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Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 08 2012 07:19 GMT
#441
lots of probes
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
ultratorr
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada332 Posts
November 08 2012 07:20 GMT
#442
yay infestor broodlord
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
November 08 2012 07:21 GMT
#443
Who needs vipers and swarm host, lol
Chicken gank op
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
November 08 2012 07:21 GMT
#444
This is a pretty intense change of style regarding casting, when I compare it to the chilled vibe I get from Tastosis every night...
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ultratorr
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada332 Posts
November 08 2012 07:21 GMT
#445
There's actually a good chance Blizzard will do something about infestors, since they want to encourage new strategies based on new units. If infestors are too strong people will keep using them, and Blizzard will nerf until people stop using them, maybe?
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 08 2012 07:21 GMT
#446
3 tempests attacking a hatchery instead of the brood lords... wtffffffff
Fueled
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1610 Posts
November 08 2012 07:21 GMT
#447
what are they saying??
The Wood League - Where a double gas opening can still mean a Marine/SCV all-in
andaylin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States10830 Posts
November 08 2012 07:21 GMT
#448
LOL is FBH calling Gisado out for not making any new units.
"Hard work beats talent when talent fails to work hard." - Kevin Durant
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
November 08 2012 07:21 GMT
#449
More time for the caster games than the player ones :O

Moar Rain vs Mvp!!!
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 08 2012 07:23 GMT
#450
FFS I was excited to see Tempests vs infestor/BL and we got 3 tempests fungaled and sniped then 3 more attacking a hatchery instead of shooting BLs.
Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:23:55
November 08 2012 07:23 GMT
#451
On November 08 2012 16:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
3 tempests attacking a hatchery instead of the brood lords... wtffffffff


The 3 tempest that attacked the infestor ball lasted... 2secs? 3?
Chicken gank op
Dodgin
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada39254 Posts
November 08 2012 07:24 GMT
#452
On November 08 2012 16:23 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 16:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
3 tempests attacking a hatchery instead of the brood lords... wtffffffff


The 3 tempest that attacked the infestor ball lasted... 2secs?


they got fungaled D:

you're supposed to park the tempest behind your colossi so they protect it from the infestors
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25372 Posts
November 08 2012 07:24 GMT
#453
On November 08 2012 16:23 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 16:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
3 tempests attacking a hatchery instead of the brood lords... wtffffffff


The 3 tempest that attacked the infestor ball lasted... 2secs? 3?

They outrange it do they not? Was just a terrible engagement surely?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
fuzzylogic44
Profile Joined December 2011
Canada2633 Posts
November 08 2012 07:24 GMT
#454
On November 08 2012 16:23 Belha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 16:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
3 tempests attacking a hatchery instead of the brood lords... wtffffffff


The 3 tempest that attacked the infestor ball lasted... 2secs? 3?


No, after he made more, and while fending off the BL infestor ling attack he had them sitting off to the side shooting a nexus with no drones at it. I was interested to see how good they would be in that situation.
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
November 08 2012 07:34 GMT
#455
On November 08 2012 16:24 Dodgin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 08 2012 16:23 Belha wrote:
On November 08 2012 16:21 fuzzylogic44 wrote:
3 tempests attacking a hatchery instead of the brood lords... wtffffffff


The 3 tempest that attacked the infestor ball lasted... 2secs?


they got fungaled D:

you're supposed to park the tempest behind your colossi so they protect it from the infestors

Exactly.

A-move Tempests and they will die. They need some basic micro the be properly positioned at all times. They simply do not do enough DPS to trade efficiently with anything in a straight-up, a-move vs a-move fight., so they need to rely on their 15 range to stay alive and slowly rack up kills from sniping stray, expensive units to be cost-efficient.
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Belha
Profile Joined December 2010
Italy2850 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-08 07:39:55
November 08 2012 07:38 GMT
#456
Let's see...

Infestor ball moving foward.

P army with Tempest:

a) Pull back (while shooting with the Tempest)

b) Stay and fight (and die)

c) Pull back

With tempest shooting speed, you can take at the most, 3 infestor or 3 bl (at most)
But eventually you have to engage. In a battle, Tempest suck, beacuse of the low dps. Z just have to move the ball, drops the infested rines as always, chain fungal to death, who cares the pathetic tempest dps (and a few corruptor will take them down efficiently anyways)? If the tempest use perfectly their range, the will die last, but they will die after the rest of the army got decimated (because infestor-blord not just win a battle, they rape).
Chicken gank op
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25372 Posts
November 08 2012 07:42 GMT
#457
On November 08 2012 16:38 Belha wrote:
Let's see...

Infestor ball moving foward.

P army with Tempest:

a) Pull back (while shooting with the Tempest)

b) Stay and fight (and die)

c) Pull back

With tempest shooting speed, you can take at the most, 3 infestor or 3 bl (at most)
But eventually you have to engage. In a battle, Tempest suck, beacuse of the low dps. Z just have to move the ball, drops the infested rines as always, chain fungal to death, who cares the pathetic tempest dps (and a few corruptor will take them down efficiently anyways)? If the tempest use perfectly their range, the will die last, but they will die after the rest of the army got decimated (because infestor-blord not just win a battle, they rape).

FirebatHero got really late blink, pretty late collosus and, from the outside looking in went into tempest production way too early.

I think the way to play HoTS will be something akin to HerO, pretty standard early/midgame as we see now, into warp prisms denying expands and killing drones, while securing a 4th or a 5th, and THEN start building Tempests. HerO's way is the best way to play a macro PvZ, but he's run into a brick wall when it comes to actually killing the Z lategame army.

However, if you do all that economic damage, and you are able to chip away at that ball, sniping infestors especially, you'll wear it down and, I believe be able to kill it.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Insoleet
Profile Joined May 2012
France1806 Posts
November 08 2012 07:58 GMT
#458
Tempests are not hardcounter to BL/Infestors. They are just very good at forcing fights and sniping units when the zerg is camping until 3 3 + spine forest.
But if the zerg attack earlier, it's the same as nowadays. Blink, archon, colossus...
Goldfish
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
2230 Posts
November 08 2012 07:59 GMT
#459
On November 08 2012 15:44 ZeromuS wrote:
Does anyone have a link to that vacuum commercial? It was absolutely epic.

Here's one I found (the account also has like 5 other videos regarding the vacuum):
https://connect.microsoft.com/WindowsServerFeedback/feedback/details/741495/biggest-explorer-annoyance-automatic-sorting-windows-7-server-2008-r2-and-vista#details Allow Disable Auto Arrange in Windows 7+
Highways
Profile Joined July 2005
Australia6103 Posts
November 08 2012 08:07 GMT
#460
Are there Vod's for the HotS matches?
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