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Wrathsc2
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2025 Posts
October 20 2012 06:52 GMT
#1161
On October 20 2012 15:52 Dudasc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:51 Femari wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:50 Dudasc wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:47 FakeDeath wrote:
People forget MVP hellions killed freaking 22 drones.

Most zergs just lose outright.
Life made a sick comeback.


22 Drones is not that muc when you have a fast 3rd hatch and Terran can't opt for any other aggression later on in the game because they are going mech. After infestors are out it's exceptionally difficult for anymore harass when playing mech, only when Zerg is trying to be aggressive (or if you are able to get medivac drops in somehow).


It actually is quite a lot... I cant think of any other zerg coming back like life did

You don't watch a lot of SC2 possibly?


dude it was so early! It is a lot


no it wasnt zergs always lose that many drones TT
A marine walks into a bar and asks, "Wheres the counter?"
Bair
Profile Joined May 2010
United States698 Posts
October 20 2012 06:52 GMT
#1162
On October 20 2012 15:50 massmurder414 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:47 FakeDeath wrote:
People forget MVP hellions killed freaking 22 drones.

Most zergs just lose outright.
Life made a sick comeback.


22 Drones is not that muc when you have a fast 3rd hatch and Terran can't opt for any other aggression because they are going mech. After infestors are out it's exceptionally difficult for anymore harass when playing mech, only when Zerg is trying to be aggressive (or if you are able to get medivac drops in somehow).



Yeah but MVP also got a third up, they were on equal bases. MVP should of been able to win that game if he just played it better.


I think the problem is that at that point a fair number of infestors survived the fight while not much of MVP's army survived. Mining the same, but did not lose the same in their engagement.
In Roaches I Rust.
MacroCheese
Profile Joined October 2012
34 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 06:53:18
October 20 2012 06:52 GMT
#1163
On October 20 2012 15:52 Govou wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:49 Dudasc wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:48 Govou wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:46 Juggernaut477 wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:46 Govou wrote:
Terran anti air needs to be addressed



I know right,I can't believe his tank army lost to Brood Lords.


what should he do? build raven thors? so zerglin + infestor can just overwhelm them? build vikings? dont make me laugh


build vikings/starport earlier and more thors

he probably thought life would remax on roaches or something cuz he saw quite a few of them, if you cant see that youre just a crying bad terran


building vikings against corrupter is a terrible choice unless you are so far ahead.

Its only bad if you only have 1 starport which is what mvp did wrong, mvp was dependent on a starport with reactor to compete with a zergs production. Bad move, bad mistake, resulting in a lost
askmc70
Profile Joined March 2012
United States722 Posts
October 20 2012 06:52 GMT
#1164
we're trending on twitter!!
Sea_Food
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Finland1612 Posts
October 20 2012 06:52 GMT
#1165
On October 20 2012 15:50 enemy2010 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:49 pivor wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:47 FakeDeath wrote:
People forget MVP hellions killed freaking 22 drones.

Most zergs just lose outright.
Life made a sick comeback.

22 drones is sick comeback? vortix lost 100 and still won, 22 is like another day in the office.

22 is really not that much, esp. for zerg.

Sorry bro :/

3 hatcheries with inject make an average of 30larva (drones) per ingame minute.
massmurder414
Profile Joined January 2011
United States186 Posts
October 20 2012 06:52 GMT
#1166
Yeah MvP did go pretty tank heavy, i wonder why he didnt add in more thors into his gameplay, plus he should of gotten some of those banshees or ravens, i guess it was because he couldnt handle the aggression that Life was throwing at him.
YukiNoHana
Profile Joined September 2012
Norway23 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1167
Hey i want to buy the finals.. ONLY finals not the whole season.. I will happily pay 10 bucks. Is this possible or is Gom.tv stil in the stoneage? Thanks. Provide link please.
JJH777
Profile Joined January 2011
United States4420 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1168
22 drones really isn't that much for how many helions MVP made. He had like 15 helions with blue-flame. That is a gigantic investment. 22 drones puts him only slightly ahead.
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97277 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1169
On October 20 2012 15:52 MooMu wrote:
SlayerS_MMA?

They don't disband until after their GSTL match so they are still a team atm
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liberate71
Profile Joined October 2011
Australia10252 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1170
On October 20 2012 15:52 SolidMoose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:50 Dudasc wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:47 FakeDeath wrote:
People forget MVP hellions killed freaking 22 drones.

Most zergs just lose outright.
Life made a sick comeback.


22 Drones is not that muc when you have a fast 3rd hatch and Terran can't opt for any other aggression later on in the game because they are going mech. After infestors are out it's exceptionally difficult for anymore harass when playing mech, only when Zerg is trying to be aggressive (or if you are able to get medivac drops in somehow).


It actually is quite a lot... I cant think of any other zerg coming back like life did


No, it's really not. I remember many games of Nestea losing like 50 drones. He just remakes them lol


Yeah being on 80 drones in 9 minutes, with like 43 drones lost or something hahah.
Minelord Stimfestor, also known as karma.
Laryleprakon
Profile Joined May 2011
New Zealand9496 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1171
Life delaying Mvps first push was very nicely done, gave him time for his Blords and Mvp was to far behind after that imo.

Making tanks vs blords doesn't help wither

Gogo Mvp
ardi
Profile Joined February 2012
United States187 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1172
Life is good.
Doors block the thrust of life!!!!
Spiner
Profile Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1173
On October 20 2012 15:49 Zzoram wrote:
MVP needed ghosts to EMP those infestors

Also more than 2 starports


Infestors are too fat to emp.

Ghosts require a good economy, especially when you are already using the gas for mech.

He should have went more thor/banshee style, but I guess he expected mass roach out of life bc he probably assumed life didn't have a good enough economy to make the brood lord switch.
Madera
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden2672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 06:55:55
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1174
On October 20 2012 15:47 iEchoic wrote:
Everyone is saying MVP made a mistake by overproducing tanks instead of vikings. How do you propose that he know that Life's larva is spawning corruptors and not roaches? Had he produced a bunch of vikings and Life went mass roach that would end equally badly.

He scanned the hive so he obviously knows the timing of the brood lords. There's no reason why he should commit on Life's fourth after getting delayed by his counters and the fifth hatchery. If MVP falls back after taking out Life's fifth, roaches would be dead weight and he would've secured more time to get his extra starports up.
DoSu
Profile Joined May 2011
Spain54 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1175
Song name som1 please?
Nothing
Serinox
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany5224 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-20 06:53:37
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1176
On October 20 2012 15:52 MooMu wrote:
SlayerS_MMA?

Official disbandment is after GSTL match at 3rd November.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1177
Did anyone get a screenshot of the Up/Down groups
"En taro adun, Executor."
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1178
On October 20 2012 15:50 Ghoststrikes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:48 Govou wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:46 Juggernaut477 wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:46 Govou wrote:
Terran anti air needs to be addressed



I know right,I can't believe his tank army lost to Brood Lords.


what should he do? build raven thors? so zerglin + infestor can just overwhelm them? build vikings? dont make me laugh


Okay buddy, you are right, tanks should kill brood lords. In other news, life played awesome!


yes that's what I said. glad you get the message son.

Life did play well though
4tre55
Profile Joined June 2011
Germany330 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1179
On October 20 2012 15:49 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Here's that nifty lil trailer they were referring to


Wow, this is really cool.
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
October 20 2012 06:53 GMT
#1180
U&D looks crazy stacked
you live and you learn
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