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Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
December 13 2012 18:49 GMT
#241
There is nothing that can win against such a combo: not even mass carrier...on the other stream for MSI, Stephano is doing his Roach+Hydra style against Forgg which is much more exciting imo.
TheDwf
Profile Joined November 2011
France19747 Posts
December 13 2012 18:49 GMT
#242
On December 14 2012 03:46 Tsubbi wrote:
this is a nightmare of a game lol

it was the same in vanilla wc3, the mechanics allowed spellcasters to be massed as a viable army and so people did all the time, blizzard completely changed the unit interaction in frozen throne to prevent spellcaster massing

Don't know what you're talking about, mass casters is still standard in Human vs Orc (Sorceresses & Spellbreakers with some Priests) and Elf vs Orc (mass Druid of the Talons). Even Human mirrors often involve Spellbreakers + Priests from both sides.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 18:51:29
December 13 2012 18:50 GMT
#243
That game was disgusting. What was Scarlett's infestor count, 50?

I feel like the only way to possibly kill that is mass feedback.
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
December 13 2012 18:51 GMT
#244
On December 14 2012 03:50 Dexington wrote:
That game was disgusting. What was Scarlett's infestor count, 50?


61
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
December 13 2012 18:51 GMT
#245
On December 14 2012 03:50 Dexington wrote:
That game was disgusting. What was Scarlett's infestor count, 50?


61.

like, seriously
ibo422
Profile Joined April 2012
Belgium2844 Posts
December 13 2012 18:52 GMT
#246
I believe fraer lost close to 100k army!
Wingblade
Profile Joined April 2012
United States1806 Posts
December 13 2012 18:53 GMT
#247
On December 14 2012 03:44 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Thank you Blizzard: 61 winfestors...and the lesser player will most likely win the game.


I understand the 61 infestors is a problem, but I also think Scarlett is superior to Fraer. How many games has Fraer won against DRG? Has he 4-0ed sen before?
PartinG fanboy to the max, Rain/Squirtle/Dear/Scarlett/Bbyong are cool too. I don't always watch Dota2 but when I do I have no clue what's going on. GOGO POWER RANGERS
Rhaegar_tar
Profile Joined February 2012
France847 Posts
December 13 2012 18:53 GMT
#248
I'm waiting for her fanboys to come and say that she is really smart for massing infestors...
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
December 13 2012 18:53 GMT
#249
On December 14 2012 03:48 krutopatkin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 03:46 Tsubbi wrote:
this is a nightmare of a game lol

it was the same in vanilla wc3, the mechanics allowed spellcasters to be massed as a viable army and so people did all the time, blizzard completely changed the unit interaction in frozen throne to prevent spellcaster massing


What did they do to achieve this? Barely any clue about wc3.


they changed how damage and armor types interact, most importantly spellcasters autoattack did very little damage to basic units

in sc2 the mechanics are totally different ofc, but blizzard is aware of the issue obviously and will fix it in other ways in hots
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
December 13 2012 18:54 GMT
#250
On December 14 2012 03:53 Tsubbi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 03:48 krutopatkin wrote:
On December 14 2012 03:46 Tsubbi wrote:
this is a nightmare of a game lol

it was the same in vanilla wc3, the mechanics allowed spellcasters to be massed as a viable army and so people did all the time, blizzard completely changed the unit interaction in frozen throne to prevent spellcaster massing


What did they do to achieve this? Barely any clue about wc3.


they changed how damage and armor types interact, most importantly spellcasters autoattack did very little damage to basic units

in sc2 the mechanics are totally different ofc, but blizzard is aware of the issue obviously and will fix it in other ways in hots


They should take the snipe/ghost approach for sure.
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 13 2012 18:55 GMT
#251
On December 14 2012 03:53 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
I'm waiting for her fanboys to come and say that she is really smart for massing infestors...

Well, it is smart.
Dexington
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada7276 Posts
December 13 2012 18:58 GMT
#252
On December 14 2012 03:53 Wingblade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 03:44 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
Thank you Blizzard: 61 winfestors...and the lesser player will most likely win the game.


I understand the 61 infestors is a problem, but I also think Scarlett is superior to Fraer. How many games has Fraer won against DRG? Has he 4-0ed sen before?


4-0'd while he was extremely ill and playing cross server? Seems legit.

How many times has Fraer played DRG?
"Man you guys are missing out waving your stats dicks about instead of watching this pvp" - bbm
Psyclon
Profile Joined July 2010
Bulgaria2443 Posts
December 13 2012 18:59 GMT
#253
Sad that i missed last game, ToD must have been furious
Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds!
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
December 13 2012 19:01 GMT
#254
Aw, fuck.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
December 13 2012 19:01 GMT
#255
On December 14 2012 03:59 Psyclon wrote:
Sad that i missed last game, ToD must have been furious


He was playing the passive/agressive stance with that amount of infestors.
Godwrath
Profile Joined August 2012
Spain10165 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 19:09:33
December 13 2012 19:07 GMT
#256
Come on fraer, just go back and get colossi

Edit or that lol.
Tsubbi
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany7997 Posts
December 13 2012 19:09 GMT
#257
idras good unit
Swords
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
6038 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 19:10:36
December 13 2012 19:10 GMT
#258
On December 14 2012 03:55 StarVe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 14 2012 03:53 Rhaegar_tar wrote:
I'm waiting for her fanboys to come and say that she is really smart for massing infestors...

Well, it is smart.


You've nailed the massive problem with WoL right now.

The best strategy for Zerg to use is the most passive and boring to watch game possible. It's also really simple to do and makes it difficult to separate the skilled players from the truly incredible ones. Honestly, the fact this strategy is viable only does the best Zerg players (and Scarlett may well be included in this) a disservice as it doesn't give them a chance to show off their multitasking or ability to engage, etc. It'd be stupid though, to do anything else because mass infestor is essentially unbeatable, and these players have to make a living.

HoTS can't come fast enough.
krutopatkin
Profile Joined July 2012
Germany2612 Posts
December 13 2012 19:10 GMT
#259
what is scarlett waiting for? its not gonna get better
StarVe
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany13591 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-13 19:11:55
December 13 2012 19:10 GMT
#260
Amazing positioning by fraer there, outsmarted Scarlett by a lot in his fights.

This means he's through and Scarlett is out! If he wins the next game, he'll be first in his group!
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