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[Code S] Grand Finals 2012 GSL Season 4 - Page 61

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TsGBruzze
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Sweden1190 Posts
October 20 2012 06:55 GMT
#1201
On October 20 2012 15:53 QuanticIllusion wrote:
22 drone kills when you are going mech doesn't actually do much if the zerg is droning as heavily as life was. The point of drone kills is to follow up with a timing where the zerg is caught with their economy low after suffering heavy economic loss, or to force lots of units keeping the zerg's drone count very low. That's why Bio + medivac timing are really strong after a good 10-15 drone roast with the early 4 hellions. That being said, remember MVP lost a ton of hellions for 22 drones, with 3 hatcheries and injects as well as the 4th coming up, life is still in good shape, especially because he had infestor tech which slows down any timing push (in this scenario it saved him from dying, delaying till broods.
Yes you are right
''you got to yolo things up to win''
LovE-
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1963 Posts
October 20 2012 06:55 GMT
#1202
Sound the alarm! GSL has returned!
LovE.311 (NA) || @LovE_Sc2
YukiNoHana
Profile Joined September 2012
Norway23 Posts
October 20 2012 06:55 GMT
#1203
On October 20 2012 15:53 liberate71 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:53 YukiNoHana wrote:
Hey i want to buy the finals.. ONLY finals not the whole season.. I will happily pay 10 bucks. Is this possible or is Gom.tv stil in the stoneage? Thanks. Provide link please.


The whole season was worth watching, your loss :D


Well i dont have time to watch 9hours of starcraft 2 each day. Also i dont follow the scene that closely. I really wanted to see the finals in HQ thought. All im asking is a 1-tickete for this finals. Not a whole ****** season.
massmurder414
Profile Joined January 2011
United States186 Posts
October 20 2012 06:55 GMT
#1204
On October 20 2012 15:53 Mordiford wrote:
This music is god awful.

I missed the first game, really hoping MVP can win it.


Its that bad compared to most korean streams were they listen to pure K-Pop and blasted it....it gets annoying at some points!
00Visor
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
4337 Posts
October 20 2012 06:55 GMT
#1205
On October 20 2012 15:53 YukiNoHana wrote:
Hey i want to buy the finals.. ONLY finals not the whole season.. I will happily pay 10 bucks. Is this possible or is Gom.tv stil in the stoneage? Thanks. Provide link please.

You have to buy the whole season. 15$ for light version.
You could buy monthly suscription (premium), but its 20$.
eleaf
Profile Joined September 2011
526 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1206
On October 20 2012 15:53 sitromit wrote:
22 Drones that early in the game is a big deal. Life played like a champ.


Zerg played like a champ?

User was warned for this post
babylon
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
8765 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1207
Damn, place looks pretty packed. :D
Govou
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada1072 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1208
On October 20 2012 15:52 MacroCheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:52 Govou wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:49 Dudasc wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:48 Govou wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:46 Juggernaut477 wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:46 Govou wrote:
Terran anti air needs to be addressed



I know right,I can't believe his tank army lost to Brood Lords.


what should he do? build raven thors? so zerglin + infestor can just overwhelm them? build vikings? dont make me laugh


build vikings/starport earlier and more thors

he probably thought life would remax on roaches or something cuz he saw quite a few of them, if you cant see that youre just a crying bad terran


building vikings against corrupter is a terrible choice unless you are so far ahead.

Its only bad if you only have 1 starport which is what mvp did wrong, mvp was dependent on a starport with reactor to compete with a zergs production. Bad move, bad mistake, resulting in a lost


do you think he would have won if he had 2 starport? when zergs have hatchery full of larvea just waiting to be morphed in to corruptors? throw in infestors, vikings are nothing more than a glass cannon late zvt
MacroCheese
Profile Joined October 2012
34 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1209
I hope we see more bio play, I still feel its more efficient to go bio then mech against zerg
Havik_
Profile Joined November 2011
United States5585 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1210
LIFE! LIFE! LIFE! LIFE!


GOOOOOOO!!!
"An opinion is only as good as the evidence that backs it up."- William O'Malley, S.J.
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1211
On October 20 2012 15:54 ImperialTea wrote:
22 drones is "a lot" but then mvp loses 10+ hellions and all the potential infrastructure he'd have from going hellion+banshee+2xarmoury. Especially since BF hellions are worse at map control and denying creep spread then hellion*banshee. Imo Life came out at worst slightly behind

He came out ahead as nothing really decisive happened until BL. Larvae are too cheap, losing 50 lings & 22 drones & still being able to have 70 drones in the end just shows larvae are too cheap. Make inject 3 larvae!
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
RaiKageRyu
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada4773 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1212
Let me see at least one classic BioTank vs Muta ling Bane game.
Someone call down the Thunder?
tns
Profile Joined June 2011
1054 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1213
On October 20 2012 15:52 Dudasc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:51 Femari wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:50 Dudasc wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:49 SniXSniPe wrote:
On October 20 2012 15:47 FakeDeath wrote:
People forget MVP hellions killed freaking 22 drones.

Most zergs just lose outright.
Life made a sick comeback.


22 Drones is not that muc when you have a fast 3rd hatch and Terran can't opt for any other aggression later on in the game because they are going mech. After infestors are out it's exceptionally difficult for anymore harass when playing mech, only when Zerg is trying to be aggressive (or if you are able to get medivac drops in somehow).


It actually is quite a lot... I cant think of any other zerg coming back like life did

You don't watch a lot of SC2 possibly?


dude it was so early! It is a lot

I think people don't watch enough huge maps hive zergs games... zerg can be a come back race T-T
firebathero miss u♥! http://youtu.be/AXkoG9GnpcM - 1998/11/30 to 2001/05/18 BW stabilized! - WoL v.alpha HotS v.beta LotD v.gamma... summer 2017 SC3 (sc1remastered)
Spiner
Profile Joined February 2011
United States360 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1214
On October 20 2012 15:55 eleaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:52 massmurder414 wrote:
Yeah MvP did go pretty tank heavy, i wonder why he didnt add in more thors into his gameplay, plus he should of gotten some of those banshees or ravens, i guess it was because he couldnt handle the aggression that Life was throwing at him.


if you ever play mech on a high level, you will know the problem of thor and why no pros use mainly thors on mech. There is a reason that all pros use mainly tanks for mech not random decisions.


What are those reasons? Just because?...
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1215
On October 20 2012 15:55 eleaf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2012 15:52 massmurder414 wrote:
Yeah MvP did go pretty tank heavy, i wonder why he didnt add in more thors into his gameplay, plus he should of gotten some of those banshees or ravens, i guess it was because he couldnt handle the aggression that Life was throwing at him.


if you ever play mech on a high level, you will know the problem of thor and why no pros use mainly thors on mech. There is a reason that all pros use mainly tanks for mech not random decisions.

There have been quite a few occasions where thor heavy compositions have happened.
massmurder414
Profile Joined January 2011
United States186 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1216
Hope MvP goes for a bio play! GOGOGO Drops!
silent_owl
Profile Joined March 2011
Philippines3098 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1217
I hate Entombed Valley.:l
"If you know your enemy and yourself, you need not fear the results of a hundred battles." - Sun Tzu
goswser
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3548 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1218
I bet MVP goes for a 1 rax expand again.
say you were born into a jungle indian tribe where food was scarce...would you run around from teepee to teepee stealing meat scraps after a day lazying around doing nothing except warming urself by a fire that you didn't even make yourself? -rekrul
Weirdkid
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Singapore2431 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1219
Haha I wonder what happened to the type of moving booths that they used once in the past. The one where the player's booth would move forward after every win, closer and closer to the trophy
"Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest you be like him yourself." - Proverbs 26:4
neggro
Profile Joined August 2012
United States591 Posts
October 20 2012 06:56 GMT
#1220
mvp come on man, fight
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