show he's out of his slump. This is a pretty easy tournament for pretty much most code A/S koreans to win. Competition level isn't ESWC bad, but pretty close to it.
Top 10 favourite pros: MKP, MVP, MC, Nestea, DRG, Jaedong, Flash, Life, Creator, Leenock
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
November 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#2118
On November 25 2012 03:18 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:17 HaXXspetten wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:16 eviltomahawk wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 Zerg.Zilla wrote:
I must admit...this music is pretty terrible :r

Needs more kpop.

Specifically IU. She is soooooooo cute.

in case you've not been up to date the last few weeks, she's also a slut


Oh no she has sex what a slut!

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

/Kuja @KMD at the time ^^
revel8
Profile Joined January 2012
United Kingdom3022 Posts
November 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#2119
Taeja is the best Terran I have seen recently. His control during engagements is so crisp. Getting the most out of every fight gives him the edge over every Terran I have watched recently. I will be surprised if he fails to win this, he already has beaten the next best two players in this field. If either Hero or Monchi wins this then it will be an upset.

Also Dreamhack showing why they are the best. They show on stream what time the next game will be played AND a clock showing the current local time. This should be standard for every tournament. Watchers should not have to scrabble around trying to find out when the next match is going to take place and they should not have to perform time-zone calculations in order to work out what the scheduled time actually means for them. Show the local time so it is easy to see when the next game is - 10 minutes or an hour and 10 minutes away atc.
Fusilero
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom50293 Posts
November 24 2012 18:20 GMT
#2120
On November 25 2012 03:18 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2012 03:17 mememolly wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:15 mcc wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:09 Darpa wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:05 Lukeeze[zR] wrote:
On November 25 2012 03:01 PhoenixVoid wrote:
I think Acer's new top Zerg is Scarlett really, Nerchio looks fairly weak compared to the reputation he had as a serious Korean contender.


achivements is everything, and in this department she's not even close to nerchio's



really because Nerchio has 3 tournament wins this year, and Scarlett has 2....and Scarlett beat Nerchio in both their recent meetings (WCS and RSL).

I dont think that argument really holds. Maybe if you look at the whole career, but then I think thats irrelevant. Its like calling huk the best because he won a bunch of tournaments in 2010-early 2011.

WCS NA is not tournament with high level competition, what other LANs has she won ? And fact that she has better ZvZ than Nerchio does not make her better player overall.


she's only entered the MLGs and IPLs where she was put out by code S level koreans, kind of harsh to judge her lan performance when she plays the best players every time


Didnt she lose to Daisy at MLG?
While I like him, he isnt exactly Code S

To be fair daisy has no purpose in the world except to beat foreigners, wonwonwon out scarlett and moonglade. Forfeit vs first Korean gg no re.
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